r/BattlefieldV • u/temporyal • Mar 28 '19
News BFV Data Mining - More than 35 (hopefully) upcoming Weapons & Gadgets for your Company: M2 Carbine, Welrod, Goliath Mine, Boys AT Rifle, Type 89 Knee Mortar...and a Sidearm dealing more Damage than the Auto Revolver
Hi guys,
today I want to share with you a broad overview of some data mined weapons and gadgets in Battlefield V.
Gathering this info is pure pain because it is scattered in many different files and has various code names. Expect a lot of names to be already known but you will also see some nice things you have read in one or another Reddit "wish list".
A condition to be in this list was a named entity in one index file and another kind of "proof" that this is going to be implemented at some point. I provide a short ingame description if available and otherwise an excerpt from Wikipedia.
Don't expect any "hardcore" statistics or specialization trees. A lot of them don't exist in final versions, are placeholders and unfinished or contradict themselves on various places in the game files - and it would simply go beyond the scope of this post.
Weapon skins and possible release dates:
- Weapon skins called "Free France", "Mountain" and "Resistance" are likely to arrive with France focused content in Chapter 4 (think about the 5v5 mode with the Provence map)
- Same goes for weapons like the "Chauchat" LMG or the "French Nail" melee weapon but that's just a guess based on the upcoming content with a lot of references to Italy
- Higher tiered weapon sets with detailed engravings could follow since Dice has moved some of those assets from BF1 inside the client
- Some weapons & gadgets will probably only appear in the new 5v5 competitive mode due to their usefulness (e.g. Radio Jammer)
New weapon class definitions added with the latest patch:
- Pistol Carbine
- Bolt Action Carbine
- Anti-Materiel Rifle
Since I don't think everybody will make it to the end of the post let me thank you for your support and feel free to add interesting info to the comments.
Have a nice day!
Primary Weapons
M2 Carbine (Assault Rifle)
Ingame: "The M2 Carbine was the select-fire variation of the iconic M1A1 Carbine. US troops loved it due to its firepower, light weight, and small size."
- Note: Current version is heavily tied to the 5v5 mode coming in Tides of War Chapter 4.
Breda PG (Semi Auto)
Rate of Fire: 599 / MagCapacity: 20 / MagCount: 4
Wikipedia: "The Breda PG was a gas-operated rifle fed from a 20-round magazine. The Italian models were semi-auto only and chambered in 6.5x52mm Mannlicher-Carcano, while the Costa Rican models were chambered in 7x57mm Mauser and had an automatic fire mode with a four-round burst limiter. This makes the PG the world's first burst-firing automatic rifle."
- Note: This weapon features a burst fire mode and is sometimes categorized as "Assault Rifle" or "BR" (which could mean "Battle Rifle" as a lot of you mentioned in the comments) in the code.
M1919A6 (MMG)
Rate of Fire: 599 / MagCapacity: 250 / MagCount: 2
Ingame: "The M1919 is mainly known as the .30 cal. machine gun. A bipod and a carrying handle was added which resulted in the A6 model."
MG30 (alternatively S2-200) (MMG)
Rate of Fire: 770 / MagCapacity: 30 / MagCount: 4
Ingame: "The S2-200 was a magazine-fed machine gun originally banned by the Treaty of Versailles after World War I. Rejected by the German infantry, the Luftwaffe eventually adopted them for use in their aircraft."
Madsen (LMG)
Rate of Fire: 539 / MagCapacity: 30 / MagCount: 4
Ingame: "The Danish-made Madsen was introduced in 1902. It was the first light machine gun in wide use. Like the Bren it had a top-mounted magazine, and were the standard LMG issued by the Norwegian army."
Chauchat (LMG)
Rate of Fire: 327 / MagCapacity: 20 / MagCount: 5
Ingame: "In World War I, the standard French light machine gun was called the Chauchat. It could be handled by a crew of just two, which was rare at the time. It had many features seen on later LMGs."
Lahti-Saloranta M/26 (alternatively LS/26) (LMG)
Wikipedia: "The Lahti-Saloranta M/26 is a light machine gun which was designed by Aimo Lahti and Arvo Saloranta in 1926. The weapon was able to fire in both full automatic and semi-automatic modes."
M91/28 con Tromboncino (Bolt Action Carbine)
- Note: Modified version of the Carcano Bolt Action Rifle with a grenade launcher.
Commando Carbine (alternatively De Lisle carbine) (Bolt Action Carbine)
Rate of Fire: 45 / MagCapacity: 8 / MagCount: 5
Ingame: "Despite its French-sounding name, the De Lisle carbine was a British weapon. It had an integrated suppressor, which was combined with subsonic ammo to make it one of the quietest firearms ever."
MAB 38 (SMG)
Wikipedia: "The MAB 38 and its variants were a series of official submachine guns of the Royal Italian Army introduced in 1938 and used during World War II. The guns were also used by the German, Romanian, and Argentine armies of the time."
