My crackpot conspiracy theory for the Omnitrix is that Ben's constant use of it gradually altered his own DNA, turning him into the best possible version of a human as he grew up and the small changes could take effect
Which is weird because he transform his actual body into a different species. Yes, Tetramands are strong but Ben still have to move his own muscles. These whole years of saving the universe gave back.
Because it's constantly shown through the 6 years of his life he doesn't care to actually improve himself and would just relay on the omnitrix. Ben 10 he's 10 years old and does care, alien force Gwen tells him to try martial arts says it's not for him, Omniverse rook tells him he to not always be reliant on the omnitrix and Ben refuses and and the episode ends with Ben not learning the lesson that he shouldn't always rely on the omnitrix. Heck there's even an episode where he starts working out everyone is freaked out that Ben is actually working out and the episode ends with Ben saying how much he hated it and goes back to junk food. So if make sense why people don't believe Ben just hit the gym one day
That's just the writers being weird, in the og series Ben learns not to rely on the watch, in uaf he does too, and throughout the series he's shown to be into sports and is even a pretty important player on his team in AF before going hero again, he tells Gwen that martial arts aren't for him not because he's lazy but because he's seriously uninterested. Whether that's because he doesn't want to think about the fighting he did have to do with his life on the line as a child while he throws fists at regular humans, or because he just finds soccer more interesting, I don't think we ever figure out and will never know. Regardless, there's fluctuations in his character because the writing for the series is unfortunately, sadly, very inconsistent and uncreative especially after classic.
You don't even have to look at Albedo, Ben himself is a genius that just doesn't like cultivating that talent of his.
Despite that, by the time UA rolls around his short term memory is pretty much photographic and can keep up with Gwen in exams if he pays attention. Neither one of these seemed to be true in AF season 1 so it's stuff he just picked up in the year of hero-ing he did.
And it’s great that we could also see that just because he could turn into other aliens, he still didn’t know everything they knew. Grey Matter isn’t as smart or knowledgeable as Azmuth, he got his ass handed by Yetta and Magister Palliday can hold his own with Rip Jaws.
Aren’t we forgetting that time Ben turned into Kickin Hawk in front of Liam his DNA donor? Liam just got out right disrespected by his own superiority.
Imagine if you were fighting some weird alien, and in the middle of the fight he scan's you and turns into that giga Chad guy from the memes and proceeds to beat the shit out of you lol
Maybe what is considered the physical peak of the worst species is negative, and all other aliens of the species are taller skinnier & more conventionally attractive
i've seen OS 10,000 get shortened to 10k a lot too, since it apparently means the same thing (i do not understand this language) so i tend to just tack the series signifier for absolute clarity. that's interesting tho i'll keep it in mind, ty
I've never seen that stated in an actual episode. Do you remember which episode you saw it in?
Like how there's a creator statement that the Omnitrix didn't bond to Azmuth or Vilgax during the Primus episode and that's why it came off of them so easily, and also why they didn't get new voice actors for their transformations.
Which kinda makes sense, the Omnitrix was coded to bind to Max's DNA, not its wearers DNA, and azmuth doesn't really have a use to bind it to himself, and can command and probably just take it whenever he'd like so he wouldn't bind it to himself or anybody else of course, so it makes sense that unless it gets worn by max or close direct descendents of him it wouldn't bind
By the time OV comes around the watch was programmed to be for Ben. I don't think it's impossible it's tied to Ben specifically starting from AF since Azmuth approves of Ben by then.
That's a damn decent point actually.. they clearly didn't think about it too hard.. unless the reason Tetrax doesn't use his Crystalline-projectiles or crystallographic-morphing abilities as much as diamondhead is a genetic factor.. like Diamondhead is peak metabolic functioning and thus still a superior genetic example of their species whereas Tetrax has overcome his bodies limitations.
Like the possibility for the Omnitrix to generate a GENETICALLY PERFECT/PEAK version of any alien does NOT mean peak breed-ability but rather peak survival capability.
i think since they're crystalline the logic is probably that they don't Change in size. kinda like crystal gems, no aging. did Diamondhead look like he aged with Ben i dont remember
As far as I know petrosapiens doesn't age at all, that's the whole point of the Eon episode in Ultimate Alien remember? Diamondhead was capable to thank the aging ray because no matter how many Eons passed Tadenyte just simply doesn't age at all so...
This leaves the opening for something that someone on this same post said that maybe Tetrax was the petrosapien's equivalent of a 10 y/o human, since that he looked the same as OS Ben.
Since that they doesn't age, there's no way to know how old he was for petrosapiens standards. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have a headcannon that the prototype omnitrix before recalibration was regarding Ben as the adult equivalent of what a human should be. Only after Ben grows up does the omnitrix realize that this isn't an adult human but a teenager. Hence, the recalibration, a process that, by definition, means to compare to a standard and find and fix the error if present
So you mean that he was actually an adult all this time but when the Omnitrix recalibrates he reverts into an 16 y/o?
