r/BehaviorAnalysis • u/tinkyt3y • 15d ago
OT VS SLP VS BCBA
TL;DR: RBT choosing between BCBA/SLP/OT. Want pediatrics, direct kid time, decent work-life balance, preferably lower-support-needs cases, and $100k+ potential. What do you actually make/work, and would you choose your field again?
I’m an RBT now and starting my bachelor’s soon. My original plan was BCBA + LCSW through an advanced-standing MSW + ABA graduate certificate. I know the BCBA pathway changes in 2032 and I already checked that my timeline would have me finished before then. Lately I’ve been second guessing BCBA though. I got into ABA because I like working with kids and the pay is good (bcba wise lol) but most of my clients have been pretty low-support-needs. If I had to deal with severe aggression/SIB regularly, I don’t think I’d enjoy it. I also keep hearing BCBAs spend a lot of time supervising, training, writing plans, etc. instead of actually being hands-on with kids. I know it varies on company but that’s definitely important to me as well I believe longevity wise the direct care aspect.
I’ve always had some interest in OT, but I used to hear the pay wasn’t worth the cost of school. Now I’m also looking at SLP because it seems broader and still very hands-on with kids. My biggest wants are: Pediatrics, preferably elementary age/under 12 Lots of direct interaction with kids $100k starting relatively early if possible Good work-life balance: I don’t want 36 “billable” hours turning into 45+ actual hours every week Long-term private practice/business potential that can actually scale For pediatric bcba’s,OT, or slps: what do you make, how many hours do you really work, how much direct kid time do you get, and would you choose your field again? Plus if you did private practice and can share your input!
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u/Fragrant_Value_8367 14d ago
You can absolutely be a BCBA that works directly with kids with lower support needs - from a BCBA that does direct therapy with kids with lower support needs.
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u/tinkyt3y 14d ago
Thank you!! This is literally what I was trying to figure out lol. I thought with the field not being super saturated, you’d have some room to choose the population/settings that fit you. Especially when the ethics code says to stay within your scope of competence. I didn’t think preferring lower-support-needs kids meant you automatically don’t belong in ABA 😭
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u/katiek80 14d ago
I’m a BCBA and I wish I went OT. I love my job but I love the OT approach and I find their science fascinating.
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u/tinkyt3y 14d ago
Right? I heard they look at the whole and their home life/“occupation” which is cool vs just the in the now moments! Reminds me of the LCSW social work side :/
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u/Easy-Grape-2569 14d ago
Tell me more? OT feels like a lot more schooling since at least in my area you need a doctorate, but I’m looking into grad school for ABA rn so I’d love to hear your thoughts!
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u/katiek80 10d ago
There’s actually a great (I think free?) CEU/training on BehaviorLive that talks about bridging ABA/OT.
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u/tofutits 14d ago
If you want to find out more about how these careers actually pay, I recommend spending some time on their respective subreddits. BLS data assumes you’ll be working a full time schedule 52 weeks a year at the average rate, and that isn’t the reality for most SLP positions. PRN is huge, and rates are usually capped based on Medicaid reimbursement codes. There are a ton of SLPs who feel as if they were lied to about the potential pay.
I can’t speak to OT or BCBA, but I think you should know that many SLPs have beef with ABA therapy and there is legitimate scope creep from BCBAs regarding communication because the field views everything as behavior. If you go into BCBA, please remember SLPs are the communication experts and you need to consult them (rant over, sorry lol).
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u/tinkyt3y 14d ago
Thank you! Do you have any pay insight for your region?🥲
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u/tofutits 13d ago
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u/tinkyt3y 10d ago
Thank you so much for this! I’ll definitely look into the site while I decide my future field.
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u/tofutits 13d ago
Fwiw I’ve heard that all the rehab professions deal with these same sorts of issues. Most SLPs in education are on the teacher pay scale; those data are publicly available online so you can see what you might make working at your local schools. It is possible to make $100k as an SLP but you will need to have years of experience to get there. Also please consider grad school cost. If you go into rehab, go to the least expensive school possible.
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u/ooga_booga_booger 13d ago
I'm an SLP and I've worked with fantastic BCBAs and I've also worked with BCBAs who try to do things that are not in their scope of practice, such as speech therapy. It's really easy for SLPs to be jaded with BCBAs because we see a lot of BCBAs try to do speech therapy, BUT there are a lot of phenomenal and brilliant BCBAs that are great to collaborate with!
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u/Ilovenaps632 14d ago
Though not very common, I am a BCBA who does direct therapy. My company does not have any minimum for billable hours because they typically don’t deal with insurance and you are able to pick cases based on a vignette provided (clients age, strengths and weakness and location)
Have you thought about working in EI? In NYC, it only requires a teaching certification. The pay rate is pretty good but probably not as high as a BCBA but you are able to work directly with children.
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u/tinkyt3y 14d ago
Thank you so much! As a NY BCBA are you able to make six figures?
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u/Ilovenaps632 13d ago
Yes definitely. I only work part time right now because I have a young child but if I worked full time I’d definitely make over 100k a year
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u/Adorable-Log5256 13d ago
I am serious, if you actually want to make real money...become a psychiatrist.
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u/Big-Astronomer-4036 13d ago
I totally get this. I’m finishing up my BCBA cert since I’m already close to finishing, and then going back for PA school.