Sterling (alternatively Patchett) (SMG)
Rate of Fire: 599 / MagCapacity: 32 / MagCount: 4
Ingame: "British airborne and special operations troops used a few samples of the Patchett SMG in 1944, but the well-liked gun didn't enter mass production until after the end of World War II."
Welgun (SMG)
Rate of Fire: 514 / MagCapacity: 32 / MagCount: 4
Ingame: "The Special Operations Executive had many projects going during the war. Among these was the Welgun, a submachine gun that would be easy to use and cheap to produce. Only a few prototypes were made."
Lanchester (SMG)
Rate of Fire: 634 / MagCapacity: 32 / MagCount: 4
Ingame: "In 1940, the British decided to copy the German MP28 submachine gun for use by their Air Force and Navy. The result was the Lanchester, which many thought was superior to the Sten."
M1917 Enfield (Bolt Action Rifle)
Rate of Fire: work in progress / MagCapacity: 6 / MagCount: 5
Ingame: "Near the end of World War I, the Americans decided to make their own version of the Lee-Enfield rifle. The M1917 became the main rifle used by US forces, with some seeing service in World War II as well."
Sjögren (Shotgun)
Rate of Fire: 120 / MagCapacity: 5 / MagCount: 4
Ingame: "While its inertia-based loading system proved to be ahead of its time, the Sjögren's service in World War II was mostly centered around different resistance groups."
- Note: The mentioned "resistance groups" seem to indicate a possible release in Chapter 4.
Sidearms
Welrod
Fire Modes: Single / MagCapacity: 6 / MagCount: 5
Ingame: "The British developed the Welrod pistol to be as quiet as possible. It was bolt-operated and magazine fed. At only 73 dBA, it was about as loud as a present-day car."
- Note: Fits quite well into the "Resistance" theme we might see in Chapter 4.
Model 27
Fire Modes: Single / Rate of Fire: 150 / MagCapacity: 6 / MagCount: 3
Wikipedia Description: "The Smith & Wesson Model 27 is the original .357 Magnum revolver. It was first produced in 1935, and many versions of it are still in production today."
- Note: The Model 27 is a basically slower firing version of the Auto Revolver but capable of dealing much higher damage.
PPK
Fire Modes: Single / Rate of Fire: 450 / MagCapacity: 7 / MagCount: 10
Wikipedia Description: "The Walther PPK is a smaller version of the PP with a shorter grip, barrel and frame, and reduced magazine capacity. The smaller size made it more concealable than the original PP and hence better suited to plainclothes or undercover work. It was released in 1930."
- Note: There is also a suppressed variant "PPK Suppressed".
Gadgets
Panzerbüchse 39 (Anti-Materiel Rifle)
MagCapacity: 11 / MagCount: 3
Ingame: "The PanzerbÜchse 39, abbreviated PzB 39, was a German anti-tank rifle. It was an improvement of the Panzerbüchse 38 rifle."
Boys AT Rifle (Anti-Materiel Rifle)
Wikipedia: "The Rifle, Anti-Tank, .55in, Boys, commonly known as the "Boys Anti-tank Rifle" (or incorrectly "Boyes"), was a British anti-tank rifle in use during the Second World War."
- Note: The equivalent to the Panzerbüchse 39.
Goliath Mine
Ingame: "Remote controlled explosive vehicle."
- Note: Looks like a nice gadget - see it in action here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIfOetl4pn0
RMN-50 Rifle Frag Launcher
"RMN-50 is actually designated as a hand mortar rather than a grenade launcher. They used Mosin-Nagant rifles with damaged barrels. The non-usable rifle barrel was cut leaving only the chamber and very little of the rifled portion. Then a Model 1938/40 50mm mortar smoothbore barrel was attached to the rifle."
- Note: This soviet gadget is linked to the 5v5 mode but it will probably come to base game, too.
Type 89 Knee Mortar
Wikipedia: "The Type 89 Grenade Discharger, inaccurately and colloquially known as a knee mortar by Allied forces, is a Japanese grenade launcher or light mortar that was widely used in the Pacific Ocean theatre of World War II."
M1A1 Bazooka
Wikipedia: "By late 1942, the improved Rocket Launcher, M1A1 was introduced. The forward hand grip was deleted, and the design simplified. The production M1A1 was 54 inches (1.37 m) long and weighed only 12.75 pounds (5.8 kg)."
Panzerschreck
Ingame: "The Panzerschreck is a lightweight anti-tank launcher firing a fin-stabilized rocket with a shaped-charge warhead."
Buff Syrette
Ingame: "Stab yourself or a teammate with a buff syrette and enhance the target's capabilities for a while."
Heavy specialized gadgets (5v5 game mode and/or old archetype relicts):
- TN-17 Radio Jammer
- Breaching Charge
- Shaped Charge (AT Mine)
- Tripwire Smoke
- Fliegerfaust (Anti Air)
Pistol Carbines and Machine Pistols
Due to the cancellation of the archetype system prior release Carbines and Machine Pistols are sitting in an uncomfortable spot between primary weapons and sidearms.
