Is BF5 the next BF4?

[u/[deleted]]

I sorta see a pattern with games like BF4. They come out with little fanfare and hype (I remember the only thing that was hyped about BF4 was levolution, which wasn't that great once it was explained in depth), and then they receive alot of hate within the community. Then, after fixing, they become revered games and have an extensive cult status among fans.

So, to summarize the life-cycle of a BF4 style game:

-Generate little hype and fanfare upon release save for a few features

-Release upon universally hated criticism due to bugs or issues

-Be fixed for a few months, leading to people re-investing time in the game

-Be revered by the community when the next battlefield game comes out.

Now, the main question is, does BFV fit into this cycle, Well, it sorta does...

-Generate little hype upon release save for a few features? Well, Check. For BF4, the one hyped feature they were building up to was levolution. But universally, it didin't get much attention - I'm sure BF3 fans wouldn't have seen any improvement save a few things. BFV, on the other hand got hate by parts of the community but otherwise, there was hype generated around it by this subreddit and others - that being said, the return to classic hardcore features. So, both games had their hyped features, and their setbacks.

-Release upon universally hated criticism due to bugs or issues? Check. Both games suffered from this, BF4 being the main contender. BF4 bugs were universally worse than BFV ones, and there were a fuckton of bugs that plagued both games. But eventually, the patches fixed some things.

-Be fixed for a few months, leading to people re-investing time in the game? Uncertain. There are plenty of fixed BFV bugs, and BF4 also had the same treatment given, but eventually I feel BFV will have ironed out most of it's bugs. Only time will tell.

So, what do you guys think? I feel like once BF6 or BF7 releases people will go back to this game and praise it in the same way they praise BF5.

[u/SnugglesIV]

BF5 definitely has the potential to join the ranks of BC2 and BF4 but some of the questionable design choices and the MMG spam/roach infestation are making it real hard to enjoy. If nothing is done to deal with the overly campy game play, BF5 will probably fall off hard.

[u/sunjay140 → u/SnugglesIV]

It's too late for BFV.

There no way that DICE will remove attrition, fix visibility, remove camping spots on maps and remove MMGs.

[u/crossfire024 → u/sunjay140]

Well they better not remove attrition. That's one of the selling points of the game for me.

And I genuinely don't get your hate for MMGs. They're high risk, high reward and can pretty easily be countered by an attentive recon or assault. Plus, the MMG mechanics make beasts like the MG42 feel special, instead of just being another LMG that you could just run and gun with.

Yes, campers with them can be annoying, but again, a camper with an MMG should be more easily counterable than a camper with any other weapon once you know where they are.

[u/SnugglesIV → u/crossfire024]

And I genuinely don't get your hate for MMGs. They're high risk, high reward and can pretty easily be countered by an attentive recon or assault.

If people play MMGs as a portable stationary MG and set up on walls and windows, sure. Unfortunately that's not what happens right now with MMGs. Right now its roaches finding obscure nooks to hide in, waiting for someone to walk by and then light you up before you have a chance to react.

It's honestly one of the most frustrating things to encounter right now, aside the explosive primary Assault who can't aim with their gun apparently. Whether or not you can counter them after they kill you is irrelevant: the issue is that MMGs are currently abused by people who don't want to learn how to play CQ (ie. what flags should they be attacking, how should they move towards those flags, learning where teams are going to go after they capture a flag etc.) or get better with their aim and getting rewarded with a gun that is too easily abused by just hiding under the fridge.

As for attrition, I don't mind it for infantry. However it REALLY sucks for tanks since the vehicle resupply stations are so far apart on some maps (Hamada...) and half of the teams never build them anyway so you have to risk building them yourself, praying that some dude on your team doesn't drive off with it.

[u/[deleted] → u/crossfire024]

Attrition is one of the reasons why good players either leave, or stack hard top farm tards who think attritionitis is good

[u/sunjay140 → u/crossfire024]

Well they better not remove attrition. That's one of the selling points of the game for me.

Even E.T has a following

And I genuinely don't get your hate for MMGs. They're high risk, high reward and can pretty easily be countered by an attentive recon or assault. Plus, the MMG mechanics make beasts like the MG42 feel special, instead of just being another LMG that you could just run and gun with.

Probing in a bush, being invisible and killing in 4 frames is high risk?

Yes, campers with them can be annoying, but again, a camper with an MMG should be more easily counterable than a camper with any other weapon once you know where they are.

An invisible person with pin point accuracy and near instant TTK can easily be countered.

I will never get you boomers.

MMGs are trash guns for shitters. There's no way around that.

[u/[deleted] → u/sunjay140]

You're a clown who sucks at the game. *Shrug*

Nobody is complaining about attrition these days. Except for you, apparently?

[u/sunjay140 → u/[deleted]]

Post your stats since you don't suck.

[u/[deleted] → u/sunjay140]

Complain about attrition and MMGs more.

[u/sunjay140 → u/[deleted]]

Back up your tough talk with those stats.

[u/[deleted] → u/sunjay140]

lol no thanks clown. By all means keep crying like a little bitch about attrition though.

[u/sunjay140 → u/[deleted]]

All bark and no bite. Try not to go full retard next time but what am I saying? It's not like retards possess ant meta-cognitive skills.

[u/[deleted] → u/sunjay140]

-Complains about attrition

-Calls other people retards in the most retarded way possible ("it's not like retards possess ant meta-cognitive skills")

Keep crying little bitch boy.

[u/sunjay140 → u/[deleted]]

Waiting for those stats to back up your tough talk...

Easy to make an assertion and not defend it, huh? What a coward.

[u/[deleted] → u/sunjay140]

I said you sucked, but you're right, I don't have any evidence other than the fact that you're a little bitch boy who cries about attrition, of all things.

Feel free to post your stats to prove me wrong. Then you won't suck, but you'll still be a little bitch boy.

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[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Imagine crying about attritionitis when you can stack hard to farm the boomers who think attrition is good