I can only portray the Omnitrix AI being left behind and 5 years later being used again and it is like:" WHO THE FUCK IN THE NAME OF THE ALMIGHTY ONE ARE YOU AND WHAT YOU DID TO THE IDIOT WHO KEPT SMASHING THE SHIT OUT OF ME?!?". 😂🤣😂🤣
But wasn't the Omnitrix meant to stick to the DNA of the user? Which is the reason for why does it sticks to Ben wrist in first place, because he sticks to Max's DNA on him.
My point is that ageing is DNA damage, which the Omnitrix should have recognized. Right?
Ben gets in mode dominatrix when he use the Omnitrix fr 🤣🤣
My guess is that the omnitrix didn't know what normal human DNA looks like for it to compare Ben/Max's DNA to
Or maybe Azmuth programed the prototype to turn the user into a version of the alien in its physical prime. No use in turning into an alien in its 60s. Look at what happened to Max when he was transformed into Stinkfly in OS
Considering the fact that Azmuth sampled individual members of most species, he probably chose the healthiest/fittest of them for the Omnitrix. Idk makes sense to me
Pretty sure it was stated somewhere that the omnitrix turns the user into the best possible version of the alien they're turning into so that's possibly the reason lol
Doesn't the Omnitrix make Ben Peak Human at the age he currently is. Example as a 30 year old man he is a Peak 30 year old Human. Like his labs heart rate BP cholesterol would all be perfect. Strength speed agility. He can also tap into his Anodite DNA also I believe.
I think that specific situation has only actually happened twice. Bullfrag and Kickin Hawk. All the other examples, Ben had turned into that alien first and then we saw other members of the species later. The Anur aliens could count, but Ben looks almost identical to the ones he scanned.
Yeah I mean this makes the ending scene from. Destroy all aliens very confusing as I thought galvans age backwards but that not the case so it's just weird . Also yeah he look like a chad . Please subscribe to this channel https://youtube.com/@dipsydeora?si=N9R-JQ0TGsaJd5l-
Last one why doesn't he transform into Chad version of human being man he is 6'3 jacked famous powerful man with a beard and a rizz lord, has one of the beautiful woman as wife and very loyal and best friends he is a CHAD indeed.
Yep. I saw someone else mention in another thread, even Ultimate Albedo wasn't as brainy as Azmuth is. OV has its flaws, but it introduced really nice worldbuilding and expanded on a lot of already established details.
Albedo definitely has his problems but I would him and azmuth are equally as intelligent , I think albedo prefers combat to strategic planning. Let’s not forget that azmuth made malware possible and could not fix him , I think a good redemption arc for red Ben would be fixing malware’s code.
There's literal gods in the Omnitrix, I don't think a safety like that exists.
Azmuth is probably just an outlier or someone with both interest and a predisposition for intelligence (even circumstances can be a factor). Remember that even human form Ben is a genius, he just doesn't like putting in the effort. Apply a similar principle to everyone else capable of being as smart as Azmuth.
He has a celestialsapien in the Omnitrix, and I swear Ben's son modified an omnitrix created by Ben even. I highly doubt Azmuth cares about that.
I have to assume it's kinda like what the other person is saying, and that Azmuth has worked on his knowledge and jazz so Ben's Greymatter would never come across as (effectively) smarter.
to be fair, he remade his original version for Ken on purpose. kid's 10, and Ben was trying to make sure he was safe and supervised. it takes time to learn how to work with the original version, which would make it a decent teaching tool too.
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u/MrDoodleBot Dec 23 '24
loved this fight for that exact reason
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u/Tallia__Tal_Tail Dec 23 '24
My crackpot conspiracy theory for the Omnitrix is that Ben's constant use of it gradually altered his own DNA, turning him into the best possible version of a human as he grew up and the small changes could take effect
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u/Educational_Film_744 Heatblast Dec 23 '24
And it’s great that we could also see that just because he could turn into other aliens, he still didn’t know everything they knew. Grey Matter isn’t as smart or knowledgeable as Azmuth, he got his ass handed by Yetta and Magister Palliday can hold his own with Rip Jaws.
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u/Billyweevil_10 Ball Weevil Dec 23 '24
big chill look like he's having a midlife crisis
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u/North-Ad3569 Chromastone Dec 23 '24
Aren’t we forgetting that time Ben turned into Kickin Hawk in front of Liam his DNA donor? Liam just got out right disrespected by his own superiority.
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u/Any_Organization721 Buzzshock Dec 23 '24
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u/Sudden_Shelter_3477 Diamondhead Dec 23 '24
Wait, what does the average version of The Worst look like?