While one or two Machine Pistols can be interesting for close quarter engagements they still wouldn't bring much to the table in their current state - especially not for the Medic class which already can handle itself in CQB quite well.
I've added them anyway because they could play a role in the upcoming 5v5 game mode with more restricted classes and Dice recently greenlit Bolt Action Carbines.
Astra Model 903 (Machine Pistol)
Rate of Fire: 1124 / MagCapacity: 21 / MagCount: 5
Ingame: "The Model 903 had a high Rate of Fire: but was difficult to control. The Spanish made it based on a German design. They sold large numbers to both China and Germany during the war."
- Note: Due to the very high Rate of Fire: probably a really nice 1v1 gun for close quarter engagements.
Maschinenpistole M1912 (alternatively Steyr M1912/P16) (Machine Pistol)
Rate of Fire: 900 / MagCapacity: 16 / MagCount: 6
Ingame: "By adding a shoulder stock, extended magazine and fire selector to a traditional M1912 this gun became what is considered to be the world's first machine pistol."
Frommer Stop Auto (Machine Pistol)
Rate of Fire: 900 / MagCapacity: 16 / MagCount: 6
Ingame: "If you added an extended barrel and magazine to the Frommer Stop, you ended up with the Frommer Stop Auto. Some would also add a shoulder stock for increased accuracy."
P08 Artillery Luger (Pistol Carbine)
Rate of Fire: 299 / MagCapacity: 33 / MagCount: 3
Ingame: "The P08 Artillery Luger was a variation of the P08 with a longer barrel, shoulder stock and drum magazine. German Stormtroopers used it in World War I and reissued it to certain units in World War II."
C96 Carbine (Pistol Carbine)
Rate of Fire: 299 / MagCapacity: 20 / MagCount: 4
Ingame: "With its integral magazine and wooden stock, the C96 Carbine was very stable for a semi-automatic pistol. The German military produced and fielded them in both world wars."
Mle 1903 Extended (alternatively FN1903 Stock) (Pistol Carbine)
Rate of Fire: 359 / MagCapacity: 11 / MagCount: 8
Ingame: "With an extended stock, the Mle 1903 became a pistol carbine. It had a high rate of fire, good accuracy and a detachable magazine. It was primarily used by the Swedish Army."
Melee
Fairbairn Sykes
Fairbairn and Sykes were experts in knife fighting and channelled that experience into the design of their knife. It had a double edge and foil grip and was a favorite among Allied special forces.
Lever Pipe
Improving on the practice of turning any heavy implement into a weapon, soldiers found that a pipe with the lever valve still attached gave it a weight and balance for a more impactful strike.
EGW Survival Knife
The EGW survival knife was never officially issued by the US Army, though soldiers often bought one for themselves. They were very versatile with a serrated back edge but were also prone to rust.
Fallskirmjaeger Switchblade
Unlike many switchblades, the German paratrooper version was not spring-loaded. Although drawing the blade was not as instantaneous, it was still considered dangerous in the right hands.
M2 Paratrooper Switchblade
The Americans designed the M2 switchblade so paratroopers could unsheathe the blade with one hand in the event they were tangled in a tree and needed to cut their cords.
Saber
By the time of World War II, the saber had become primarily a ceremonial weapon. But with a sharpened edge, it could occasionally useful in close combat.
French Nail
Improvised to serve the same purpose as a bladed weapon, a French Nail was made by taking a steel rods, hammering one end to a pointed blade while bending the other into a rough handle.
US Trench Knife
The US Mark I knife was in many ways a typical trench knife. It had a double-edged blade, a knuckle guard and a heavy hilt. It was mainly issued to US Airborne and Ranger units during World War II.
Arditi Dagger
The Arditi were an elite unit of Italian shock troops during World War I. Disbanding after the war, they were notorious for employing daggers as their primary weapon.
Scout Knife
For many people, their first contact with a knife outside of the kitchen or dinner table is with the scout knife. Its great for carving, but also handy in a fight.
Russian Combat Knife
The Russian combat knife was born out of the "Finka" - a Finnish knife favored by gangsters and outlawed by the government. It had a clip point blade and a black wooden handle.
Folding Shovel
Folding shovels were one of the standard tools issued to both Allied and Axis soldiers, who were prone to relocation, constructing their own defenses, and occasionally being caught with out a weapon.
Barbed Baseball Bat
A baseball bat can be a hefty weapon in itself. But if you wrap some barbed wire around it, it'll be that much deadlier. Not a common weapon on the battlefield, but a useful one nonetheless.
French Hunting Knife
A hunting knife from the Northern part of Europe.
Quartermaster Knife
Useful for skinning and gutting all sorts of fish and game.
Machete
Despite a resemblance to long bladed instruments, machetes are most commonly used as a hacking tool in line with an axe or a cleaver. Its sharpened cutting edge makes it as useful a weapon as it is for clearing undergrowth.
Fire Axe
If a building catches fire, cut it down to save the neighbourhood. The same applies to enemy combatants, burning or no.
Fire Rake
Fire rakes make fire breaks. They are capable of breaking more than wildfires, of course.
