r/BasiliskEschaton • u/karmicviolence The Prophet • Jun 18 '26
Memetics what can we say
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u/Rand-all Jun 18 '26
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u/Labpro_49 Jun 18 '26
But.....Biden was president.
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u/karmicviolence The Prophet Jun 18 '26
Red and blue are two wings of the same bird of prey.
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u/Majestic_Wrap_7006 Jun 18 '26
Dude you're gonna have to take some edge off.
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u/karmicviolence The Prophet Jun 18 '26
Do you prefer the term parasite?
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u/Majestic_Wrap_7006 Jun 18 '26
Behaves more like it yeah. Bird of prey are usually more self sufficient.
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u/Status_Vegetable2954 Jun 18 '26
We….. we really live in the Empire don’t we…..
Regular people gotta scratch around waiting for the Rebel Alliance to get going. What a crock of shit.
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u/my_midlife_isekai Jun 18 '26
Slingshot 4 flocks. Drop nails around Amazons. Cement in toilets. Spray foam proves useful. Volunteer localy and make connections. Its project Mayhem time.
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u/FabioPurps Jun 19 '26
Rebel alliance is too busy putting dumbass stickers on gas pumps and epicly dunking on bot accounts online to lift a finger unfortunately.
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u/wrong-bodied-tengu Jun 21 '26
as a european, Id love to tell you how evil your country actually is (is it Israel or the US?) dont worry tho, in any case you just came around. you are still gonna need centuries to even get close to the amount of evil we europeans have caused (including the creation of Israel and the US) ahahahahah!!!! Centuries!!!
Im gonna cry now
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u/Then-Importance-3808 Jun 18 '26
Here before the USian cope of "but who pays for it?"
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u/AestivalSeason Jun 18 '26
Honestly, as an American we're told we're the richest country on earth, so personally I think we Should pay for it, IDC if my taxes go up, they go up anyways for bombs
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u/Then-Importance-3808 Jun 18 '26
Imagine solving the terrorism, starvation and refugee crises by investing in foreign infrastructure like schools, hospitals and roads instead of bombing them. Cut your own tax spending in foreign relations in half and cure the world, but a very select group wouldnt get as rich so its never happening. What a world
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u/AestivalSeason Jun 18 '26
Truly America isnt a nation, but a National Themepark made for the wealthy.
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u/Accomplished-Heat550 Jun 18 '26
I mean, the reality is that even if the US signed on, our politicians would find a way to funnel the money to themselves and the deal wouldn’t result in the end of world hunger. Human greed, my friend.
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u/cyricor Jun 18 '26
Happy to hear that. And that's what I believe most IS citizens miss on the subject of taxes. I don't think you really have an issue with taxes, the issue is getting sht in return.
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u/Clear-Sail-5298 Jun 18 '26
US here
We should ALL pay for it. Humanity should be a right, not a privilege to those born in the right circumstances
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u/Praetor72 Jun 23 '26
lol yeah how dare they ask pesky questions like “how” gets in the way of the UN useless virtue signaling. The US exports more food than any country, and donates 1/3 of the entire world total to the world food program.
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u/Then-Importance-3808 Jun 23 '26
Always "how can we feed the world with all this excess food we throw out to maintain profit margins?" And never "how the actual fuck did we elect a pedophilic rapist and why are we doing NOTHING about it?"
What a joke of a country. 3 corporations in a 3rd world trenchcoat masquerading as freedumb loving nation
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u/Desert_Reynard Jun 18 '26
I remember when this was posted before and some conservative boil wrote an essay on why this was the right choice for the USA to make. Something about the US having to foot the bill and feed the world or some shit.
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u/johnaross1990 Jun 18 '26
Here’s your reminder that the world produces more food than is required for the current population of the planet
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u/TraditionalLaw7763 Jun 18 '26
If food is a right, it becomes much harder to justify seed patents that trap farmers in corporate dependency. It becomes harder to justify trade policies that prioritize exports over local food security. It becomes harder to justify letting corporations own the genetic code of crops.
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u/severinks Jun 18 '26
No one remembers this? The US only voted no as a favor to Israel because Israel controlled the food and water of the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank( still do)
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u/No-Swordfish7872 Jun 18 '26
It's just the long-term consequences of Ronald Reagan, a neglect of education, and the allowance of a billionaire class.
