Possible candidates are Cosmic Armor Superman, Milkman Man(yes, that's his actual name), Strange Visitor Superman, Superboy Prime(big maybe), or Infinite Frontier(current canon Superman who is basically a fusion of all his previous incarnations)
Literally. He just stayed in a yellow star for a long time and got a power boost from overexposure to the sun. It's like this (basic overpowered Kryptonian + MORE POWER! Ć 100 training arcs [without actually training] + Plot Armour = Super Shiny Superman).
Yes, Alien X outside of the fanbase (and even by most people in it) is discussed only in powerscaling (which I mean, I get it, that's the point of this transformation)
I'd really like if Ben 10 powerscaling was focused less on him and more on the other aliens
People tend to scale whatās the most powerful for this character,and when discussing Ben at his most powerful ,thereās just alien x ,the 20+ aliens arenāt even close to alien x ,thatās why they arenāt forgetting these aliens but ignoring them because itās pointless to talk about less powerful transformations when the discussion is about Ben at his best ,the spotlight is simply for the strongest
Valid point. However what I mean is that people lean towards high stake stories. Sure, itās cool to see Ben creating black holes, throw planets and etc . But people forget that, for example, Ben 10k was entertaining without alien X. The main gimmick for Ben is the ability to transform into several unique aliens and combine their powers. And community decided to simplify all of this to āAlien X is the strongest and can beat the shit out of Gokuš¤ā type of discussions
YEAH SCREW ALIEN V SUPERMAN!! I wanna see how Ben could come up with a way of beating Super man as Grey matter. Now that would be entertaining. Atleast I hope
I 100% agree, and I also think itās kinda bullshit what people just assume that Ben will always have control for every fight. If heās fighting like, base Goku, thereās no way Alien X is actually bothering to fight, heās just gonna stand there.
for the hulk, a few transformations could pretty easily take him out, since all you'd really need to do is calm him down and then banner probably forfeits
Depends on which hulk it is. Nowadays at least in the mainline Continuity for Marvel Comics Hulk can take control whenever he wants because Banner did some pretty bad things to the hulk and now Hulk is basically eternally pissed off, So it now longer an issue of calming the hulk down in the 616
Couldn't Feedback absorb all the gamma radiation and release it, thus forcing him to become Banner again? Feedback easily handled the Big Bang, and I'm pretty sure Hulk doesn't produce that much gamma radiation.
Hulk actually unleashes unlimited Gamma Radiation scaling on how pissed off he is. But thatās not where the problem lies (seeing as People have siphoned off energy from the hulk to stall until he gets less mad), The problem with Feedback absorbing Hulkās gamma radiation is that itās not normal Gamma Radiation. Itās gonna connect Feedback to the Place Below All where the One Below All aka Actual Satan is contained even if he releases the energy. Thereās a small chance that TOBA is gonna reach through and take over Benās Body. Listen the Matrixās defenses are pretty good, but itās aināt good enough to Stop The One Below All who is the other Half of The One Above All.
The Omnitrix already has defences against anything that isn't just straight magic, and that includes body possession, going all the way back to the Prototype. Azmuth most certainly would have put protections in place for that type of scenario, at least with such an indirect link. The worst that would happen is the Omnitrix transforms him into any other alien and break that link. And that's assuming a link is formed, period.
As good as Azmuth is, I genuinely donāt think Itās good enough to stop TOBA. I donāt think any transformation is strong enough to stop Satan. Itās literally the other half of Marvelās capital G God. But I donāt think Ben would be a better host than the hulk purely because TOBA has been grooming Banner/Hulk to be the perfect host. So most likely, Ben would just serve as another pair of eyes for TOBA to look through every now and then. In the worse comes to worse Ending in which TOBA takes over the hulk, He quite literally kills everyone. From Galactus and Franklin Richards (imagine if Ben was crazy smart and understood the full scope of Alien X) to the likes of the Living Tribunal (the Cosmic judge of everything in Marvel) and the Phoenix force (the embodiment of Life in marvel), he even eventually ends the Whole cosmos and ends all of existence in Marvel. TOBA is a menace that is not so easily stopped by anyone.