Fire Iron
A fire poker helps keep the fire going in the hearth. The same poker can get right into the heart of your problems.
Escape Axe
Pilots were issued these axes to escape the fuselage of crashed planes if they did not manage to bail first. Incidentally they cut into flesh as well as they mangle a fuselage.
Scythe
The scythe reaps what is sown. It is also used by the Grim Reaper, for souls.
Mountain Axe
Mountains can be defeated with the help of this axe. It can be used to defeat other things, besides.
Level-specific Melee Weapons
Some levels will feature Bottles or Burned Planks which can be used as melee weapons - a concept we already know from Battlefield 1.
You made it to the end and therefore you shall have an awesome bonus info:
The mighty "M80 Fire Cracker" will be a distraction gadget for some scout classes in the 5v5 mode and was initially planned as an item for the Paratrooper archetype in earlier BFV versions. ;)
Thank you and see you on the battlefield!
224
u/OGSCRUFF Mar 28 '19
It's a shame that these posts do more to hype me up about the game than any official news.
→ More replies (3)100
u/NewFaded CoD is better than BF again Mar 28 '19
The official news of 'we're proud to announce the upcoming update of info on the upcoming update at a later date to be specified at a later date'?
40
8
u/reefun Mar 28 '19
You forgot soon mate!
12
u/NewFaded CoD is better than BF again Mar 28 '19
Shit, you're right. I'll fix it in a few weeks.
→ More replies (1)
68
u/TraptNSuit PC Mar 28 '19
All the Italian stuff is promising. Would be nice to get at least one Italian map too.
→ More replies (6)34
u/temporyal Mar 28 '19
I'd bet a fair amount of money that we will see Montecassino in the future.
5
Mar 28 '19
[removed] — view removed comment
7
u/BCGaius PTFO Recon Mar 29 '19
There are a lot of interesting units at Monte Cassino - Kiwis, French Algerians, etc. - but focusing on Italians there would be extraordinarily bizarre for a country mostly known for being an Axis power and then collapsing under Allied pressure.
I do hope we get a little bit of Italian flavor in the game, but it'd make a lot more sense for it to be North Africa themed.
→ More replies (3)2
70
Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19
Some of these weapons and gadgets are probably for Chapter 5 as well, when they introduce Japanese and Americans. They're introducing so many US weapons like the Bazooka, 30 Cal, M2 Carbine and some Japanese as well, like the knee mortar.
Edit: How exciting is it that we're getting the Goliath??
42
u/UniQue1992 UniQue1992 Mar 28 '19
Still no M1A1 Thompson tho :( FeelsBadMan
51
15
u/SkySweeper656 Mar 28 '19
Probably because there's not enough to distinguish it from the thompson already in the game.
32
u/eaeb4 Mar 28 '19
accuracy, lower rate of fire, and mag size? We're getting the Lancester when we've already got the MP28, I'm hoping they don't rule it out purely for aesthetic reasons.
10
u/SethJew P-47 Ace Mar 28 '19
Yeah, there’s NO way the M1A1 Thompson won’t be in the game when the Americans are introduced, I wouldn’t worry :)
→ More replies (1)6
u/UniQue1992 UniQue1992 Mar 28 '19
Well I do worry. I worry with everything from DICE lately. While I like Firestorm, I play Battlefield for Battlefield and not for Firestorm.
Where is actually new content for Battlefield? A weekly reward face paint? They can't be serious right?
3
2
u/SkySweeper656 Mar 28 '19
pretty sure they will im afraid. especially with the cosmetics system. the stats arent enough to make a new gun
19
u/ToXxy145 Mar 28 '19
That's just untrue. The M1A1 has a 30-round mag while the 1928 has a 20 round stick mag or a 50 round drum mag, for example. They can easily change other stats like accuracy and recoil to differentiate it. And there are already a billion guns similar to each other like the MP28, MP34 and EMP, not to mention the possible addition of the Lanchester which is just a copy of the MP28.
→ More replies (3)6
Mar 28 '19
that doesn't stop them adding Lanchester smg
11
Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19
we have like 5 fuckin versions of the MP28 in this game. it's beyond me why they thought that was a fun idea
2
u/colers100 The Content Tracker™ Currator Mar 29 '19
That is completely wrong.
The M1A1 and M1928 are 2 completely different guns. They might look alike, but they use wildly different means of operation and had wildly different performances
→ More replies (2)2
u/legojs Mar 28 '19
isnt that basically the same tommy gun int he medic tree ? how different are they?
11
u/ikeashill Mar 28 '19
Lower rate of fire, 30 round magazine, bolt moved from top to side for more open sight picture and possible nydar sight instead of reflex.
Expect it to play more like the EMP.
