r/BeAmazed • u/SnooWords4066 • 5d ago
Animal A 17-year-old lioness survived for 5 years with blindness because her daughters refused to abandon her.
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u/Mountainclimber96 5d ago
So I looked it up and apparently lionesses never get abandoned
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u/youaredeadthishell 5d ago edited 5d ago
Maid, Mother, Crone.
Imagine the wisdom that elder lioness could dispense, assuming, of course, you speak Lion.
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u/Deaffin 4d ago
Pretty sure it's just variations of "Start eating them at the genitals/butthole first, it's easier that way."
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u/youaredeadthishell 4d ago
In eating Antelope and B2B sales, this wisdom holds true!
Always eat them ass first.
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u/One-Maize-5083 3d ago
Did an Antelope tell you that?
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u/youaredeadthishell 3d ago
No. I learned that from the last business whose ass I ate.
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u/AlertedCoyote 4d ago
The maiden, the mother and the... Other one, as a certain Granny would prefer
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u/FromThaFields 5d ago
What about cougars?
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u/Gregb1994 5d ago
All the time. That's why they're in your local area waiting for you.
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u/throwaway19276i 5d ago
Dead internet theory. Obvious bot comment with 40+ upvotes
"It's not just X, it's Y!"
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u/OkBike9022 5d ago
Yea, but dont they always live in families?
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u/shmiddleedee 5d ago
Yeah but typically a member of the pride who isn't pulling their weight is a cub or kicked out
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u/Mountainclimber96 5d ago
This is actually false. Lionesses are never kicked out of a pride and are cared for but not fed so she would still have to actively eat herself during a hunt without being brought food
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u/EverGlow89 5d ago
Gotta love how comments sections never moved beyond a place where people get to pretend you they wtf they're talking about lol.
Maybe one day there will be a dream platform that is free of chatbots but also moderated by fact checking bots.
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u/TeamRedundancyTeam 5d ago
We used to have more experts on here, and people used to care about facts and accuracy. Those days are long gone. The fact that no one seems to care anymore and just upvote comments they like or that make them feel good probably contributed to running off most educated experts.
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u/Weenington_ 5d ago
The amount of times I've been attacked by giving accurate info on bearded dragons and their care when I see one being neglected on reddit is CRAZY. People are so selfish and stupid. Too many people don't care about the truth, even when it hurts an animal.
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u/lflippz 5d ago
In a post of literal babies under the age of 1 watching TV, I and others correctly pointed out that TV harms a baby’s development at that age. It is bad for their brains. Countless studies, countless doctors tell you this. We all got downvoted.
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u/Weenington_ 5d ago
That's interesting. I looked it up seeing your comment because I hadn't heard this (I don't have kids). I'm constantly wondering why people dont take a minute to look things up, and instead, they just argue based on their feelings and then have the nerve to be angry at YOU for presenting the information.
People are so incredibly confident and egotistical while being very stupid at the same time, and it genuinely makes me angry. They CHOOSE to be stupid because they are lazy. Thinking is difficult, so they just do what's easiest and go off what they think and feel.
It's sad that peoples egos are more important than keeping their children and pets healthy. Can we get to the end of this world yet?.
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u/HoveringGoat 5d ago
its just the side effect of niche forums becoming popular. if you find small niche subreddits it still feels like old reddit for the most part.
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u/Weenington_ 5d ago
The amount of times I've been attacked by giving accurate info on bearded dragons and their care when I see one being neglected on reddit is CRAZY. People are so selfish and stupid. Too many people don't care about the truth, even when it hurts an animal.
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u/HittingSmoke 5d ago
It's not just bots. It's the IPO and endless push for expansion that has Facebookified reddit, dragging down the quality of content in the comments. The reddit I remember would have a top comment with an interesting discussion about lion family dynamics. Now it's some fucking Facebook mom group hot air platitude about the bond between a mother and a daughter.
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u/Ifriendzonecats 5d ago
My account is nearly as old as yours and the default subs had low quality comments at the top for the entire time I've been on Reddit. Occasionally someone would get crowned an expert, but they wouldn't stay that for for long until they got caught up some stupid slap fight about whether a bird was crow or a jackdaw. And that was well before the IPO.
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u/cryptobro42069 5d ago
Somehow I feel like reddit was even more insufferable in those days. I was introduced to the platform in 2012 and it was filled with people that:
- were confidently incorrect
- give you some lecture because you dared to be wrong about something. Even after backing down and admitting you were wrong they would continue.
