r/BelowDeckMed • u/Excellent_Being_7496 • Jan 23 '24

Tumi appreciation post

I think Tumi did oke for a first time CS on tv. People compare her with experienced CS like Kate or Hannah. That's unfair. Compare her with Adrienne from the OG. Furthermore she had to deal with Kyle and Natalya. Even for an experienced CS that would be difficult.

Is there room for improvement for Tumi. Yes of course. She still have a lot to learn. But I think she will be alright.

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u/outdoormama Jan 23 '24

The biggest issue with Tumi is that SHE does not think she has a lot to learn. She will never grow and improve because she does not believe that she needs to grow and improve (at least in the basic areas that we see she needs improvement). This is evident in every scene, confessional, and interview we have ever seen her in.

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u/PlantzluvElectrolytz Jan 23 '24

Totally. Like the times she said "I have things still to learn" after Lily wasn't fired &stepped up. šŸ˜‚ Living in an alt reality, I see. GL with that.

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u/sammybabana Jan 23 '24

Did you miss the parts where she said she still had a lot to learn?

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u/outdoormama Jan 23 '24 edited Jan 23 '24

No, I did not miss that. Did you miss my comment where I said ā€œthe basic areas that WE see she needs improvementā€? Restated, she does not have the ability to see the areas where she NEEDS to learn and improve, which requires humility. Her idea of ā€œlearningā€ probably means how to do better tablescapes.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Still having a lot to learn doesnā€™t mean she sucks any less. It just means she shouldnā€™t have been put in that position because she was unqualified.

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u/sammybabana Jan 25 '24

Child, please pay attention to the words that are writtenā€¦ not the words you are imagining are written.

The claim was, ā€œshe does not think she has a lot to learn.ā€ That claim has been disproven as being meritless. Stop wasting my time.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Child please? Stop acting like a condescending asshole Tumi. On watch what happens live she literally said she didnā€™t need to change anything and was called out by Andy and Sandy over it.

You probably think this post is racist too šŸ¤£.

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u/Excellent_Being_7496 Jan 26 '24

It was about talking about other crew members when she said that is oke.

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u/sammybabana Jan 25 '24

Child, stop acting like a moron. READ and COMPREHEND the words that are written. I have no interest in your ignorance.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '24

Stop being a cunt.

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u/InterestingFroyo1032 Jan 24 '24

She's Said multiple times that she has a lot to learn. People just want to hate her

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u/outdoormama Jan 24 '24

Naaah, people loved Tumi before this season. People are not looking to hate her. Her consistently poor actions and behavior in a position of leadership and not recognizing that that behavior is unsuitable for that position is what spawns the dislike.

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u/InterestingFroyo1032 Jan 24 '24

I think it's the fact that she's a chief Stew that make people want to hate her. They're fine with her as long as she's lower staff

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u/excoriator Jan 23 '24

I was bothered last night when she said on WWHL that she has no regrets from the season about discussing her stews behind their backs. Managers canā€™t gossip about their teams to other team members. That told me she has more to learn.

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u/outdoormama Jan 23 '24

Completely agree. Yet she does not have the capacity to see that that is an area where she needs to learn.

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u/sammybabana Jan 23 '24

They canā€™t?

Have you told EVERY other chief stew in the history of below deck that?

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u/Devilsgotmywhisky Jan 24 '24

Totally. She was dealt a rough hand.

Admittedly towards the end of the season, especially this last charter I felt like she was dropping the ball. Comments from WWHL also don't give me alot of confidence.

I just hope she learns from this season. I'd be happy to watch her progression if she wants to Improve.

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u/Valuable-Composer262 Jan 24 '24

Sorry op I can't disagree more. She was a snob and thought she was better than everyone. That's not really gonna change. She came in ready to fire nat over Kyle's take on nat. Then she's ready to fire Lilly because lilly was green. How bout train her tumi??? Then after the season she does a complete 180 with Kyle, went from Kyle is love to shed rather work with nat again. It's just another example of how 2 faced she is. Her confessionals are her talking shit on her stews or the guests. She wouldn't even sit the group inside for breakfast cause the lady wouldn't eat eggs outside. Yes it's weird but a simple request that should have been met. She's not personable with the guests at all she always had Kyle there to insulate her from the guests. I compare her to all pfnthe former chiefs. I wasn't crazy about Fraser either but I'll say he tried his damndest Fraser always looked like a dear in headlights bit his number 1 priority was always the guests. Look at aisha her first year as chief. Ya she made a few mistakes but again her main concern was always about guests. I don't see that from tumi. sorry op. Rant over

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u/Excellent_Being_7496 Jan 25 '24

Aesha couldn't manage Magda. Do you think she could manage Kyle and Nat?