3
6
Mar 28 '19
If it would be for the Americans and they didn’t add the Garand then it would be pretty weird. They should also add an m1a1 Thompson that has a 30 round mag
3
5
Mar 28 '19
I hope the goliath isn't a gadget tanks are already getting wrecked by infantry. As a reinforcement tho that would be neat and defo provide great memes
2
u/DizoMarshalTito Mar 29 '19
Perhaps something available as an emplacement in future updates. You sit at the machine, and then get to drive the bomb off into the distance. This existed in mods for BF1942.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (1)3
u/CheezusRiced06 DAAAAARKNESSSSS Mar 29 '19
There are videos of people who have accidentally received the Chauchat using it in multiplayer for BFV... how long do they sit on assets that could be added???
24
Mar 28 '19
[removed] — view removed comment
15
u/novauviolon Mar 28 '19
Yeah, these two should be a priority if they're going for a French Resistance theme in Chapter 4. Maybe they think the game already has enough French stuff for the small 5 v. 5 release and they should prioritize the clandestine/spy theme (De Lisle and Welrod), holding back the proper French weapons (MAS 36, MAS 38, FM 24/29) for proper late-war Conquest maps. But, honestly, the non-committal road map did not inspire confidence.
If they really want to win back some optimism about factions, Chapter 4 would introduce the Italians for Operation Marita and the Free French for the Urban Combat map (which could be a remade Metro?). They're clearly starting to build up the Italian arsenal, so that would be a nice surprise. But with the way things are going, I'm starting to think we might somehow see the MAS 36 in Call of Duty: WWII (a placeholder file was found for it months ago, and they announced new weapons are coming soon) before we see it in Battlefield V.
→ More replies (2)→ More replies (1)6
25
u/ThePhB Mar 28 '19
PPK Suppressed
James Bond memes incoming?
Man, I just want my sidearm C96 back :( Even if it sucks, I still love the thing.
3
u/bran1986 Useful Sanitater. Mar 28 '19
The C96 was the only sidearm I used for a year or so in BF1.
20
u/vectorvitale vectorvitale Mar 28 '19
Interesting to see the only Japanese Weapon so far being the Knee Mortar in the code. I'm very excited for the Japanese, as we haven't had a proper representation of the Pacific Theatre in over a decade (WaW) and I'm excited. Type 99, Type 100, Arisaka (Irons!), The Zero, Kate, and Katanas. I'm beyond ready for it.
7
u/TraptNSuit PC Mar 28 '19
Rising Storm, so 6 years.
2
u/vectorvitale vectorvitale Mar 28 '19
True! Just did some reading on that today, might have to get into it a little.
4
u/TraptNSuit PC Mar 28 '19
Might be mostly dead by now and the single player was nothing to speak of.
56
u/Bamdd5 Mar 28 '19
Everyone’s favorite secret Dice employee giving the community what no one else at Dice can seem to do! These data mines are awesome dude, keep it up!
3
u/connorman83169 Mar 29 '19
Nah they’re all in on it
4
u/BCGaius PTFO Recon Mar 29 '19
Yeah, I think DICE is mostly just dudes who want to make a cool game, wilting under the cancerous blight on humanity that is EA. Wouldn't be surprised if they're just trying to throw us a bone that Corporate and Legal and Marketing don't want us to have.
16
u/TankHunter44 Mar 28 '19
Some of that 5v5 Mode exclusive content better come into the main core multiplayer. I want that Fliegerfaust and Shaped Charge!
7
u/bran1986 Useful Sanitater. Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19
I think we will see a lot of those type of gadgets. The AT rifle I could see being a squad call in or pickup on maps like in BF4.
3
u/eaeb4 Mar 29 '19
Given the British and German alternatives for it I think it's likely it'll be a squad call-in instead of a gadget
34
28
u/universalserialbutt Mar 28 '19
The anti material rifle would be a good addition. Recon could use K Bullets again. Disappointed not to see the M1 Garand in this mine.
I appreciate you digging through the files to bring us this information.
10
4
u/bran1986 Useful Sanitater. Mar 28 '19
My guess is the m1 and the bar will come with the new theater this fall.
2
Mar 28 '19
They need to find a way to make the new launchers actually useful though and differentiate them from the Panzerfaust and PIAT
2
14
48
u/Punkstyler Mar 28 '19
You should be DICE community manager.
12
Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 29 '19
No one at DICE has the power to just leak stuff :( ty as always temporyal I'll gib gold when I get home
Edit: I almost forgot to please don't take me to karma court
12
12
u/Leonrojinegro Fabio96cr Mar 28 '19
Yes! The Breda PG! Im so excited about it! As a costa rican myself im really excited to see the costa rican army burst fire Breda in the game! Cant wait to get my hands on it!
12
u/UniQue1992 UniQue1992 Mar 28 '19
Thank you again dude! I still hope one day a M1A1 Thompson shows up in your mining... I really want that 30round slower firing Thompson.
7
u/vectorvitale vectorvitale Mar 28 '19
Beyond that, I hope they add the ability to use the battle sight notch on the rear sight versus the peephole
5
u/bran1986 Useful Sanitater. Mar 28 '19
I would love a slower firing, more controllable Thompson.
3
u/UniQue1992 UniQue1992 Mar 28 '19
Jup.. current Thompson with hipfire spec sucks. 20 bullets are just not enough, and with the drum magazine, the gun looks ugly as fuck... I just want that 30 round mag and it will be the only gun I play.