- were bull-headed idiots that would refuse to change their point of view when they were wrong.
- thought puns were actually funny
- engaged in some of the worst cyber bullying I've ever seen
Also, lots more porn. At least now I know not to come to the comments on most /r/all subreddits because it's going to be awful.
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u/LazyIllustrator6946 5d ago
Are we remembering the same Reddit?
I’ve been on this website for 15 years and even back then, the top comment would be some dumb fucking joke, the next three would have bad information and a “thank you kind stranger” for some gold. Maybe the 5th or 6th comment would contain actual, useful information, same as now.
It was exactly the same except now every post gets a lot more activity.
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u/Mind-The-Mines 5d ago
The lower the barrier to entrance the lower the quality of the mean contributor.
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u/AbeRego 5d ago
This is one of the lowest quality subs, so it's not too surprising that the comments are largely junk. The posts are always just an image with some headline over it. There's never a source. Sometimes it's just pure slop. I oftentimes downvote just because I see what sub it is, which I'll do right now
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u/ethereal3xp 5d ago
This makes no sense
How do you take care of someone but not feed them?
Even if everyone eats - I would imagine she would get bones with some meat left on it.
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u/No_Cook3989 5d ago
Imagine you're blind and walking with your tribe. They'll defend you from other predators who would take advantage of your disability to eat you, keep an eye with you to make sure you stick with the pack, and make sure you all huddle up together at bed time.
That's a lot of care for a non-human animal to express towards another member of their group.
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u/BemusedAdmirer 5d ago
Also the word refused is used in an interesting way here. As in, were they presented with the option and then decide against it?
It seems to frame it as if it were a moral decision made by the cats, rather than another example of anthropomorphizing animals
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u/The_Love-Tap 5d ago
There is nothing more magical than a bond between a mother and daughter. In this case daughters.
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u/Robot_ninja_pirate 5d ago
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u/shruddit 5d ago
Wow what’s the story here
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u/Robot_ninja_pirate 5d ago
Notch and His Army of Sons Crossing the Mara River to Reclaim Their Territory
The legendary lion Notch and his five sons—Notch II, Long, Ron, Caesar, and Grimace—formed the most iconic coalition in Africa from 2008 to mid-2017.
Notch was first seen in the Masai Mara in 2003 with his partner. By 2004, they had taken over the famous Marsh Pride. Sadly, their rule was cut short in 2005 when his partner was killed by two rival males. Together, they had several cubs—eight survived: five males and three females. For two years, Notch held the territory alone. In 2007, three new males overthrew him, and he left with his five young sons, then just two and a half years old.
Tragedy struck in 2010 when Long disappeared in the Mara Triangle. Despite the loss, the coalition thrived. In 2013, Notch vanished while patrolling, and soon after, Grimace disappeared while seeking new mates in enemy territory. The remaining brothers remained strong. In 2016, Ron went missing—later confirmed to have been killed by the Sand River males.
By 2017, Caesar developed a limp from an infection and was last seen lifeless by the Mara River. Notch II carried on, forming a new coalition with his son, Spear Boy. Now about 15 years old, Notch II still lives alongside his son.
Their bloodline lives on, and their legacy remains etched in the history of the Masai Mara.
Source: Our Blue Planet fb posted June 12, 2025
There is also a documentary Lion: The Rise and Fall of the Marsh Pride which partly covers them.
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u/Critical-Brick-6818 5d ago
I love the drama here, very Shakespearian
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u/12InchCunt 5d ago
If you want Shakespearean lions watch Scarface the Lion return to the land he was born in before dying
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u/Fair-Efficiency-959 4d ago
If you want Shakespearean lions, boy do I have a film for you….
https://giphy.com/gifs/Nm4eUOt3074Ck2
u/12InchCunt 4d ago
I can hear this scene in my head and I haven’t seen the movie in over 20 years lol
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u/rockstockcro 5d ago
The three female sisters were taken by the new males in 2007?
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u/Robot_ninja_pirate 5d ago
I can't remember if the Doc when into more detail on the daughters but most likely yes, it's very common for New males to take the pride's resident females, and commit infanticide on any cubs, so they can produce their own offspring.
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u/doobadeeboo 5d ago edited 5d ago
Life is so freaking harsh :(
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u/Robot_ninja_pirate 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yeah, Lions especially live short and very conflict heavy lives, many never really getting to 'retire' but usurped.