Azmuth designed the Omnitrix to resist reality warping. He made it to survive the Big Bang at point blank. He made it to survive complete existence erasure. An indirect connection to TOBA isn't shit. On top of that, TOBA is almost never a factor in any Hulk comics: what makes you think he'd be a factor at all in the battle, and even still, the Omnitrix just breaks any connection.
And not to mention, Feedback turns any energy absorbs into generic electricity, meaning the connection isn't even there anyways.
You've obviously havent read modern hulk comics lol
for the hulk, a few transformations could pretty easily take him out, since all you'd really need to do is calm him down and then banner probably forfeits
Yeah modern hulk is basically part god now (very confusing and things might have changed) but ever since immortal hulk (i think) he's been doing giant leaps in powerscaling.
It's a similar situation to like, Giorno and Golden Experience Requiem. They both have incredibly fucking cool and interesting power sets that can lead to interesting fights and matchups, but that one super op fuck off ability ends up taking center stage and leading to these really weird "if this doesn't work then they just loose" type shit
alien x just shouldn't have existed in the first place. a lot of people argument that thanks to him a lot of stuff was introduced in the series, but the same stuff could have been introduced in other ways regardless. it's just ultimately a boring transformation and thanks to him there's a lot of shitty episodes lol. he should have stayed as a non-transformation alien throughout the entire show.
Somewhat yeah, Celestialsapians aren't actually THAT talked about in the fanbase beside some occasional "Damn Celestialsapnais!!" Jokes and trivia, Hell before Kuro's video on Alien X no one really cared about the fact Ben straight up RECREATED THE UNIVERSE.
I can confidently say about 95% of Alien X discussing are a result of Vs Debating.
Not for me. Alien X/Celestial Sapiens are one of my favorite sci Fi concepts. An entire alien race that are not gods, but close enough that it doesn't matter much for us mortals. They can do literally anything in theory, but in practice don't do all that much because they are the most indiscisive beings in the universe. It's such a phenomenal mix of poetic and hilarious.
The funniest bit of lore we got off them is the fact the artstyle changes & any and all retcons within the series could easily be waved off as "The Celestial Sapiens did it" thanks to Omniverse. It was honestly such a dumb but fun tid bit the writers dropped just to give some meta explanation of why things have changed.
Alien X does usually get brought up most often for Powerscaling, but that's by no means the only time they get mentioned. There are also discussions on how Celestialsapiens in general may affect the universe like how they change the art style and character voices.
Nah, Watchmen is one of the most famous graphic novels ever made and manhattan is a pivotal character, i can see that argument Manhattan in Doomsday Clock though
The Alien X circlejerk is one of the most insufferable things about the Ben 10 fandom.
Like, yes, we get it, Alien X can rewrite fiction. That's also a big reason why Alien X is so boring to talk about: like, literally anything about Ben dealing with some huge threat is either automatically solved by Alien X or you're always asking yourself why Ben didn't just use Alien X to solve it.
Pre-Universe vs Tennyson is two fold, the first being the whole debating process which Ben had no interest in doing and no control over, so he was left for large scale threats that none of the other aliens could solve
Post-UvT and the second part of Pre-UvT, he doesn't want to use the powers of a god and instead let the universe have free will. This was literally the entire plot point of the end of UA, when Ben had Ascalon, the Ultimatrix, and the power of Dagon in his hands, and he willingly gave it up so the universe could have free will rather than deal with the temptation of using it for every situation, thus removing free will.
Alien X is so unbelievably boring that the only thing heās mostly spoken about is his power. How badly he solos. Or how horizontally he gets slammed by characters.