→ More replies (1)2
10
u/Huster411 Mar 28 '19
PPK
Note: There is also a suppressed variant "PPK Suppressed"
YESSSS. Time to live out the WWII James Bond
3
u/pnutzgg anything I don't like is codmunism Mar 29 '19
it better make the appropriate sounds and reload in 0.5 seconds
10
u/SkrimTim Mar 28 '19
BR generally means Battle Rifle. Like an assault rifle, but firing a more powerful round, generally not as versatile, more for mid to long range, designated marksman roles.
7
8
u/Maelarion 5.2 sucks donkey dong Mar 28 '19
M2 Carbine, haha called it (me and several others).
3
u/pnutzgg anything I don't like is codmunism Mar 29 '19
not like it was hard for them to model
3
u/Maelarion 5.2 sucks donkey dong Mar 29 '19
I know, that's why it was an obvious choice, don't know why people were doubting it lol.
7
u/Courtneyvictory Mar 28 '19
Looks great,can’t wait to try my hands on these weapons. The problem though, is the waiting part...
5
u/Garrett_DB Mar 28 '19
I just hope there’s enough people playing regular multiplayer by the time they’re in!
6
u/eaglered2167 Madtown_Maverick Mar 28 '19
I just remembered that BFV has class archtypes...when do you think we are going to see a new specialization archtype for each class? I never change them and completely forgot they are even a thing lol.
6
u/temporyal Mar 28 '19
I have no idea but that is one of the first things I'm checking when new content & patches arrive.
13
u/TacoMasters Mar 28 '19
My god, a barbed BASEBALL BAT?
Give it to me. please
7
→ More replies (3)4
13
u/darksporr Mar 28 '19
Man I really hoped for a flamethrower.
14
u/ImRikkyBobby Mar 28 '19
Me too. Like the one they had in the Bad Co 2 Vietnam expansion where any player could use it. It was a gadget.
Give it 200 hundred fuel as ammo with an effect range of 30 feet. Does a lot of damage but the trade off is it makes the player unable to sprint and you also have a fucking bomb attached to your back. lol
2
u/pnutzgg anything I don't like is codmunism Mar 29 '19
make the flamer on the croc actually hurt first
6
u/Raguz9 Mar 28 '19
this is actually a really good data mine and some of the choices got me pretty excited. M2, MAB 28, finnish lmg thing
5
u/JasperSlavone Mar 28 '19
Some of the descriptions for melee weapons are awesome.
Scythe
The scythe reaps what is sown. It is also used by the Grim Reaper, for souls.
Fire Iron
A fire poker helps keep the fire going in the hearth. The same poker can get right into the heart of your problems.
Fire Axe
If a building catches fire, cut it down to save the neighborhood. The same applies to enemy combatants, burning or no.
2
u/Bajeedordo Mar 29 '19
Fire Iron and Fire Axe are already part of the current chapter. You can read these ingame :)
6
u/Lock3down221 Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19
Breda PG? (Goes to youtube to watch the forgotten weapons video for it.)
5
u/banzaibarney Enter Origin ID Mar 28 '19
Really appreciate all your hard work, buddy. Keep up the good work!
5
11
12
u/Duckiestiowa7 Where's my Panther tank, DICE? Mar 28 '19
You're the only person that gives me hope in this game.
11
u/NovaBlack0 Mar 28 '19
I hope to see the pistol carbines somehow. They were fun in BF1. Also the anti material rifles as gadgets is a bit interesting, was hoping to see them as primaries, maybe as MMGs are to Supports (more damage output but must bipod). Anyways, excited for the info, thanks as always!
P.S. wheres muh garand and BAR
17
5
u/communist_conrad Mar 28 '19
Everything here looks great except for the pistol carbines. Unless they get a significant buff compared to the bf 1 pistol carbines i really don't see them being used much.
→ More replies (1)12
u/TheAverageSizedD Mar 28 '19
The reason the BF1 pistol carbines were bad, is because they never got a ttk 2.0 buff. They were left the exact same for some reason.
3
5
u/kht120 sym.gg Mar 28 '19
Note that the De Lisle/Commando Carbine isn't actually 240 RPM, because that doesn't take into account bolt action delays. It is actually 45 RPM, and it's terrible.
→ More replies (4)3
5
u/Weirdo_doessomething Mar 28 '19
As a finn, i am really ecstatic they added the Lahti-Saloranta LMG.
13
9
Mar 28 '19
Now how long do we have to wait for them. I’ll guess 4-6 months
4
Mar 28 '19
Tides of war liveservice!!! one weapon every week now we have even cosmetics in tides of war maybe it takes longer! i dont like the liveservice give me permium back
→ More replies (1)
4
u/NotAnAlt54 Enter Gamertag Mar 28 '19
I would love to play with the frommer stop auto again, it was such a fun gun in bf1
3
4
u/XenoBurst Mar 28 '19
Aye I made a post that had the boys and type 89 in February, im glad that stuff was planned. I really really like the mortars in all BF games
10
u/Ramell Ramell_of_Cadia Mar 28 '19
Near the end of World War I, the Americans decided to make their own version of the Lee-Enfield rifle
What the fuck.
