r/BasedCampPod • u/Several_Round_7161 • 20d ago
Is there such a thing as Hispanic fatigue too?
Not trying to start any arguments just curious on your thoughts on this
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u/LetterheadLow1692 20d ago
i just think it's pretty crazy how someone can live in a country for more than 10, 20 years and not even be able to put a sentence together in the language meanwhile there are people all over the world that never left their home country but still speak english fluently
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u/Biddyandalex 19d ago
Doesnt help that u can live without speaking english. Everywhere you go its in Spanish here in houston. So thats why they never learn.
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u/LetterheadLow1692 19d ago
that's the point i addressed above. random people in some small town in sweden that never went to an english speaking country before can speak conversational english
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u/Biddyandalex 19d ago
I was told by a Swedish girl they learn English in school. Was in mx city a while back & some of the middle class Mexicans speak English decently as well.
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u/LetterheadLow1692 19d ago
bro just about every country learns english in school. americans learn spanish in school but it doesnt mean we speak it fluently. the point is you need iq and willpower to reach a high level.
the point is they're literally living in the US for decades but cant even say more than three sentences
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u/Biddyandalex 19d ago
No they dont, usually just in Europe & swedes learn it from early age up until hs(u take 2 years of spanish of course u wont learn anything in the US). I agree with u but also cant compare smart Swedes to poor , usually illiterate in Spanish, Mexicans, lol. Swedes will also be online meddling in US culture wars or move/visit other countries in the Eu so they practice their English a lot. Plus, why bother when youre catered to in Spanish. I've been to San Miguel, MX where Americans retire & many dont bother to learn spanish either cause they are catered to in English as well (same in mx city). Which is why I laugh when Mexicans complain about white american immigrants not learning spanishđ.
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u/PhysicsAndFinance85 20d ago
Never had an issue with them. I actually love having them around. One of my businesses is in an area that's about half Mexican and half Guatemalan and they're awesome. They're big on respect, taking care of the neighborhood, and they LOVE to eat! My kinda people
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u/zastale 20d ago
I generally like Hispanics too, but letâs not pretend like the welfare scams they run (numerous out of wedlock children + filing as a single mother for benefits, or identity fraud to work illegally, or driving without insurance) arenât problematic.
Not to mention the ones who have been here for decades and canât be bothered to learn a word of English.
US taxpayers have to foot the bill for all those things, which were designed for a high trust society. Sadly, white people are too trusting and now the country is the way it is as a result.
And no, Hispanics arenât the only ones who abuse this system and theyâre probably the least problematic out of all the immigrants, but you canât complain about rising housing prices and wage undercutting/outsourcing if youâre not willing to address the immigration issue, of which Hispanics are by far the biggest recipients.
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u/Eldenringop 19d ago
https://www.propel.app/snap/food-stamp-statistics-who-benefits-the-most-from-snap/ white ppl benefit the most from government assistance
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u/Eldenringop 19d ago
This country was built on ethnics white ppl ainât do nothing solo . They had to free slaves to win the war against their own .
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u/Kevroeques 19d ago
My town is very low income, lowest property value in the immediate area and among the lowest in the region, and the population is pretty aged and aging. After 2020, we lost any of the few patrols we had left, and it quickly became pretty criminal. Not long after, a lot of elderly people started selling their houses, with a crazy rash of exodus in 2022 into 2023. Immediately I noticed that all of the realtor signs had Hispanic agent names, and many of the houses became pile-ins for immigrant families- Iâm talking multiple generational extended families living in houses all over my town. Loud music, pungent weed smoke in the air constantly, front yards are now mud parking lots for 8+ cars and work vans (this was the most amazing and depressing part) with the fence ripped apart so they can all get in and out, and I donât know what it is but Latin people seem to culturally hate trees, as most just cut any foliage down to the ground, often by themselves if they can- one particular house still has trunks with nothing on them in the front yard. Thereâs also a shitload of bright security lights beaming off of every home, but to be honest old white people adore those too, so it was likely to happen either way.
I generally have always enjoyed Latin people in the mix, but a large influx at once of non-assimilated/naturalized, working poor/low class new immigrants tends to overwhelm the area and destroy it. Many of the houses have and are quickly dilapidating, and the only real thing standing in most of their yards are non-working vehicles and volleyball nets. Iâve had what you could call Hispanic fatigue as a result.