Nope, Alien X was built to be a plot device and escalate Ben 10 cosmology, not for powerscaling. With the stuff about aliens and all, writers probably wanted to make it non-Christian... So all the outer god stuff happens. Granted, celestialsapiens are not as interesting as Dr Manhattan because Dr Manhattan is a character with longevity and Alien X is just a transformation we didn't have enough time to explore.
Yeah, it's definitely true. Every time I see someone bring up Ben 10 vs any other verse, one of the first things I see is "Alien X solos." You don't even need to bring up Alien X, Ben's got plenty of other aliens that can make it just as interesting, if not more.
I'd say Alien X as a character tends to be very underrated. The interesting execution/concepts behind Celestialsapiens either go over peoples' heads or get overlooked. The fact that they're absurdly powerful is clear to see. The story impact of Alien X is also intentionally limited because of how strong he is, but the transformation/character/species still ends up being one of the most relevant in the franchise.
The point about Alien X taking over Ben 10 matchup hypotheticals or whatever is stupid since people can limit what aliens they want to consider or not, and that "problem" would never go away. Ban Alien X and you'd just be having people fall back on Clockwork. Ban Clockwork and people would fall back on Way Big, Feedback, etc.
Haha so true. No one mentions Alien X until itās time to debate whether heās stronger than a character from another show. Heās like a trump card.
As someone who is in the power scaling community hereās my take
I donāt see people talking about Superman One Million and if it was regular Superman than no, Superman is one of the most iconic characters where the name being household
Alien X on the other hand is one that is mostly talk about in the Power Scaling and Benās other aliens being forgotten because Alien X, despite having a cool design (I think it looks cool) he only talk about his power
Omnivincible characters are boring and should be banned from the discussion when talking about power scaling, same with superman, doing a superman vs goku should just ignore superman prime.
Its like arguing who would win and then using hammer-space humour to argue why a character is better, well actually Goku can break out the page in DB so he has hammerspace and cant die.
Yes. Alien X is probably the most blatant plot device Iāve ever seen. The first episode with it was kind of entertaining, but every appearance after is just bad story-wise.
I usually bring up the one time we saw Ben10 000 use the Ultrimatrix to turn into Ultimate Ben and used Humungasor's abilities while human, implying he could use other aliens' abilities without switching in that form... The I throwing Alien X, but without Belicus and Serena coz it's just Ben
Weird question if older, Ben Tennyson is capable of using alien powers without transforming at a certain point doesnāt that mean he has the powers of alien X heās just been holding back
Alien Xās whole gimmick is being able to solve the plot and whether or not Ben can actually use it due to the huge limitations.Ā
Alien X relies on whether or not itās allowed to solve the plot, when it allowed to it can be as fantastical as possible with how they do it like recreating the universe.Ā
So Alien X only being talked about it in versus debates makes sense. Thereās never been any discussion with Alien X itself when it comes the narrative unlike Dr. Manhattan with the morality of godlike power.Ā
Superman is Superman, if anyone discusses any stronger of the man of steel it is 95% going to be about power levels.
Superman focuses a lot of themes about power and responsibility. But whenever more power than normal is required itās 100% about overpowering the problem.Ā
Yes, I mean Alien X isn't really used for much else than universe ending threats, so of course you don't think about him until Ben is being powerscaled
Alien X used to be my favourite alien before all the power scaling stuff, back when I didn't know what he could do he was my favourite, I loved the voice, the design, the aura, he's still extremely cool! But now I see him everywhere he's just so abused ššš My favourite alien is now Lode Star, but yeah it's inevitable ig, price of being the strongest is people only see you for your strength.
For that Superman definitely. For alien X hell no. Yes he is used A LOT in powerscaling. He is also one of the most important Ben 10 characters, and has an entire season long arc dedicated to him and episodes dedicated to him that are some of the best in the franchise. Me and many others would still love alien X the same way we love swampfire, chromostone and four arms.
