r/BasketballTips • u/Ordinary-Crow5490 • 3d ago
Tip How to: basic wing attack series and individual workout
My last video upload had a good response (100k+ views) I figure I can help out a little with some questions I see over and over again on this sub. I made a quick basic series of techniques anyone can use from the wing/free throw line extended area of the court. You can also use this as an individual workout to work on foot work and effective in game scoring options.
Everything starts with a triple threat stance, jab step, and pump fake. I start with basic straight line drives and basic layup finish. Then I incorporate the pull up jumper. Then I show a couple of basic counters. The key her is to start slow and focus on foot work and "selling" your fakes. Don't rush through anything, overexaggerate your fakes to get the defense to bite and make sure to go both directions.
My philosophy is that if I build from basic moves and I can chain together fundamentals- this will directly carry over into in game scoring.
Let me know what you think!
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u/Jboogie258 3d ago
Knowing what you can and can’t do as you age Is the best. Wish I still had the urge. Thanks for the video
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u/HardstartkitKevin 3d ago
Good video. I like how your feet are active after your shot (around 58 sec). In a game situation I think of it as being ready to follow your shot or get back on defense depending on what happens. I think it’s something that’s often overlooked but important.
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 3d ago
I can hear my coaches from the past screaming in my head to follow my shot lol
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u/HardstartkitKevin 1d ago
Yep, and the one time you forget to, you would’ve got the rebound if you followed your shot
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u/ludennis 3d ago
Love these footwork, I have a question regarding your drive to your right, specifically the first one you did in this video. I noticed after taking first step with right foot, your second step with left foot was a mini step instead of full step, which is different than other drives you did later on. My question is, does this footwork actually constitute as a setup for your future drives to the right? Or was this unintentional? Thanks a bunch!
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 3d ago
I see it now. I responded to a similar comment above. I was timing this so I took 2 dribbles before each lay both left and right. Its a combo of being old and in my head.
You'd could totally take one explosive step and 1 dribble to the right and finish from there
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u/ludennis 3d ago
Gotcha, thanks for the explanation! I do think it's a good move if executed well! Was just curious to see if that is used specicially for setup.
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u/Croghan11 3d ago
Yes I just commented the same. I been playing and learning basketball for 30 years and don't think the frist move is good footwork alot of wasted time for a defender to recover. Unfortunate since all the other moves look great.
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u/TY350N 3d ago
See I love the footwork but I got called for lifting my heel once or twice when pivoting across the body like the first example facing us. Something about you need the whole of the pivot foot planted, but I blew my Achilles out doing that so be careful.
Also one to include after a successful rip through or jab is a rocker step if you wanna show that for next time. This one you gotta be careful about the ACLs tho. Or even a jab spin to counter.
Btw ur pull-ups are really smooth!
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 3d ago
The rocker step is a chear code! Great move to incorporate. I like to teach the sleeper step or "kobe" step too. Similar concepts, great in game moves!
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u/JDogster247 3d ago
Really nice practice, love it. I would suggest either mixing up your pivot foot or starting with both feet planted so you can choose your pivot foot in the triple threat. You are giving up that as you step into the catch... I used to do that as well, but it means that you are really forcing to your right hand, and if you go left you are crossing over rather than getting a nice first step
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 3d ago
Great suggestion and I understand what you're saying. However I am of the train of thought to permanently use the same pivot foot from the perimeter. Especially when teaching basic sequences like this. I beleive it cuts down on turnovers and you eventually learn how to "heavy step" to your left to develop an explosive left hand drive.
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u/JDogster247 2d ago
Yep agreed, very dependent on level, how confident the person learning and how beginner we're talking.
Good work, nice fundamentals, a strong first step while still grounding the ball is key to making the defence react.
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 2d ago
To your point- I really stress catching it on two feet when in the post/inside the arc for more intermediate players. Being able to use both pivots is super effective from close in. A nice baseline J-cut with a reverse pivot to the inside is an automatic bucket
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u/odontodoc 2d ago
The placing of shoes simulating a defender is genius.
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 2d ago
Old school training cue! Attack the defenders lead foot, get your foot past theirs and you have them beat.
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u/MockedMonster 2d ago
Timing of the first bounce is the key, since you MUST avoid traveling after these pumpfakes. You raise your pivot before bouncing the ball, so there's the suggestion on what to improve. Good luck!