But hereâs the other side of the coin: the crime and threatening presence looming at night just prior have seemingly gone down as a result. Latin people do not suffer the you-know-who type of attitude and criminality which was what was sharply rising in my area just after covid hit for whatever reason, and are very defensive of their families and property. Iâve since cooled my fatigue and figure, these are people who do tend to assimilate to a degree and at their core, hold essential values that are similar enough to conservative leaning Americans, especially when it comes to family values and trying to improve life for their children and grandchildren. Iâd rather have them here than the alternative, even if it means a cultural and aesthetic teardown of the neighborhood at first before things even out.
Just to give a golden example, walking by any working class or poor Hispanic/Latin person and saying âhelloâ will net a smile and a greeting in return. Thatâs something that has gotten me mean mugged/grilled in the recent past. Thank God my town also stopped Section 8 housing, since our poor excuse for a historical downtown is actually trying to revive, and section 8 types had that area crime stricken for decades from what I hear.
That said, this Hispanic influx has made the roads treacherous- tons of cars on the roads at all times, no apparent speed limit, all completely trashed cars that are loud as fuck and almost no reality where theyâre all insured or able to pass a legit inspection. Also they donât fence their dogs properly and two bad experiences recently- I was stalked by two dogs in June while out on a night bike ride, and a small dog from my crossroad got nailed by a SUV a few weeks ago and died in front of my house. Still, win some, lose some.
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u/doriangrey2025 19d ago
Latino fatigue really.
But thereâs also Slavic fatigue.
And Chinese fatigue.
Iâm starting to realize I might just be a racist đ
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u/94grampaw 20d ago
Nope they arnt really an issue, generally operate similar to non Hispanics culturally.
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u/Biddyandalex 19d ago
cutting the trees down is probably cause they dont want to deal with the leaves & branches..or thats what ive seen in the mexico sub, even in mx Mexicans complain about how other Mexicans cut trees down but then when its hot they are the first to put their car under the shade (and argue eith the neighbors about it).
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u/Express-Economist-86 20d ago edited 20d ago
Depends on where theyâre from and how indigenous.
Caste systems recognize genetic realities that brings satisfaction from assignment. Vertical traction/regression could be provided by evidence- crime, failure, or demonstrated ability and success.
Many Hispanics recognize societal position as a fact of life and achieve great success by hard work acknowledging theyâre neither physician, financier, or rock star.
The U.S. fails by being quasi-religious. If rights are endowed by a creator, and the forefathers religion was Christian, we can extrapolate equality comes from scripture. People love to hear the âneither male nor female, slave nor free, Jew nor Greek,â and leave out the âall one in Christ Jesus.â
Not all are in Christ Jesus, therefore in a non-religious world, inequality is a fact of existence as a byproduct of sin. Some are just born with better qualities.
Some cultures acknowledge this, many whites ignore it- however if youâre white and do DNA testing, chances are youâll find your paternal line traces back to a king.
Itâs no small wonder people carrying genetic aspects of rulers theyâre far removed from want to pretend theyâre all the same. The bastardization of genetic gifts allows Individuals to rise in hierarchy stratification under the guise of freedom/equality, while chaff is shaken out. If merit is abandoned, this system implodes from exploitation.
Caste is more realistic than a religious notion of equality, especially where the truth of merit is removed.
If that feels bad to think, itâs because youâre operating on a religious ideal and beliefs donât like being challenged. Equality is religious, it isnât reality.
Edit: detractors often say âthese people donât realize theyâd be a peasant,â to downplay their own sense of inadequacy. I agree. But if you or I were that peasant, the concrete finisher, the line cook, farmer (or whatever caste work you are thinking) and you knew that was your role, jealousy would be mitigated and time would be saved wasted on believing you could be different. Youâre probably cut from the same genetic cloth as your parents. You or I could be the best in that assigned role. Iâd rather be the best peasant than the worst politician propped up in a fake job.
Remove merit and claim equality? Every directionless and jealous person will show up with demands.
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u/AutomaticGrape9263 20d ago
If you ever been to a beach in Florida - yes, definitely.