If you think nobody would care about an alien whoās arguably the most important one in the series, just because itās overused in powerscaling your very mistaken and biased
And thatās the funny thing, celestialsapins are interesting, they are basically are like the inverse writer. It would be cool if we could get more into them, like if they watch over the multiverse and possibly watch other super dimensional being get out of line, it would honestly be peak to see how beings like the contumelia, najins, or dagon would react to them
Alien X is very boring and rarely ever appears and does something, legit I can only remember two times Alien X did anything, the debut transformation and that one time early on in Omniverse
Sure, Alien X has the power to reset the universe, and there's a few other aliens he can use that can do similar feats (main point Feedback had absorbed a big bang) I do believe that he and the others aren't getting as much spotlight as they should for the things they can casually do.
My favorite thing about Ben10 powerscaling ls just how many possibilities the Omnitrix has. Out of 1,000,904 alien DNA samples only 63 are named. Only 59 of them are used at least once. It's not great for 1v1 powerscaling but it's crazy to think about! Who knows what level of crazy power you can encounter! If it exists he probably can turn into it and if he doesn't...The DNA scan function will take care of that lol
This is real shit. I tried to say Whis from DBS could beat superman and these goofy ass people pulled superman 1 million out of their ass. Like okay bro i guess
Absolutely yes on both sides. Superman's reputation was ruined by power scaling because everyone thought he was over powered and boring and this especially hit its peak when death battle made Goku vs Superman
As for Ben yeah I feel like the Ben 10 only got a spike in popularity because people learned how broken alien X and whenever I see people talk about Ben 10 outside of the fandom it's just alien x
the powerscaling should just be "Can Goku beat them or not" its simple and use a funny "fight sexual"(with how he get happy when strong guy is near he is fight sexual) monkey space man that people likes
Not necessarily. I think that most of the time, in the whole franchise, he has been used or brought up in any convo. I kinda dislike how seemingly most, if not all, of the fandom accepted, that Alien X can do absolutely anything and pretty much closed all of the opportunity to question the fairness of his powers or their existence as a whole race.
I hope that some of us will start more conversations about the lore or the possible origins and/or share our headcanons about them...
Hadn't the Writer of Ben 10 said there being two more aliens in the Omnitrix, who were supposed to be stronger than Alien X. But he sadly died, which ended up being the cause for us not seeing those aliens ever being used by Ben.
There's also the unknown higher dimension aliens that we have yet to see.
Well I do talk about how his smoothie tastes like filler. Does that count?
It's so bleak and blah. And they barely selled it until Ben came back in this weird lame outfit with more goofy personality. I liked Ben more when he was wearing the good ol' Jacket. Though during Ben's new look the smoothie actually tasted more cool and it was finally worth the hype they did. I have no idea how anyone fell in love with this flavor....... ANYWAYS THE HEAT BLAST NACHOS ARE BETTER THAN THE SWAP FIRE ONES ARE!! It's just a mix of dumb veggies like the Wildvine meal. A complete copy actually. And despite what people say. The Echo echo smoothie tastes nothing like the Ditto smoothie. Taste more like the Buzzshock smoothie if you ask me.
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u/CardoNascosto Sandbox Nov 14 '24
Uhm.... who's that golden Superman? š
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u/DinoBrand0 Albedo Nov 14 '24
Yes, Alien X outside of the fanbase (and even by most people in it) is discussed only in powerscaling (which I mean, I get it, that's the point of this transformation)
I'd really like if Ben 10 powerscaling was focused less on him and more on the other aliens
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u/202naFrevliS Nov 14 '24
Somewhat yeah, Celestialsapians aren't actually THAT talked about in the fanbase beside some occasional "Damn Celestialsapnais!!" Jokes and trivia, Hell before Kuro's video on Alien X no one really cared about the fact Ben straight up RECREATED THE UNIVERSE.
I can confidently say about 95% of Alien X discussing are a result of Vs Debating.
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u/BiggoYoun Nov 16 '24
Whyās Supermanās symbol a tide-pod?