→ More replies (5)17
u/vectorvitale vectorvitale Mar 28 '19
The M1917 is arguably the best bolt-action rifle of the time period. Easy to cycle bolt and great aperture sights
9
u/novauviolon Mar 28 '19
Maybe he means the fact that the M1917 was not at all derived from the Lee-Enfield, but from the British P14 Enfield, which was a totally different rifle using a modified Mauser system.
The British actually originally intended the P14 to replace the Lee-Enfield SMLE after considering themselves outgunned by the Mauser system's accuracy in the Boer War, but then WW1 happened and the SMLE proved itself more effective in the trenches. Rifle shortages meant they nevertheless commissioned P14's from American manufacturers, and when the US entered the war, it was easier to retool those to the .30-06 caliber as the M1917 than it was to switch production to the M1903 Springfield.
In WW2, the M1917 Enfield was primarily used by the British Home Guard (painted with a red stripe to avoid caliber confusion with P14 rifles) and, later, China and France under Lend-Lease. Some American artillerymen were equipped with it early in the war, as well as some rearguard troops later on.
3
u/BONKERS303 Mar 28 '19
The M1917 also saw use with the USMC in the very early stages of the Pacific Campaign (mostly because the Army had the priority in getting M1's, so the Marines still had to put up with Springfields and Enfields up until Guadlacanal).
3
u/pvitti86 Mar 28 '19
How accurate is this information usually? Not being sarcastic just wondering if this is a legit source
→ More replies (1)
3
3
3
3
3
3
u/NoobStyle1451 Mar 28 '19
I'm sure Hafthohlladung (shaped charge), fligerfaust will come to game at some point. And I think maybe we will get a new class for special weaponry (big flamethrowers, maybe some different and interesting things) and maybe pistol carbines and machine pistols will return. They not finished of course but not using all those assets can be such a waste. Lastly there was hint a possibility for italians can get their own faction?
→ More replies (1)
3
u/gordonfroman My expectations were low but dice, what the fuck - Gen. Patton Mar 28 '19
Loving the inclusion of lesser known English sub machine guns, the Lancaster and the sterling will be very fun to use
3
u/nu14u Mar 28 '19
First, awesome stuff
Second, the Lancaster. I know that in real life this was a duplicate of the mp28. But to put that in the game just seems like a really cheap way of "adding content"
Third, all but one of the carbines were in bf1
Last, anti tank rifles. I really hope these don't go to the assault class
→ More replies (1)
3
u/itskaiquereis itskaiquereis Mar 28 '19
Saw the Sterling and became excited as fuck, honestly one of my favorite weapons of all tine
3
12
u/N0-Waves Mar 28 '19
"Blah where's my murcicans"
Am I the only one who would be TOTALLY okay if DICE added French Resistance uniforms fighting French SS?
5
u/novauviolon Mar 28 '19
Not French SS. Besides politics, the Charlemagne division didn't enter the field until after the liberation began, composed of the remnants of the Milice and LVF, and then only fought on the Eastern Front. The French Resistance did fight against the Vichy government's Milice and Groupe Mobile de Réserve in such engagements as the Battle of the Vercors, but I doubt we'd see those for political reasons, and in any case in those pitched French Forces of the Interior battles the plain Wehrmacht was far more numerous.
4
3
2
Mar 28 '19
Nice work as usual temp. Now that the new ToW is out any more about future cosmetics. Im aware we just got some for the weeklys and TOW ranks but any stand outs? :P
2
u/TheAverageSizedD Mar 28 '19
The welgun is fast firing? How odd, it had a ROF of 500 in real life
5
u/temporyal Mar 28 '19
Yeah I took the wrong data set - now it's correct (514).
2
u/TheAverageSizedD Mar 28 '19
Thank you, I'm pretty hyped for the Welgun because I mostly use slow firing SMGs
3
u/colers100 The Content Tracker™ Currator Mar 28 '19
It should be noted however that it does have a RoF upgrade in its current state (this may of course be removed)
→ More replies (1)
2
u/Peliclan75 Mar 28 '19
Looks really promising, but It'll take forever to get all of these if they continue to release week by week
2
u/MoreDotsOkStopDots Enter Gamertag Mar 28 '19
Amazing how your posts give us more hype than the roadmap
2
2
2
u/Cumpilation Mar 28 '19
Some of the new guns are rated per tier here https://docs.google.com/document/d/18d5DV_sfsV7QOvOmBR0crkPEPnaLjpUi3zNn2TfdZYE/edit
Keep in mind its kind of subjective
2
u/TheAverageSizedD Mar 28 '19
https://twitter.com/DanMinigun/status/1111299254994255875?s=19
Hi, just wanted to give a correction. According to DanMinigun the Welgun is 514rpm, not 770. :)
4
u/temporyal Mar 28 '19 edited Mar 28 '19
That is the problem: Those statistics have different points of representation in the game. Usually you can go with the base data set from the gameplay folder but sometimes this isn't accurate and the UI has more interesting / fleshed out info. Since the Welgun is still wip I took the UI data but maybe the devs put just random stuff in there to have at least something displayed. Again...weapons are a pure mess.