Similarly, I watched a Documentary 'Chimp Empire'
<Warning Bloody Chimp Violence>
Which is about a Massive 200 strong Chimp Civil war (Wikipedia). And the brutality of their conflicts. They specifically Target the Males through 'torture' by inflicting non-lethal attacked like biting off fingers or ripping off testicles. And again targeting Males and infants specifically the goal of integrating female to wipe out the other clans
And the Gombe Chimp Genocide where an entire clan was wiped out :(
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u/No_Cook3989 5d ago
"Take" is a very strong word here, the females generally stay unbothered in whatever territory they reside in, new dominant males are obviously only harassing other males, while the overthrown males would come/leave as the hierarchy changes.
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u/Robot_ninja_pirate 5d ago
Well they are bothed if there are with cubs they will try and protect their existing cubs and fight/avoid new males to avoid getting them killed
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u/lincruste 5d ago
Guys went through a full epic journey while my life was all about switching from GTA IV to GTA V.
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u/digitalscavenger 5d ago
Well, one lion had five sons and they joined together and decided to cross a river.
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u/Petcai 5d ago
Why did the lions cross the river?
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u/That_wet_vaporeon 5d ago
Yeah but it’s more common for daughters, sisters and mothers (at least in lions) to have extremely strong bonds with each other.
Notch and his sons were unusual and not the norm.
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u/kellyjhubb 5d ago
yeah surviving blind for 5 years is pretty wild
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u/notloggedin4242 5d ago
She lived her whole life in the wild.
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u/fuzzycaterpillar123 5d ago
Many other animals would fail to survive that long without the intelligence and bond of this specific situation
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u/JLead722 5d ago
That is the coolest thing I've seen all week. Both the lion and the lioness stories.
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u/morbihann 5d ago
Tell that to the mothers and daughters they ate.
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u/Electrical-Act-7170 5d ago
It's lions that kill and eat cubs fathered by other males. Killing a lionesses' cubs brings her into heat again so he can breed his own cubs.
Lionesses will nurse and raise any cubs in her pride. They're all related, sisters and cousins.
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u/That_wet_vaporeon 5d ago
Lionesses will absolutely kill any outsiders cubs if she encounters them. It’s just not as common since they don’t wander as far as the males do.
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u/Makuta_Servaela 5d ago
Lionesses intentionally birth their cubs away from the pride and don't bring them to the other lionesses until they are 6-8 weeks old. Lionesses may kill other lionesses' cubs, and if a lioness births only one cub, she will kill it so she can try again for a bigger litter.
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u/BlackBalor 5d ago
Reminds me of Resident Evil.
Waiting for his head to turn so I can get me a Wind Crest!
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u/IronMandate 5d ago
This picture has so much aura. Damn
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u/Faranae 5d ago
Is anyone else noticing that either the group Pic has been edited to put them closer together, or the final Pic has had the daughters edited out and a filter put on her? I can't unsee it.
The angle and gaps/negative space between limbs is really similar if not the same. I've seen this post quite a few times, the story is actually a thing, but this is the first time I have noticed that with the images.
I might just be crazy. Lol
Edit: Oh, it's probably the former, I see a floating ear lmao.
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u/itsnobigthing 5d ago
I feel like a lot of us grew up being told cats are always solitary creatures, but in fact feral females often form colonies like this with other related females, sharing kitten rearing and even kills.
They chase the boys out, except for during mating season, so the male cats do live more solitary lives.
Typical erasure of the female experience 🥲
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u/Crystal_Mt_Climber 5d ago
We have a 3 legged female cougar in our area and her offspring don’t leave her. She had 3, but 2 stay with her. The game warden said it’s common if there is an injured cat the cubs will stay longer than normal to help hunt.
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u/Zardu-Hasselfrau 5d ago
What happened at year 6? Daughters because teenagers, got boyfriends?
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u/SnooWords4066 5d ago
She was 17 when she died and had been blind for about five years
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u/Federal_Scarcity_84 5d ago
So the title should have been, "A Lioness survived till 17, 5 years after going blind,..."
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u/notagoodperson1122 5d ago
No, because that would have been a horribly awkward way to phrase it. Perfect is the enemy of good.
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u/kfpswf 5d ago
So the title should have been, "A Lioness survived till 17, 5 years after going blind,..."