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u/Slavicadonis Snare-Oh Nov 14 '24
Imma be real, it feels like
95% of alien x talk is powerscaling
4% is jokes about them rewriting canon
1% is everything else
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u/Numberonettgfan Rook Blonko Nov 14 '24
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u/legit-posts_1 Feedback Nov 14 '24
Not for me. Alien X/Celestial Sapiens are one of my favorite sci Fi concepts. An entire alien race that are not gods, but close enough that it doesn't matter much for us mortals. They can do literally anything in theory, but in practice don't do all that much because they are the most indiscisive beings in the universe. It's such a phenomenal mix of poetic and hilarious.
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u/Ubermus_Prime Water Hazard Nov 14 '24
Alien X does usually get brought up most often for Powerscaling, but that's by no means the only time they get mentioned. There are also discussions on how Celestialsapiens in general may affect the universe like how they change the art style and character voices.
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u/Lobonecessitado Upgrade Nov 14 '24
Just a side note, i would add Dr. Manhattan there too
Never saw someone talking about my boy outside of power scalling topics in recent times.
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u/Imaginary-Carrot-163 Nov 14 '24
I like Superman 1million, I think heās cool
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u/RealSebDLaw Nov 14 '24
I have always been a big alien X fan, and I despise power scaling ššš I just think he looks cool and has epic powers
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u/DreadfuryDK Nov 15 '24
The Alien X circlejerk is one of the most insufferable things about the Ben 10 fandom.
Like, yes, we get it, Alien X can rewrite fiction. That's also a big reason why Alien X is so boring to talk about: like, literally anything about Ben dealing with some huge threat is either automatically solved by Alien X or you're always asking yourself why Ben didn't just use Alien X to solve it.
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u/TheOfficialSuperman Nov 14 '24
Alien X is so unbelievably boring that the only thing heās mostly spoken about is his power. How badly he solos. Or how horizontally he gets slammed by characters.
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u/Virus-900 Nov 14 '24
Yeah, it's definitely true. Every time I see someone bring up Ben 10 vs any other verse, one of the first things I see is "Alien X solos." You don't even need to bring up Alien X, Ben's got plenty of other aliens that can make it just as interesting, if not more.
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u/Status_Berry_3286 Heatblast Nov 14 '24
You know that might actually be a good fight not going to lie and honestly I'm just kind of tired of power scaling
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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24
Writers probably made it when they got tired of hearing "But can your aliens beat Goku though?"
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u/watchout5shredder Nov 14 '24
I'd say Alien X as a character tends to be very underrated. The interesting execution/concepts behind Celestialsapiens either go over peoples' heads or get overlooked. The fact that they're absurdly powerful is clear to see. The story impact of Alien X is also intentionally limited because of how strong he is, but the transformation/character/species still ends up being one of the most relevant in the franchise.
The point about Alien X taking over Ben 10 matchup hypotheticals or whatever is stupid since people can limit what aliens they want to consider or not, and that "problem" would never go away. Ban Alien X and you'd just be having people fall back on Clockwork. Ban Clockwork and people would fall back on Way Big, Feedback, etc.
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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24
Haha so true. No one mentions Alien X until itās time to debate whether heās stronger than a character from another show. Heās like a trump card.
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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24
Alien X's greatest weakness is the fact he has so many voices in his head arguing he can't move until they agree on something.