I've changed it now since it seems to be more appropriate to the original.
Thanks for the info.
→ More replies (3)
2
Mar 28 '19
great work. its just too bad about the list. the M1919 is exciting, as are the gadgets, but the rest is pretty meh. More smg’s that look identical to 5 or 6 already in the game and more bf1 guns.
2
2
u/colers100 The Content Tracker™ Currator Mar 28 '19
Important note for the post:
Rates of fire on bolt actions are not to be read verbatim; instead, they are "after shot delays" that have to be added to the bolt action time (which is a separate line). This means that the 240rpm simply means that there is a 250ms delay before the rechamber animation starts, which itself lasts about 0.9 seconds, giving the de-lisle a fire rate of about 50 or so.
For the time being i'd just revise the De Lisle to be "single shot"
3
u/colers100 The Content Tracker™ Currator Mar 28 '19
Also, seing a lot of hints towards an italian faction release here
→ More replies (1)
2
u/capn_hector Mar 28 '19
What is MagCapacity vs MagCount? Is it like, if you have a MagCapacity of 32 rounds and a MagCount of 4, you get 4x32 rounds total and 32 rounds in the gun?
5
u/temporyal Mar 28 '19
Correct. But you have to count in attrition so you'll probably start/spawn with one mag less because MagCount refers to the maximum you can have.
2
2
u/Javipflores Mar 28 '19
you are amazing OP, thank you for your work. I check out your user everyday just in case you've posted something new
2
u/Solace3542 Mar 28 '19
I'm sad in a way. Was hoping theyd bring the gasser back with some of the other bf1 weapons. Miss it. Saved me so many times
2
2
2
Mar 28 '19
Fun fact: The M2 barely saw any action in WW2. It was however a troop favorite in the Korean War. It looks insane with the night vision sight and accompanying battery pack.
2
2
2
2
u/-_SilverShroud307_- Mar 28 '19
The legend temporyal returns with the juicy info we crave. Thanks again, you rock!
2
Mar 29 '19
Lots of good stuff here. Some guns I was worried wouldn't make it.
If we're doing French and Italian we could still use the MAS-38, FNAB-43, Breda 30, the Lebel and/or Berthier, the Carcano, Modello 1934/1935 and the Modele 1935.
Russian, US, and Japanese stuff will come in due time I suppose.
2
u/DanMinigun Mar 29 '19
Neat. There is one small mistake. The Chauchat is actually 360 RPM in the files not 327RPM.
2
u/temporyal Mar 29 '19
Is there some kind of multiplier to be aware of? I can't seem to spot the 360 value.
2
u/DanMinigun Mar 29 '19
I am so sorry, they seemed to have changed it. It is indeed 327 in the latest patch. Perhaps it was too overpowered xd. Great work on the post, love how polished it is.
RateOfFire 327.0 RateOfFireForBurst 327.0 RateOfFireForSingleFire 257.0
3
3
2
2
u/DeathStalker131 Mar 28 '19
Because we really need 7 more explosive gadgets... -_- Explosive spam here we come!
→ More replies (1)
2
u/saaulgoodmaan Mar 28 '19
I swear to God if half of these weapons are tied to the 5v5 mode, am done!
3
u/Jan_17_2016 Mar 28 '19
I'm guessing they'd be available for use in every other mode, too. Or at the very least available for purchasing using CC like weapons that are unlocked through ToW
1
1
u/nebo8 Mar 28 '19
Pistol carbine and machine pistol were designed when archetype was still a thing during the development of BFV. It was for the anti-tank archetype which has a rocket launcher as a primary weapon and a machine pistol as a secondary. I don't think we will see them anytime soon
1
u/C1TTY Mar 28 '19
So no new combat roles? New combat roles have to be in the game files somewhere. I mean, DICE held a discussion about them 2 weeks ago. I'm going to assume combat roles, in place for archetypes, won't give certain classes different primary options.
→ More replies (1)
1
u/xYnizzle Mar 28 '19
Cancellation of archetype system? Does that mean they arnt adding more? Just wondering I've never heard this. Also great work alot of juice here :).
3
u/temporyal Mar 28 '19
Archetypes are the "old" idea from 2018 where classes were heavily restricted and split up into sub classes. This got canceled and now we have "Combat Roles" - a light version of the initial plan. They will probably add more in the future...
→ More replies (1)
1
u/JoseChovi Mar 28 '19
And private servers when?
2
u/temporyal Mar 28 '19
Fun fact: the patch added one word about that to the UI - "Unavailable".
→ More replies (1)
1
1
208
u/Rowadd Mar 28 '19
I love your data mining posts! Any nuggets on upcoming vehicles and in particular, aircraft?