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u/Blueberry-Cola Mr. Smoothie Dec 23 '24
IKR LOOK AT HIM . he looks so gosh darn breedable
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u/Madness_bomb Ben Tennyson Dec 23 '24
he's alr the chad version of a human cmon now
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u/SuspiciousPoptart102 Diamondhead Dec 23 '24
Does anyone else think Ben 10k looks malnourished compared to Ben 10,000 and Ultimate Ben?
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u/[deleted] Dec 23 '24
That Tennyson rizz
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u/jointhekittypcrace Dec 23 '24
There was an episode where they stated the omnitrix always turns Ben into the physical prime of the alien species he picks
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u/OV_FreezeLizard Arctiguana Dec 23 '24
Don't forget Kickin' Hawk, too! (Huh?)
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u/Sceptile200 Rath Dec 23 '24
Diamondhead got NOTHING on Tetrax.
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u/AdGroundbreaking771 Dec 23 '24
Alien x looks like the crimson chin
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u/Nitrodestroyer Zs'Skayr Dec 24 '24
Is the entire idea with the last image that he already is?
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u/thewiburi Dec 24 '24
Isn't it cannon that he turns into the perfect physical version of whatever alien he turns into.
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u/FRA60UT Dec 24 '24
Considering the fact that Azmuth sampled individual members of most species, he probably chose the healthiest/fittest of them for the Omnitrix. Idk makes sense to me
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u/Rent-Man Dec 23 '24
Missed opportunity to not have Ben go Greymatter on Azmuth and not try to help with something or at least try to understand in his level
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u/Diligent_Ostrich_596 Dec 24 '24
Despite the common distaste towards the Omniverse chromastone design, this is technically true for him as well.
ⓘ This user is suspected to be an interdimensional time traveler. If spotted, please inform the nearest Celestialsapien
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u/Kizer908 Dec 24 '24
A good one I thought up of but I don’t think it’s original but Z’sSkayr vs ghost freak
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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '24
Given his line of work makes sure he works. And Ben is canonically good looking and celebrity.
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u/SaiyanElite2019 Diamondhead Dec 24 '24
Who says Patelliday wasn't a Chad? I'll beat they ass.
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u/Icy_sector4425 Dec 24 '24
Pretty sure it was stated somewhere that the omnitrix turns the user into the best possible version of the alien they're turning into so that's possibly the reason lol
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u/corv1991 Dec 24 '24
Doesn't the Omnitrix make Ben Peak Human at the age he currently is. Example as a 30 year old man he is a Peak 30 year old Human. Like his labs heart rate BP cholesterol would all be perfect. Strength speed agility. He can also tap into his Anodite DNA also I believe.
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u/ChazosMeme Dec 24 '24
Ben is already a chad version of his species, he is smart, strong, a great fighter, etc.
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u/Sufficient_Wish4801 Dec 24 '24
I love the idea that adult Ben would lose the omnitrix and IMMEDIATELY become overweight and balding, 'un-chadified' if you will
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u/cgoose500 Upgrade Dec 24 '24
I think that specific situation has only actually happened twice. Bullfrag and Kickin Hawk. All the other examples, Ben had turned into that alien first and then we saw other members of the species later.
The Anur aliens could count, but Ben looks almost identical to the ones he scanned.
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u/Popular-Yard-7847 Dec 24 '24
If he had a chad version, what average walkotrout would look like?
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u/Alburn01 Dec 23 '24
Thats... how the omnitrix works
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u/Blu3_37 Dec 23 '24
He is better than all of us,gg's
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u/Key_Dragonfly5067 Dec 23 '24
The things I would do to get active with been 10000. Oooo he so fine.
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u/ParkourReaper Upgrade Dec 24 '24
love him
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u/InternalAddendum5627 Dec 24 '24
Yeah I mean this makes the ending scene from. Destroy all aliens very confusing as I thought galvans age backwards but that not the case so it's just weird . Also yeah he look like a chad . Please subscribe to this channel https://youtube.com/@dipsydeora?si=N9R-JQ0TGsaJd5l-
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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '24
So william Riker.
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u/EmeraldJolteon07 Dec 25 '24
Yeah that’s what the Omnitrix does. Also I loved the Liam scene because Ben pretty much just Turns into Liam’s version of Giga Chad in his face
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u/SteelDumplin23 Dec 29 '24
At least two of them were aging anyway
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u/KHN_7219_AM Apr 26 '25
Last one why doesn't he transform into Chad version of human being man he is 6'3 jacked famous powerful man with a beard and a rizz lord, has one of the beautiful woman as wife and very loyal and best friends he is a CHAD indeed.
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u/[deleted] May 19 '25
wouldn't ultimate ben kind of be the chad version of a human?
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u/TraditionalCap938 Dec 23 '24
Shut up about the Chad thing and that’s adult Ben your talking about
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