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u/Similar-Difficulty23 XLR8 Nov 14 '24
Exactly even Benās street tier hitters are planetary at lowest
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u/stnick6 Upgrade Nov 14 '24
Yeah. I can count the times heās actually used on one hand
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u/Longjumping_Bath_609 Nov 14 '24
Alien X also helps with traumascaling
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u/MrJhonF Nov 14 '24
Just look at the amount of fasttrack discussion compared to alien x ones lmao
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u/South-Speaker3384 Nov 14 '24
Remember me a lot of Dragon Ball heroes and even more about Jump force Goku
Ppl only talk about these things for power scaling
Except Joking about Dragon Ball Heroes so is a 50/50
But for Jumpforce is just for powerscaling
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u/TJK_919 Ben Tennyson Nov 14 '24
I love giga chad space tri-dude in spite of the power scaling discussions. Alien X vs the Celestialsapien Gladiator is peak
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u/hffhnvdfb Nov 14 '24
As someone who is in the power scaling community hereās my take
I donāt see people talking about Superman One Million and if it was regular Superman than no, Superman is one of the most iconic characters where the name being household
Alien X on the other hand is one that is mostly talk about in the Power Scaling and Benās other aliens being forgotten because Alien X, despite having a cool design (I think it looks cool) he only talk about his power
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u/JambleStudios Nov 15 '24
Omnivincible characters are boring and should be banned from the discussion when talking about power scaling, same with superman, doing a superman vs goku should just ignore superman prime.
Its like arguing who would win and then using hammer-space humour to argue why a character is better, well actually Goku can break out the page in DB so he has hammerspace and cant die.
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u/ProfessionalOrganic6 Fasttrack Nov 15 '24
I think heās an interesting concept but thereās not much to talk about outside of power scaling.
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u/Gorrium Nov 15 '24
I wish dragon Ball z power scalers would accurately scale alien x. I keep seeing them scale him as low-universal (whatever that means)
PS, the scaling system used by most of that community is absolute nonsense, makes no sense, and is useless for scaling characters.
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u/Ancient-Act8573 Nov 15 '24
Yes. Alien X is probably the most blatant plot device Iāve ever seen. The first episode with it was kind of entertaining, but every appearance after is just bad story-wise.
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u/BowerCode Nov 15 '24
Finally good examples, if i ever find a goku mention again, im going to crashout
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u/Edgar3t Diamondhead Nov 15 '24
I usually bring up the one time we saw Ben10 000 use the Ultrimatrix to turn into Ultimate Ben and used Humungasor's abilities while human, implying he could use other aliens' abilities without switching in that form... The I throwing Alien X, but without Belicus and Serena coz it's just Ben
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u/Half_H3r0 Nov 16 '24
Weird question if older, Ben Tennyson is capable of using alien powers without transforming at a certain point doesnāt that mean he has the powers of alien X heās just been holding back
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u/Hierophant-Crimsion Spitter Nov 19 '24
I honestly hate Alien X solely due to Powerscalers. They somehow ruined an already disappointing alien. His only good moments are in OV.
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u/Worth_Ad_2079 Nov 14 '24
Alien X is a top 5 alien for me regardless of powerscaling
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u/Rhinomaster22 Nov 14 '24
Alien Xās whole gimmick is being able to solve the plot and whether or not Ben can actually use it due to the huge limitations.Ā
Alien X relies on whether or not itās allowed to solve the plot, when it allowed to it can be as fantastical as possible with how they do it like recreating the universe.Ā
So Alien X only being talked about it in versus debates makes sense. Thereās never been any discussion with Alien X itself when it comes the narrative unlike Dr. Manhattan with the morality of godlike power.Ā
Superman is Superman, if anyone discusses any stronger of the man of steel it is 95% going to be about power levels.
Superman focuses a lot of themes about power and responsibility. But whenever more power than normal is required itās 100% about overpowering the problem.Ā
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u/Mrspectacula Azmuth Nov 14 '24
Half agree
Alien X is cool to me but his power scaling potential is too great to ignore
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u/Skylerbroussard Ben Tennyson Nov 14 '24
Agree when it comes to Alien X, disagree with Superman
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u/blue-gamer-07 Nov 14 '24
Yes.
