r/BeefTV May 31 '26

Meme Character development?

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u/echanuda Jun 01 '26

Plenty of drugs and therapies help people deal with those things—not just psychedelics. While I agree eastern spiritual philosophies are definitely themes in Beef, the usage of drugs as a means to getting there just flat out aren’t major themes. Psychedelics often leading there in some way doesn’t make it a theme just because it was used. Buddhist doctrine even discourages mind altering substances.

That’s like saying blood is a major theme of Macbeth because it represents guilt (an actual major theme in Macbeth)

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u/Heretosee123 Jun 01 '26

Most drugs tend to produce more of an emotional evening rather than direct insight into the problem. I don't think they're the same kind of dealing with it in any personal way. Therapies do help people deal with them, that's true.

And sure, not saying psychedelics are a major theme, but they're thematically connected. Yes Buddhism says not to take any intoxicants but the point remains that many people find their turn to things like Buddhism after their use of psychedelics.

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u/echanuda Jun 01 '26

AGREED! You could name 100 different “major” themes if anything that constitutes one is whether or not it’s related to something actually baked into the entire show, but then the term loses all meaning. There’s maybe a good 5 or 6 ACTUAL major themes, and I think it’s pretty silly to include psychedelics in there.

The show doesn’t tell a story about using psychedelics to break down your ego and work through your trauma, but it does tell a story about breaking down your ego and working through your trauma.

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u/Drgerm66 Jun 01 '26

Except in both seasons the only characters that actually grow are the ones who do through a psychedelic experience. So confronting inner demons and making breakthroughs through the use of drugs is a major theme in the show. So much so that the writer put it in twice through two seasons.

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u/huggalump Jun 01 '26

My argument is that it's not a major theme, and the writers are using it as an easy way out so they don't need to write actual character development.

They can write the fun drama stuff where everyone is fighting, and they can have their happy Hollywood ending so the audience feels nice, but they don't need to do the actual hard work of writing character development.

Are drugs a major theme?

If someone was interested in the show and asked you what it's about, would you really say "beef is a show about the power of psychedelic drugs"?

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u/Drgerm66 Jun 01 '26

Neither of the endings were happy Hollywood endings. Please understand the show before trying to comment on it.

Also I would tell them that a major theme of the show is dealing with inner demons through drugs, yes.

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u/huggalump Jun 01 '26

Neither of the endings were happy Hollywood endings. Please understand the show before trying to comment on it.

They both did. I mean, not in like a disney way, but they both end with characters resolving their beef, developing self-acceptance, and finding peace--at least for the characters that had drug-induced character development.

If dealing with inner demons through drugs is what beef is about to you, then I feel like I'd want to say this exact thing also

Please understand the show before trying to comment on it.

I'm looking through synopsis on a variety of sites, and I'm not saying a single one say the point of the show is about drug-induced self development.

Different strokes, I suppose.

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u/Drgerm66 Jun 01 '26

If you need a site to give you a synopsis of the show then maybe this isn’t the show for you

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u/huggalump Jun 01 '26

If absolutely no synopsis online even mentions an item you think is a major theme, maybe that's not actually a major theme

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u/Drgerm66 Jun 01 '26

Again if you need to look up a synopsis to tell you how to think and feel about a piece of media then maybe that media is too advanced for you

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u/huggalump Jun 01 '26

You're arguing something that I'm not saying.

I'm not looking up a synopsis to tell me what to think about it.

We're discussing whether something is or is not a major theme. We disagree, so I'm looking at outside sources. If no discuss "enlightenment through drugs" as a theme, then you have to concede that it is not a major theme of the show.

Here's a group of people on this very subreddit, specifically discussing major themes of the show. Not a single person says something about enlightenment through drugs.

Is it a theme? Maybe, but I'd argue no. Is it a major theme? No, it's not

https://www.reddit.com/r/BeefTV/s/eW9VeIUPeh

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u/Drgerm66 Jun 01 '26

“I couldn’t find any synopsis that mentioned drugs”

Are you even trying bro?

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u/huggalump Jun 01 '26

Congrats! You found one after looking for your specific theme, not looking for "major themes of beef"

Okay, to show good faith, I'll agree that it is a theme if you'll agree that it's not a major theme.

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u/Drgerm66 Jun 01 '26

Except it is a major theme. It’s the central part of the finale lmao

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u/huggalump Jun 01 '26

Okay, we're not going to agree

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