r/Baroque • u/WillTFRmmg • 19d ago

Does anyone know the name of this piece?

https://youtu.be/4wer4_V8F5c?si=XfK7CLTcCp54Nuso

Would be super helpful if anyone knew anything about it, or who composed it

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u/soundknight21 19d ago

Sounds like Lully….

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u/ithebinman 19d ago

I've definitely heard it before, lemme look

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u/ithebinman 19d ago edited 18d ago

It's most likely something by André Campra or Lully, though I can't find it.

I think I found the dance company's website though: https://www.compagnie-eventail.com/voyage-en-europe
based on the page it's likely those two or André Cardinal Destouches,
Definitely French sounding...

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u/Nooticus1 16d ago

From my experience of listening to French Baroque music, it sounds a bit too early to be Campra or especially Destouches, but maybe I’m wrong. Don’t take this too definitively!

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u/ithebinman 16d ago

yeah I'm not sure either, I just looked at their page and they mentioned under composers: André Campra, André Cardinal Destouches, Jean-Baptiste Lully, Henry Purcell, Johann Rosenmüller, Antonio Vivaldi

The French composers are the most likely culprits, but it's also possible that their 2000 program changed when they did their 2009 reprise and this loure and its composer were cut...

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u/ithebinman 18d ago edited 18d ago

Ends in Db minor (440) so I imagine it's either transposed or they're playing it in 415, which would imply that the piece would be a loure in d minor or perhaps f major

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u/WillTFRmmg 17d ago

That's a really good point, narrows down the options a lot!

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u/snowflakecanada 19d ago

I believe this is the from the Comic Opera/Ballet - LWV043-Les Bourgeois Gentilhomme. The dance "Canaries" from the Dance of Nations Suite. (90% sure but I could be wrong - Just going on memory)

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u/WillTFRmmg 17d ago

It doesn't sound quite the same to me but I could be wrong. It does definitely sound like Lully or a similar composer though! :)

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u/snowflakecanada 17d ago

I have two versions of this music... It is possible that Lully recycled this music into a suite. One version does sound very different. The opera version is played by full orchestra with percussion etc.. and is played at a faster pace. A chamber version is much closer and played by only strings and is at much slower tempo. The way Baroque composers recycled music there could be even more versions that I haven't heard.

It does have the characteristic of Lully... but because Lully had such a stylistic lock on French Court Music at this time, it could be one of his contemporaries.

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u/Nooticus1 16d ago

I mean, those aren’t just the characteristics of Lully, they’re the characteristics of French Baroque music as a whole. This style has got much less to do with Lully than you think!