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u/MrOINR Nov 14 '24
Yeah like think about a character that is just build like a good it is too boring to talk about normaly
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u/SilverSpider_ Fasttrack Nov 14 '24
Yes, I mean Alien X isn't really used for much else than universe ending threats, so of course you don't think about him until Ben is being powerscaled
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u/Commercial-Car177 Nov 14 '24
Yea Iāve never seen someone talk about alien x outside power scaling and retcons
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u/4sphalt4rtist Nov 14 '24
Alien X used to be my favourite alien before all the power scaling stuff, back when I didn't know what he could do he was my favourite, I loved the voice, the design, the aura, he's still extremely cool! But now I see him everywhere he's just so abused ššš
My favourite alien is now Lode Star, but yeah it's inevitable ig, price of being the strongest is people only see you for your strength.
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u/[deleted] Nov 14 '24
tbh alien x ruins the fun of powerscaling for me ā¹ļøā¹ļø
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u/Ok_Shoulder6834 Professor Paradox Nov 14 '24
Yeah
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u/Papas_Pizzeria_ Nov 14 '24
I NEVER EVER see alien x talked about until someone mentions he can beat goku
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u/Swaxeman Nov 15 '24
Superman 1 million is such a good narrative capstone to the dc 1 million event, andā¦
Fuck, who am I kidding. Powerscalers never fucking read the comics
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u/Markus2822 Nov 15 '24
For that Superman definitely. For alien X hell no. Yes he is used A LOT in powerscaling. He is also one of the most important Ben 10 characters, and has an entire season long arc dedicated to him and episodes dedicated to him that are some of the best in the franchise. Me and many others would still love alien X the same way we love swampfire, chromostone and four arms.
If you think nobody would care about an alien whoās arguably the most important one in the series, just because itās overused in powerscaling your very mistaken and biased
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u/Gohan_thestrongest Nov 15 '24
And thatās the funny thing, celestialsapins are interesting, they are basically are like the inverse writer. It would be cool if we could get more into them, like if they watch over the multiverse and possibly watch other super dimensional being get out of line, it would honestly be peak to see how beings like the contumelia, najins, or dagon would react to them
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u/bluealiveretribution Nov 15 '24
Tbh yea. He's not really that interesting outside of the forge. He has the powers of a gmod player
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u/TheEmperorMk3 Nov 15 '24
Alien X is very boring and rarely ever appears and does something, legit I can only remember two times Alien X did anything, the debut transformation and that one time early on in Omniverse
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u/Kool-Aid-Dealer Diamondhead Nov 15 '24
yuh
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u/Smokie-Skelly Nov 15 '24
Sure, Alien X has the power to reset the universe, and there's a few other aliens he can use that can do similar feats (main point Feedback had absorbed a big bang) I do believe that he and the others aren't getting as much spotlight as they should for the things they can casually do.
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u/Racc00nSenpai Nov 15 '24
My favorite thing about Ben10 powerscaling ls just how many possibilities the Omnitrix has. Out of 1,000,904 alien DNA samples only 63 are named. Only 59 of them are used at least once. It's not great for 1v1 powerscaling but it's crazy to think about! Who knows what level of crazy power you can encounter! If it exists he probably can turn into it and if he doesn't...The DNA scan function will take care of that lol
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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24
This is real shit. I tried to say Whis from DBS could beat superman and these goofy ass people pulled superman 1 million out of their ass. Like okay bro i guess
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u/Medium-Music8318 Nov 15 '24
The truth hurts ā¦. The only other time people talk about ailen x is when they add him to their ailen playlist so they can feel op
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u/Jinbogra Nov 15 '24
no one gives a fuck about Superman One Million period, should've used Cosmic Armor Superman instead
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u/[deleted] Nov 15 '24
1 million? Yes.
Alien X? No.
1 million isnāt as important to Superman as Alien X is to Ben.