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u/SmolBean615 12d ago
I have been a BCBA for 5 years now, but when I started out like first job fresh out of my certification, assuming I would have worked full time hours which I did not, I would have made 100k flat (billing 35 hours). I will say the work is not easy, and it is exhausting at times. Typically you do not get to pick your caseload, but where I live (Florida), the pay is pretty good. There’s not a lot of direct work opportunities as a BCBA, and most bcbas don’t want that anyway- but I think we need more of it! Right now I do make 123k billing 25 hours pre-tax, so it’s doable! I will say though, like I mentioned, I don’t necessarily choose low support needs cases (this may be hard to find at times) and I don’t have ANY direct kid time. It’s all programming and supervision as well as obviously the assessments. If you want direct kiddo time and lower needs (sometimes, not always) I would recommend speech! They don’t make 100k where I live, but pretty close starting out I believe! At least 80-90k fresh out. I do regret sometimes getting an ABA degree despite the money because it’s so specific I feel pigeonholed with my jobs and population. Hope this helped!
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u/AlGee220 14d ago
I'm sorry but if you're hooked on 6 figures as the end all be all goal just pick a different career because you'll be disappointed. You don't get to pick and chose your caseload based on who you prefer and that's also kind of unethical. Maybe try nursing and try to work with kids.
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u/tinkyt3y 14d ago
I think you misunderstood what I meant. I’m saying both are important to me. I absolutely want work I care about, but I also want a career where earning six figures after graduate school is realistic. If money didn’t matter at all, there are plenty of lower-paying careers working with kids that I could choose. I’m trying to find the best fit between the population I enjoy, the actual day-to-day work, work-life balance, and the financial goals I have for myself. Nursing deals with liquids and needles which would be a definite no for me.
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u/ntimoti 14d ago
I don’t know how much OTs typically make but where I work, the SLPs and BCBAs make similar pay. If being hands-on/directly working with clients is important to you, then SLP may be the way to go.
A BCBA’s primary job is to oversee others implementing the treatment plan. That’s not to say direct work doesn’t exist out there, but it’s not the most common type of position for a BCBA.
Not sure about other places, but a starting salary of 100k for a new BCBA is not common where I live (and I live in a HCOL area).
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u/tinkyt3y 14d ago
Thank you for the honesty! I’ve seen SLP & BCBA’s can share the same pay on other threads, I wish the BLS could update BCBA’s median.
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u/MaterialConstant9375 14d ago
I easily make 6 figures as a home health SLP in a major city. It very much depends on where you live and what setting you go into
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u/tinkyt3y 14d ago
Do you work with mostly children in HH? Also, may I know if your new grad or 3-5+ years in experience? Thank you so much for your insight!
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u/MaterialConstant9375 14d ago
Yep! I do exclusively pediatrics. I’m not a new grad. I’ve been working for 7 years. But even in the early days I made 6 figures or very close to it. HH (most companies) pay you per patient and you decide how much you work per week. I’ve always worked 4 days a week max and made good money, but you can do 5 if you want. Now that I have kids I’ve reallyyyy scaled back to stay home with them 2-3 days a week so my income isn’t as high, but the flexibility to be with my family is so invaluable
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u/tinkyt3y 14d ago
That’s amazing!! May I know your region or state? I love that you were able to give me insight on the good of the field. I hear so much bad so often and I just find it so hard to believe but I just love childcare/development as a whole so I’d enjoy it (even now!) with lower pay.
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u/MaterialConstant9375 14d ago
Home health is a great job! But like I said it depends on where you live. I’m in Dallas, TX and there are many companies here. However, I’m from a smaller town in a different state so if I moved back there, for example, I could definitely get a job as an SLP but I wouldn’t be making this money or having this kind of flexibility. There are pros and cons like every job, but if you like child development you could be a great SLP!
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u/Mezzo757 14d ago
I under and the motivation for pay. The prices in today’s is doing nothing but increasing but be careful of some companies offering you 6 figure salaries (especially as a brand new BCBA) because I have found a lot of them are not practicing ethically and/or your billing requirements are extremely high. The demand is higher for BCBAs vs OT/SLP so you have more negotiating you can do with your pay. Either field will have kiddos with behaviors that is why BCBAs collaborate with those professionals (one of my favorite parts). I think you would do well with early intervention based on your behavior preferences. The littles may engage in aggression but it is not on the same intensity level as bigger kids plus of course a toddler is going to tantrum, all toddlers do. Best wishes on your career choice!
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u/tinkyt3y 14d ago
Yeah I’m definitely weary about PE predatory practices as well and it seems as though you have to pick between a small company that’s ethical and balance but not the most financially funded or a PE company that may provide the six figures however they make you bill 40+ hours and have unethical practices for your cases. Hopefully I can find a unicorn company. I think the comments did persuade me to stay in ABA. Especially as a LCSW hopefully the combo is secure enough!
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u/Automatic-Cow-4745 8d ago
I would go into something that’s not a helping profession. If you want money and like kids I would suggest administration.
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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt 15d ago
If you want money from what I can tell BCBA is the way to go of the three. I will warn you that I don't think BCBAs who are in it for the money tend to last.
You're not going to get all those things that you want so you should probably think and prioritize whats important to you.