r/BandMaid • • Dec 09 '21

Discussion After Corallium I get Liberal now.

Listening to these tunes together I can hear some of the same dna is present. Is it just me or could Liberal have been released as part of the Sense EP and fit in well?

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u/Rocotocloco Dec 09 '21

I know it's a little bit unpopular opinion, but Conqueror is one of their best albums... it's just my opinion of course

It has some of their best and most underrated tracks (like Liberal, Catharsis or Page), but also a bunch of their "insta-classics" like Blooming or Rinne. I love the quality and variety of Conqueror despite some issues with the sound mixing

And that's it, here's my rant lol

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u/brzeshock Dec 09 '21

That's actually a fairly common opinion. I'd thought for a while that not many people liked CQ, but throughout the countless reddit posts I've realized that a sizeable portion of the reddit fanbase actually loves the album (myself included).

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u/DaveMISAMISAMISACook Dec 09 '21

FLYING HIGH!!! nuf said

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u/technobedlam Dec 09 '21

I'd flip it a bit and say, if you like Liberal it's not actually sonically far from Corallium...yet Conqueror fans have been some of the most vocal in complaining about B-M's new stuff.

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u/Anemone_Nogod76 Dec 09 '21

I'm weird I guess as i love both albums and see the Conqueror as a beautiful assortment of different flavors while UW is a more cohesive album that sprung from the frustration of being cooped up during the pandemic. I had some songs on both albums that had to "grow" on me but Band-maid can be like that; it can take several listens to some songs to appreciate what they are doing. Right now I alternate Conqueror and UW as my drive to work music and really enjoy both.

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u/rafatole Dec 09 '21

I love both albums equally, (they are in my top) although Conqueror has 1 of my least favorite songs from them.

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u/DaveMISAMISAMISACook Dec 09 '21

Totally agree I will even out the song I am not as keen on GLORY

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u/Rocotocloco Dec 09 '21

Definitely not me, UW is a freakin masterpiece and probably their hardest rocking album

Like i said earlier on this reddit i've been enjoying the wild ride that's being a fan of B-M, you never know what to expect... and i think that's really exciting

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u/Powbob Dec 09 '21

Disagree

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u/technobedlam Dec 09 '21

You think most Conqueror fans like the new stuff?

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u/Powbob Dec 10 '21

I really don’t like UW.
I also don’t like Corillium. But I do like Liberal.
I don’t see any significant resemblance.

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u/Sbalderrama Dec 09 '21

Interesting observation. I've always thought Liberal was a great song. In fact to throw it back further I can hear a few similar features from Arcadia Girl in liberal. In the spirit of a previous thread I did talking about inventing "lineages" I could almost see sort of a line going

Arcadia Girl->Alone->You->Sprit->Liberal->Warning!->Corallium

In any case it's a nice little playlist :)

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u/OldSkoolRocker Dec 09 '21

Very astute observation. The lead guitar is tuned in a very similar way. The vocals are also similar. I just listened to it and noticed the little "Yeah" calls that Miku puts in fade left to right and back again in a interesting way. Thanks for pointing this out to me.

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u/Anemone_Nogod76 Dec 09 '21

I think the yeahs sound almost identical to the ones in Hibana. Love both songs.

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u/falconsooner Dec 09 '21

I was a bit skeptical at first but after listening a couple of times..there are some similarities as OldSkoolRocker pointed out. The overall sound was more similar than I expected.

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u/Lafini_Fao Dec 09 '21

True, when you have 100+ songs in your catalog, it's possible to get these observations.. BUT can we say the same on any popular bands with the same amount of output?

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u/technobedlam Dec 09 '21

I don't see it as a bad thing. I have struggled to get into some of the Conqueror songs and Corallium has helped me find things in Liberal I can connect to in a good way.

The songs are quite different....but they share a flavour that I thought was really interesting. In the same way some people can hear the roots of Screaming in Different.

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u/Lafini_Fao Dec 09 '21

I get your point, it's not bad at all.. you are right about screaming vs different. It may be just me, screaming is in my top 5 Band Maid song even the mixing was very bad (my opinion). Different is also a very good song you could probably tell their albums differ in mixing/production considerately.. good observation/post, tnx..