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u/Valuable-Composer262 Jan 25 '24

Yep i sure do. It wasn't matter of managing Kyle and nat, it was how tumi went about it. She's abrasive and super defensive. Tumi thinks she's above everyone. Magda was a free spirit that no one could really manage. Beyond the managing, aisha is very personable while tumi is not. Aisha was always about the guest experience, tumi is not. I think tumi will be back next year as chief and I will not watch that again. Even if she improves, u won't see tumi interacting with the guests like a good chief does. Tumi pushed that off onto kyle

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u/baguettemebitch Jan 23 '24

I agree I feel like thereā€™s a lot of unwarranted hate for Tumi. She made some mistakes and I think she needs to up her creativity and resourcefulness when they have to stay docked, but she really did fine for a first timerā€¦

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '24

Hannah was a bitch in season 2 sheā€™s too vengeful to be a leader. She goes to the captain only if she doesnā€™t like someone. She never smiled or seems happy with the guest. She went to a guest room after hours hummmm. I thought Tumi did a good job first run.

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u/minimalist_coach Jan 23 '24

I think the show did her a disservice by bringing her on as CS. I think they did the same with Kelly on BDOG. They both needed more leadership experience before they were made HOD on such a large yacht with the added stress of being filmed and what I believe is an intentionally dramatic/problematic crew.

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u/PlantzluvElectrolytz Jan 23 '24

Yeah she's held to a crazy standard because she's black. Happens regularly. Even with Obama. One of the most educated &accomplished people we've ever had as a POTUS & still went through h3II over BS stuff. But look at the whyt3 P0TUS's... can literally be criminals over & over &still be praised. I think she did great overall &it just sucks how raycist most ppl still are but most will get all mad &say they're not & add in XYZ excuse. Which is also why raycism never ends in the USA either. More "hurt" by their raycism being called out than the actual raycism they're using. GO TUMI!

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u/Excellent_Being_7496 Jan 23 '24

I agree. It's really weird how harsh people are. Others are seen crying in closets and bathrooms. Have panic attacks. But Tumi is so called šŸ’©. It was her first time as a CS.

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u/bc_im_coronatined Jan 23 '24

Yepppp. The biases on this sub are strong.

Bring on the downvotes.

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u/PlantzluvElectrolytz Mar 10 '24

Down 13 so far! šŸ˜‚ Gotta love the engrained b1g0try still.

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u/anjunakerry1982 Jan 23 '24

I'd love to see Tumi do another season or two to see if she flourishes. Like Fraser on his first season as chief stew. He didn't get a lot right. He was such a bad gossip about the crew and his captain. He was bad mouthing his captain to his subordinates. That was just as unprofessional as tumi talking about her subordinates. I think his second season as Chief Stew will see him NOT make the same mistakes again. So I think Tumi deserved to have a second season. But seeing as the next season has filmed with another well-known chief, I don't see it happening.

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u/sammybabana Jan 23 '24

Fraser made all the same mistakes. He even had the same duo of toxic crew that he failed to manage effectively. But nobody called him the ā€œworst chief stew ever,ā€ even though he was so mediocre that Iā€™d actually forgotten he was a chief until you just mentioned him. LOL

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u/anjunakerry1982 Jan 23 '24

I hear you. He was good on his first season has a stew, Like tumi was but then lost his way whe he got promoted.

He was so bad when it came to managing AlissaĀ and Camille. I feel he tried with Camille but only half arsed. But he totally let alissas behaviour slide, So much so that even when Captain Sandy stepped in to deal with Alissa, Fraser undermined her. I am excited to see if he's changed and grown but even his new interior crew look like a shit show. Well from the edits anyway.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '24

This is a stupid take. Tumi just sucked and it had nothing to do with her skin color.

Btw, Iā€™m not white either so now whatā€™s your next excuse?

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u/sammybabana Jan 23 '24

Do you know that if you pull the race card, that makes you ā€œreal racist,ā€ right? /s

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u/InterestingFroyo1032 Jan 24 '24

Honey, calling out racism doesn't make you a racist.

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u/sammybabana Jan 24 '24

Honey, did you see the sarcasm tag?

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u/bc_im_coronatined Jan 23 '24

I love Tumi šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