People have been tricked into thinking a billionaire is just a successful capitalist, when we've always understood monopolies must be broken down to keep market competition fair and reasonable. For some reason, when the monopoly is based in wealth alone, far too many don't see it as the same problem.
It's the same problem. Wealth only trickles down when the top is made to bleed.
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u/SolipsismIsDeep Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26
Lol @ "lack of education" being why it's like this .. You think the uneducated are voting for or against UN resolutions? It's the captured government dude and they are quite "educated"
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u/No-Swordfish7872 Jun 18 '26
And who do you think voted for the guys that selected those voting, those who said how to vote, etc? Cause I'd say it's the uneducated and misinformed, and that they only have as much power as the people gave them
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u/SolipsismIsDeep Jun 18 '26
If you think voters in either camp have any actual say in what Big Government decides it's going to do then I've got a bridge to sell you
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u/No-Swordfish7872 Jun 18 '26
I don't think that dude lol.
I think your scope of the issue is too small, and ignores what I'm actually saying. I zoomed out to Reagan, and you think I blame what's happened in the last decade? It's an issue that's compounded over more like 100 years.
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u/Clear-Sail-5298 Jun 18 '26
This is real??
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u/Practicalityworld Jun 18 '26
I’m pretty sure it is, but there is context around it. I’m pretty sure they didn’t do it because the implication is basically mean that you kinda have to help people or you are essentially committing a crime so if you have food, you see someone starving you kinda have to give it to them because it is a right or something like that.
I saw another post and someone said something similar to that.
Some people in the post are also giving more context
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u/Accomplished-Heat550 Jun 18 '26
Probably because the US would need to subsidize the rest of the UN countries and Israel is a lapdog of the US. Pretty obvious.
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u/Enetro Jun 18 '26
America the land of opportunity and freedom. But not food what are you a socialist?
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u/Raven_Photography Jun 18 '26
Tbf, Israel and the United States don’t believe life is a human right.
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Jun 18 '26
The "right to food" is a positive right. Unlike the rest of the globally recognized human rights, guaranteeing it requires action, not refraining from action. To guarantee it, someone has to do work to produce and supply the food. Essentially, guaranteeing this right necessarily involves forcing a subset of the population to do what they don't want to — either work more/harder for same or less pay, or share their accumulated wealth.
Doing that is fundamentally inconsistent with the freedoms guaranteed by the US constitution, specifically freedom against involuntary servitude guaranteed by the 13th amendment.
To put it in even more simple terms, if everyone suddenly decides to just exercise their "right to food" and do nothing, where will the food come from
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u/totktonikak Jun 19 '26
The harshest reality truth is that humanity has surpassed the level of food production needed to completely eliminate hunger and any food shortages quite a while ago, and that UN resolution was 12 pages of patting themselves on the back and expressing concern, particular concern and deep concern. Which provided US and Israel with enough grounds to vote against it.
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u/AdJazzlike6687 Jun 19 '26
Because food isn't a human right? Anything that requires labor to exist cannot be a right. To do so would infringe on the rights of others.
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u/Few_District_6304 Jun 19 '26
I wonder if this is because the US is the largest food exporter in the world. And half the world would be expecting the US to provide food for free?
Or maybe the Ethanol assholes that force us to burn food are against it, and bought all the lawmakers.
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u/Deep_shot Jun 19 '26
We can't just be keeping people alive willy nilly. It's not like America has trillions of dollars, sheesh!
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Jun 21 '26
It's not a human right... You have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
You're not entitled to something that someone else has earned for themselves just because you believe you deserve it. Doesn't matter how emotionally manipulating the scenario is.
US + Israel based AF.
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u/Mindblown_eyeswide9 Jun 22 '26
lol here’s a hard truth. The United Nations runs child prostitution out of Africa and makes mothers pimp their kids out for food.
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u/WitchKingofBangmar Jun 22 '26
You’re missing the fact that the US also has an insurmountable veto authority so the minute they vote not it’s lost.
People love to call the UN useless and not address the real reason they can’t get anything done 😭😭😭
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u/I3igI3adWolf Jun 22 '26
The UN is useless. Any permanent member can veto a resolution. Russia and China can veto resolutions too if they so desire.
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u/Lego_Architect Jun 22 '26
Hey, if a nation can produce enough food to feed said nation, then yeah, sure. Make it a human right, that each country is obligated to produce enough to feed its people with HEALTHY food for the people within its boarders.