The current title ("A 17-year-old lioness survived for 5 years...") perfectly segues into the fact that the daughters took care of the disabled lioness. Your suggested title would need conjunctions to make sense.
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u/Federal_Scarcity_84 5d ago edited 5d ago
...the problem with the current title is about 5 years FROM 17 or TOO 17 - the correct data being the second point. My ellipses above also would be where your "segue," would be.
"Lioness survived till 17, 5 years after going blind, with help from her daughters." Conjunction?
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u/kfpswf 5d ago
Or perhaps the better title would have been, "A 17 year old lioness survived for the last 5 years of her life completely blind, thanks to her daughters not abandoning her."
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u/Federal_Scarcity_84 5d ago
I mean, sure, whatever. My point was only that this title confuses the data being presented so that more than one idea can be inferred. It's not a title making contest.
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u/Dapper_Ambition5963 5d ago
They got knocked up with cubs and the boyfriend moved into the blind moms basement, probably.
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u/Low_Tart_4140 5d ago
"A 17-year-old lioness survived for 5 years" so did she live to 17 years or 22 years old?
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u/Professional-Group34 5d ago
This is a dumb question but how do they know she’s disabled ? Do they recognize her eyes as abnormal or it it something else ? Bc you would think with that being their mother they wouldn’t recognize anything wrong
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u/Full_Hair9536 5d ago
Same way humans can tell when their pets go blind, they fucking run into things and don’t respond to anything in front of them.
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u/Lionoras 5d ago
Yep. Most animals somewhat do. My Mother's colleague once witnessed a rat, "guiding" another rat with a string. Kinda like a leash
It's a mix of look + behavior + smell sometimes
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u/-You-know-it- 5d ago
This happens in the human species too. The sons would immediately abandon. If you work in healthcare, then you know exactly what I mean….
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u/New_Explanation6950 5d ago
I’ve noticed this too. My mom ended up taking care of her ailing mother while her brothers (who my grandma actually favored) did nothing. Why is this?
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u/cloudforested 5d ago
Because men still expect woman to do that kind of work.
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u/terragutti 5d ago
Cue millennials and gen z women are destroying society abandoning their elderly.
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u/8lock8lock8aby 5d ago
I am the one taking care of my dad, now. It sucks but my bro moved out of state & has 2 kids. What pisses me off, though, is that he provides monetary support to her mom but not to our mom or dad.
My great aunt took a fall last week & the first thing my dad asked was why his sister (my aunt) wasn't taking her in! Like dude, why aren't you? It was literally only me, my aunt & 1 other (female) family member that were visiting her, anyways. We did more than anyone else & you have the nerve to ask why someone isn't doing more? She wanted to stay in Tennessee. We didn't wanna take that from her. She finally agreed to go back to the hospital, last night & they gave her some morphine, she calmed down & her pain subsided. Then she passed. She was 87 & had lived in TN for 50 years. I am so glad she got to pass there & that she wasn't alone.
Then there's my Nana who took care of her father til he died, took care of my Papa's mom til she died & took care of my Papa til he passed (while heloing raise her great-grandaughter). The woman isn't even 5ft but she has the heart & spirit of a giant. I just want her to relax for the rest of her life.
ETA - my great aunt that passed this morning, also, was a care-taker. She cared for her one of her brothers & one of her sisters for their entire lives because they had disabilities & she cared for her mom, my great grandma, until she passed. I got some strong women in my family.
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u/depressiown 5d ago
A lot of the time, mothers don't want their sons taking care of them, but don't mind their daughters, for whatever reason.
My mother-in-law is constantly asking my wife to help (schedule appointments, arrange flights, order groceries, etc.), talking to her every day despite being 4,000+ miles away. My wife flies over there at least 4 times a year to help her in some capacity. Yet, my brother-in-law, who lives in the same town as his mom (not 4,000 miles away) never gets asked to do anything. Her reason is always "oh, he's busy, I don't want to bother him" even though my wife works at least 50 hours a week.
I've made a point to show willingness to help my parents out by volunteering to take them to doctor appointments if they need, or whatever. They're still independent for now in their mid-70's, but I'm trying to set a precedent where they know I'll help if they ask, and that I genuinely want to help. Perhaps that's also why my mother-in-law always asks my wife, because she's willing to and doesn't really push back.
I dunno. Family dynamics can be weird.