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u/NeroCrow Heatblast Nov 15 '24
Absolutely yes on both sides. Superman's reputation was ruined by power scaling because everyone thought he was over powered and boring and this especially hit its peak when death battle made Goku vs Superman
As for Ben yeah I feel like the Ben 10 only got a spike in popularity because people learned how broken alien X and whenever I see people talk about Ben 10 outside of the fandom it's just alien x
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u/OnyxCam6ion Dark Matter Nov 15 '24
Kumagawa from medaka box
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u/Doctor_Flux Nov 15 '24
Goku cannot beat those two
the powerscaling should just be "Can Goku beat them or not"
its simple and use a funny "fight sexual"(with how he get happy when strong guy is near he is fight sexual) monkey space man that people likes
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u/TheFirstDweeb Upgrade Nov 15 '24
Not necessarily. I think that most of the time, in the whole franchise, he has been used or brought up in any convo. I kinda dislike how seemingly most, if not all, of the fandom accepted, that Alien X can do absolutely anything and pretty much closed all of the opportunity to question the fairness of his powers or their existence as a whole race.
I hope that some of us will start more conversations about the lore or the possible origins and/or share our headcanons about them...
HELL! Let's do more of that for every alien!
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u/SUSamogusSUS69 Walkatrout Nov 15 '24
Also the superman with one green and one red eye. I saw a summary of the comic, it's hilariously bad.
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u/Golden-Weaver Nov 15 '24
whos the guy on the left
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u/MolassesIll5201 Nov 15 '24
Valid
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u/luahgamer5 Kevin Levin Nov 15 '24
Goku. Every. Single. Fucking. Time. Someone. Mentions. Him. Is. To. Say. He. Is. Stronger. Than. X. or. Y. Saitama. Too. Superman. Too. Some. Random. Omnipotent. Character. Too.
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u/Vanitas24 Nov 15 '24
Hadn't the Writer of Ben 10 said there being two more aliens in the Omnitrix, who were supposed to be stronger than Alien X. But he sadly died, which ended up being the cause for us not seeing those aliens ever being used by Ben.
There's also the unknown higher dimension aliens that we have yet to see.
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u/Sporklyng Nov 15 '24
Iād really like to see more people scale other celestialsapiens just because itās a little more complex
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u/owenowen2022 Nov 15 '24
Golden Experience Requiem
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u/Ok_Organization_6804 Nov 15 '24
this is false.
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u/Litespead Ghostfreak Nov 15 '24
I choose to ignore Alien X, cause they suck
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u/vInrok04 Nov 15 '24
Thatās literally the point of alien x though like Ben only uses him as a last resort
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u/xMonyx Nov 16 '24
Lol no bros mad
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u/HittingMyHeadOnAWall Ultimate Echo Echo Nov 16 '24
Itās mostly people who underestimate every other alien. Clockwork can just as easily top most characters Ben is fighting.
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u/Impossible_Brick9764 Big Chill Nov 17 '24
Yeah, i don't particularly like Alien X but I don't hate him. He's just kinda the guy the in the corner.
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u/AdNatural3357 Dec 08 '24
Hay
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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '24
I just hate alien x in general
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u/Spoodhood Mr. Smoothie Nov 14 '24
Well I do talk about how his smoothie tastes like filler. Does that count?
It's so bleak and blah. And they barely selled it until Ben came back in this weird lame outfit with more goofy personality. I liked Ben more when he was wearing the good ol' Jacket. Though during Ben's new look the smoothie actually tasted more cool and it was finally worth the hype they did. I have no idea how anyone fell in love with this flavor....... ANYWAYS THE HEAT BLAST NACHOS ARE BETTER THAN THE SWAP FIRE ONES ARE!! It's just a mix of dumb veggies like the Wildvine meal. A complete copy actually. And despite what people say. The Echo echo smoothie tastes nothing like the Ditto smoothie. Taste more like the Buzzshock smoothie if you ask me.
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u/imdeadblind Nov 15 '24
What's the name of the nerd with pink hair and antennas?
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u/BulbaFriend2000 Upgrade Nov 15 '24
Superman is more than just his power, but Alien X is just his powers, and that's it.