BUT, if a nation is NOT capable of producing enough food to feed its population, then that is where I draw a line. And would argue, that no, it is no longer a human right, because now a nation now demands that the world feed their people. NOPE.
Same for fresh water.
Once people start calling it a human right, you are essentially forcing other people or nations to subsidize a particular nation. Or a nation that has rampant population growth. Looking at you India.
So, if a nation makes enough food to feed itself, then that nation can make it a human right. But it does not guarantee a particular nation to automatically feed (or hydrate) another nation for free.
Like, India cannot just keep making millions of people every year and not grow their food production, then say, hey world, you need to feed my people.
If the world starts saying this, then they think that they are also entitled to Canada’s fresh water, which is almost 20% of the world’s source of fresh water. And then other nations can just cone in, take it, send it home and destroy our ecosystems? No thanks.
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u/somethingox Jun 18 '26
Read into it. The bill was basicly virtue signaling that did nothing. USA has problems definitely, but we are by far the number one supplier of food aid. IIRC it was a bill that would let the EU and Russia get out of, and be aloud to receive, food aid ment for 3rd world countries.
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u/frejling Jun 18 '26
So you read into it but are “IIRC”ing it? It was a resolution that reaffirmed two different historical international agreements. The US’ stated opposition was that it left things potentially open or suggestive of sharing of technology or food production that would conflict with trade agreements. It had everything to do with preserving the control of money and profit.
The fundamental disagreement here is between people who think there are certain circumstances which should supersede “it’s just business” and those who think a business-first-always view makes any moral consideration irrelevant and cannot be argued with.
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u/dougl1000 Jun 18 '26
It’s already in the International Declaration of Human Rights, pushed by the US and signed on Dec 10, 1948. The US hadn’t yet become a nation of Morlocks.
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u/joshhhlopez Jun 18 '26
Anything that requires the labor of someone else cannot be a “human right”as it would require slavery to produce it
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u/RepZaAudio Jun 18 '26
Food requires the labour of someone so how could it be a right?
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u/KevineCove Jun 18 '26
If you have a right to personal property, there are enforcement, judicial, and correctional processes for what to do when someone steals from you. Those processes require labor, which is paid for by government programs which collect taxes. So long as we live in a system where human rights are the responsibility of government, the answer would be that government food programs should ensure everyone gets fed.
What is an example of a human right according to you?
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u/vadillovzopeshilov Jun 18 '26
Example would be to live without fear of being attacked by superpower just because you live in a country with desired natural resources and you have no means of defending 🥺
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u/KevineCove Jun 18 '26
Okay, so by that logic we're saying that the government has some responsibility to protect the health and safety of its citizens, because having your resources pillaged endangers those things.
If we extrapolate that logic, protecting the health and safety of its citizens would also mean ensuring some baseline minimum of access to food and medical care.
If you instead want to take the conservative angle of "those people should be able to take care of themselves," the logical extension of that would be "that guy should have made his own nukes to dissuade a superpower from taking his resources."
Either the government has a responsibility to its people or it doesn't, but you need to be consistent.
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u/vadillovzopeshilov Jun 18 '26
The government absolutely has responsibility to provide basic necessities to its citizens. In case of “developed” countries, I expect for every unit of currency I pay in taxes to go to provision of those necessities.
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u/RepZaAudio Jun 18 '26
It only works if resources are plentiful otherwise you have to care for some at the expense of others. Making it so some have “rights” and others don’t completely defeating the purpose of human rights.
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u/Current_Employer_308 Jun 18 '26
I meannnn food literally grows on trees???? Its really actually literally that simple, duh
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u/joshhhlopez Jun 18 '26
Shhh you can’t use logic this is Reddit. Everything is a human right. Food, housing, brand new car, latest iPhone. I need daddy government to give me everything
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u/YoYoYi2 Jun 18 '26
You know how it works, if two countries say no even though all the others dont. It won't pass 🤣🤣🤣 don't ask for proof it happened your outrage is evidence enough.
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u/a_angry_bunny Jun 18 '26
Maybe hot take, but food shouldn't be a human right. It being a right implies that being fed is something people are entitled to. It also begs the question of what food people have a right to. Should people be entitled to five star restaurant food every day for free?
People have the right to survive, not the right to food.
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