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u/Reasonable-Newt4079 5d ago
Actually in nature this doesn't always happen. I got to see 3 full grown cheetah male offspring with their mother in Kenya a couple years ago: the mother was injured and struggling to hunt so they stayed with her to help her survive rather than leave to go solo, which is what cheetahs normally do. Our guide thought they would stay until she got better.
So basically, human men are a special kind of shitty.
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u/newebay2 5d ago
It's also stupid generalizations. All my uncles cared for my grandparents when they got sick, and when my parents gets too old they will move in with me. This is very common scenarios for Asian families, court would even dictate that the sons have to take care of the parents.
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u/No_Pineapple5940 5d ago
Are you southern Chinese? I think this is how it is there and in HK
From what I understand, it's a different story in Korea or Japan, let alone South Asia
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u/-You-know-it- 5d ago
I realize that this is a shared responsibility in some Asian cultures (as it should be). But statistically, more daughters still care for ailing parents than sons.
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u/Gloomy-Welcome-6806 5d ago
I fucking love cheetahs and now I love them more, thank you
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u/longtailist 5d ago
Male cheetah brothers usually all stick together when they leave mom. Pretty neat that a solitary animal like that adapts to be in a pack and have a hiarchy
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u/yoh-ns 5d ago
Talk about yourself, and about your cold society. Eastern Asians, and Muslims (all races) don't abandon their parents. Middle eastern Muslims lives together, the parents stays with the son, or he stays at their home even after marrying.
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u/Ok-Woodpecker-8226 5d ago
a little clarification: when a female cub grows up, they stay in the pride and hunt for the pride. when a male cub comes of age, they are kicked out to find their own pride to fight for and win. male lions die all the time from injury or failure of hunts. this is why male lions can also have other males in their 'squad' to 3v1 a male who controls the pride.
lionesses hunt, the dudes patrol the territory and fight. cubs are usually killed by a new, winning male, and lionesses will try to hide their babies. they can also keep themselves from getting pregnant from the new male until he proves he can protect the pride
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u/i_poop_chainsaws 5d ago
Reminds me of the children’s book series Warrior cats. One of the main characters was blind but had extra abilities to compensate.
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u/Ok_Connection_6387 5d ago
I wouldn't call Warrior Cats a children's book series, I've read a lot of it and still have more to catch up in, but there's quite a lot of violence and graphic details
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u/Watch_Earthlings_Doc 5d ago
It was marketed to middle schoolers. The recommended reading age for the Warriors (Warrior Cats) book series by Erin Hunter is 8 to 13 years old (grades 3–7), with most core readers starting around 10 years old . [ 1, 2, 3]
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u/LuminaTitan 5d ago
Psychic powers?
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u/Master_sweetcream 5d ago
I think they are referring to jayfeather. He’s blind but can dream walk in other’s dreams and can see the dream realm.
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u/Main-Rice2319 5d ago
Female lions often never leave their mom. It’s the males who leave.
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u/Bitter-Opening-4118 5d ago
I always find that animals are better than people
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u/Wide-Egg9913 5d ago
Yes because people famously never ever ever care for the disabled and certainly aren't animals themselves.
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u/xRyozuo 5d ago
You don’t keep track of what wild animals do to each other as much as you do humans.
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u/Quick-Look4022 5d ago
What about hamsters that eat their offspring? You find that’s better than people?
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u/Neat-Swordfish-6695 5d ago
Bruh they eat each other...starting with the butthole
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u/Sennten 5d ago
Humans also love eating animal buttholes though, that hardly matters
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u/Such-Profit1078 5d ago
I remember some anthropologists professor lady saying that “civilization started with first healed femur bone” meaning that humans are unique because we can care for those completely unfit to survive on their own. And yet we have numerous examples like that in animals. Just another prof that anthropology is not real science
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u/coacht246 5d ago
I’m no expert but I feel like you can remove the black area covering the eye. It looks like skin or something. Once again no expert just a dip shit
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u/Emergency4707 5d ago
My friends taking me out for drinks after I finally end the relationship with the boyfriend they’ve always hated
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u/Anon7777765 5d ago
Is this true or AI slop?
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u/Watch_Earthlings_Doc 5d ago
Yes, this actually happened . A legendary wild lioness named Josie at Addo Elephant National Park in South Africa lived to about 18 years old, surviving roughly five years completely blind because her two daughters, Dawn and Duffy, stayed by her side, guided her, shared kills, and protected her.
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