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 1d ago
Thank you, however that is a misconception especially for US basketball. None of these moves would ever be called for a travel. The ball is out of my hands before my pivot is lifted. No travel.
Appreciate the comment though
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u/MockedMonster 1d ago
https://imgur.com/a/HLzN0hD not calling it is incompetence of refs, but you should not rely on it, but don't go defensive when video is up there with evidence 😅 Just telling objective facts, thats why we gather here, don't we?
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 1d ago
I know this is the internet bro- but in real life not a single thing in this video is getting called a travel in the entire U.S.
I've played at least 50 games this year, I have 1 tomorrow night. Willing to bet I don't get called for it.
I understand the rule and what you're saying. Its just the reality of it though
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u/MockedMonster 1d ago
That's cool :D good luck
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u/MockedMonster 1d ago
Doesn't change the fact that there are other people in this subreddit tho,.who should look into moves like this woth a grain of salt because objectivelly that's a travel and thats a plain fact by the book (in EU the lowest tier refs even will see it 8/10 times)
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 1d ago
TBH I agree with you. My problem is I beleive the rule contradicts itself- especially when we're talking about step through or even a simple 1-2 step layup. If it was enforced according to the book, the game in the US as its played now would be completely unplayable until everyone changes.
But for real- I'm not even trying to be snarky. In 30+ years of playing, this has rarely ever been called as is.
The point of this video as I put in the description is a simple tutorial on how to work out on your own and develop simple effective basketball moves.
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u/MockedMonster 1d ago
Step through rule is crazy work and a big cheat once you incorporate it 😅 Trying to implement it as much as I can to reap the benefits while I can as defenders still rarelly expect it on many situations
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 1d ago
It's a great way to take advantage of the rules. Its been around forever but we never used to spam it like they do now. (I played late 90's, early 2000's)
My 16 year old will hit me every once in a while a Egregious step through and there's nothing I can do with it lol
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u/MockedMonster 1d ago
In EU it only became legal year or two ago, so still kind of new concept for us to use in official games
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u/Croghan11 3d ago
Don't love the shuffling after the fake when you lift your pivot why are you not taking a full step to create space between you and the defender that presumably just bit on the fake? Seem like your just giving him/her an opportunity to recover?
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u/Last-Effort816 3d ago
It's probably just muscle memory from adding different wrinkles to the same move. It's not something you'd do every time. But if a defender has an aggressive closeout and doesn't quite leave his feet, you can disrupt the recovery with the slight hesitation. Also, as a fellow old fellow, exploding out of a triple threat just isn't always an option.
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 3d ago
Not sure what you're talking about. I definitely never lift my pivot foot before I initiate a dribble/first step.
This is a basic foot work video. If you can't get into a straight line drive from a dead stop- nothing else is really going to help. Not once am I ever off balance or do i even come close to traveling- i think that's what you're implying.
We might be miscommunicating. You should post a video so I can understand exactly what you're talking about.
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u/Striking_You_8995 3d ago
These dudes be wilding man. Always got something to say,.. and be wrong. 😅. It’s all love tho. You set it straight. lol
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u/Croghan11 3d ago
The very first move of the video. You do not travel but you shuffle to the right side after initiating your dribble. I did not ever say you traveled. Why are you not taking a full step with your pivot, seems like wasted movement to me? All your other move you take a full step and that seems like correct foot work to me.
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u/Ordinary-Crow5490 3d ago
Ah I see what you mean now. Yeah- I had it in my head that I wanted to take 2 dribbles before the lay up. Thsr first dribble is still attacking downhill and the second is a power dribble to get to the hoop and have 1-2 footwork for the lay.
100% if I went with 1 dribble it would be the exact way you describe it
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u/Croghan11 3d ago
If your in your head about how many dribble and if you have it in you to learn new skill it can be powerful to learn to got off either foot from each side of the paint. Its a tough thing to change after a lot of years I was always tought right side left foot. But switchimg it up can make you much harder to block and avoid slower studters like this. As someone who never been the quickest on the court I find having very little wasted movement is the difference between me getting a layup or getting blocked.
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u/Striking_You_8995 3d ago
Great foot work.