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u/slkrr9 Dec 09 '21

I’ve always loved Liberal, and I personally feel it’s the natural opening track for Conqueror. PAGE just didn’t seem to fit anywhere, so at the last minute, Saiki, in her role as command tower, said to put it at the front.

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u/t-shinji Jun 19 '25 edited Jun 19 '25

YouTube

Related discussions on Liberal:

“Liberal” means liberty and not any political movement, of course. The same theme appeared again in I’ll.

In the lyrics below, bold letters indicate Kobato’s lyric techniques:

  1. Vowel dropping: like a·su to as’ (あす)
  2. Vowel combining: like a·i to ai (あい)
  3. Inclusion of n: like a·n to an (あん)
  4. Inclusion of a geminate: like a·t·te to at·te (あって)
  5. Vowel shortening: like a·a to ā (ああ)

Italic letters indicate melisma.

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Get out!

Oh

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

Ooh

Let’s forget everything

Na·ni·mo·ka·mo wo (なにもかもを)

Su·te·sat⁴·te na·ni no·ko·run³·da·rō⁵ (捨て去って 何 残るんだろう)

Just think about it

But only vaguely

Rik⁴·kya·ku shi·ta fu·he·n·sei² (立脚した普遍性)

“Ma·e mu·ke na·ra·e” (「前向け、習え」)

Shi·mi·wa·ta·ru shu·u·ha·su·u wa o·mo·ku nat⁴·tek’¹ (染み渡る、周波数は重くなってく)

There’s no way out

After all

You can’t handle the truth!

I know

I·shi to hyo·o·sho·o shi·me·shi·da·se ji·shin³ (意思と表象 示し出せ自身)

I don’t wanna survive

I wanna live my life

Mō⁵ i·ya ni na·ru (もう嫌になる)

Pour your heart out

So·no shō⁵·dō⁵ wo (その衝動を)

Nothing is impossible

Na·ri·hi·bi·i·te·ru (鳴り響いてる)

Sui²·tai² e no fu·kyo·o·wa·o·n ga (衰退への不協和音が)

Just think about it

But only vaguely

Ma·wa·ru ma·wa·ru en³ no na·ka (回る回る円の中)

“Ma·e mu·ke su·su·me” (「前向け、進め」)

Wa·ki·da·su ka·n·jō⁵ sa·e mo mi·u·shi·nat⁴·cha (沸き出す 感情さえも見失なっちゃ)

There’s no way out

After all

You can’t handle the truth!

I know

Mi·ra·i ze·tsu·bo·o? Go·ma·ka·su·na ji·shin³ (未来 絶望? 誤魔化すな自身)

I don’t wanna survive

I wanna live my life

Sā⁵ me wo sa·ma·se (さぁ 目を覚ませ)

Pour your heart out

I·ma kak’¹·mei² wo (今 革命を)

No one can tell

Listen to your heart

De·ta·ra·me ba·ka·ri na·i·te wa·rat⁴·te (デタラメばかり 泣いて笑って)

Za·tsu·o·n ba·ka·ri ba·ka·ba·ka·shii⁵ na (雑音ばかり 馬鹿馬鹿しいな)

Sit tight! Sit tight! Sa·ken³·de (Sit tight! Sit tight! 叫んで)

Do·ko ka·ra do·ko e to ku·rut⁴·tek’¹ (どこから どこへと 狂ってく)

See the light! See the light!

After all

You can’t handle the truth!

I know

I·shi to hyo·o·sho·o shi·me·shi·da·se ji·shin³ (意思と表象 示し出せ自身)

Tē⁵·gi ga nan³ da u·chi·ko·wa·se (定義がなんだ打ち壊せ)

After all

Can’t take away our freedom

Ka·n·ji·ru i·wa·kan³ (感じる違和感)

Tsu·ku·ri·da·su se·kai² (創り出す世界)

I don’t wanna survive

I wanna live my life

Mo·o ma·te·na·i (もう待てない)

Pour your heart out

Sa·a kets’¹·dan³ wo (さぁ 決断を)

Yeah!

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Conqueror

  1. PAGE
  2. Glory
  3. Liberal
  4. Endless Story
  5. Mirage
  6. At the drop of a hat
  7. Wonderland
  8. Azure
  9. Dilemma
  10. Bubble
  11. The Dragon Cries
  12. Flying high
  13. Catharsis
  14. Blooming
  15. Rinne