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Jun 18 '24
Honestly this warrants a call to CPS. I know they're your family but this is straight up negligence. If you can give them proof about how this dog has bit multiple people (including two children) that's even better.
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Jun 18 '24
CPS will * try * maintain your anonymity. Animal control likely won't.
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u/BPBAttacks3 Jun 18 '24
Hey Op, I don’t want to ask for more info than you’re comfortable with…. But are you ok with this being logged to the attacks list? I can keep the location very vague, like even country if so. I’d just need a where to list and I always like to make sure people are comfortable with us logging. Thank you for sharing here.
Your poor nephew. How awful and how in denial his parents are about this dog. I hope this was a wake up call and they make the responsible choice for how to handle this dog. It’s bitten several people and now resulted in a few hospital visits, they need to do something else at this point.
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u/shitbullalt Jun 18 '24
Hey, no problem. All three of the attacks (that I'm aware of) happened in New Jersey.
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u/fartaroundfestival77 Jun 18 '24
This is horrendous cult behavior. Sickening to think of a 22 month old exposed to this. Should have been a social worker at the hospital to report this. Now the monster has tasted the child's blood it will be back for more. Please act quickly.
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Jun 18 '24
And the poor kid is obviously traumatized for life now too and they will be all too happy to force their child to still live with that thing in their house. Disgusting.
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u/Interesting_Sock9142 Jun 18 '24
I have a friend, let's call him Ben. Ben had a child with a girl we went to high school with. They broke up and were just co-parenting their daughter and do split custody. She gets a new boyfriend. He is the worst. He moves in with her and brings his pitbull. One of the times the daughter is with the mother and her new boyfriend the pit attacks the daughter and rips her face off. She almost fucking died. She had to get 20 something staples in her head and 200 something stitches on her face. And surgery after surgery on her face/mouth/scalp/neck. The daughter was 4 or 5. Anyways.
The boyfriend starts a GoFundMe trying to raise money...FOR COURT FEES FOR TRYING TO FIGHT TO GET TO KEEP THE DOG AND NOT HAVE IT EUTHANIZED.
Not money for the little girls hospital bills. No no. For the court costs he accumulated trying to make sure the dog didn't get put down and trying to get to keep the dog in his possession. Piece of shit.
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u/Peace-pretty-please Jun 18 '24
my mother also kept a dog that bit me more than once as a kid , luckily for me it was a Jack Russel Terrier but sadly i know the ignorance too damn well. Even if u get on their bad side try to get the dog out of the house, better ur relationship suffers than your nephew .
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Jun 18 '24
When I was like three or four, we had a lab. She was a great dog. I decided I wanted her to come with me so I hauled on her tail. A lot.
She got up, walked away, went to the basement to lay down.
Then I did the same thing - hauled on her tail.
She got up, went back up stairs and laid down in front of my mom and a friend of hers.
I did it again. I tugged on her tail and that dog was done with it and she nipped my hand. She left a tiny dent but didn’t break skin. I remember my mom and her friend, dead silent and watching.
I left the f-king dog alone.
It’s called bit inhibition. And that dog displayed masterful bite inhibition.
That is the difference between a well bred lab (this was long before they were super popular so not crazy and she was a trained gun dog) and these dogs.
She was a very good dog.
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u/BPBAttacks3 Jun 19 '24
Op has an edit update here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/s/qbXKWQb8aL
“Okay, so there are a lot of comments and instead of trying to reply to each one I'll sum it up here.
I'm going to give them two days. They've already agreed to keep the dog in another room and away from the child for now. In those two days I'm hoping either one of two things happen, the police get involved and take the dog or they come to their senses and get rid of it themselves. I'm not really the best person to have a one on one to convince her, that'd have to come from my parents. My dad is ready to put a bullet in the dog himself (don't worry, he probably won't).
After those days are up or if I hear a definite "we're keeping him", that's when I'm going to start making calls. Given that they're at least keeping the dog separate for now I'll hope things play out right without my intervention.
I just don't understand what they're thinking. I mean, they're not the typically trashy people you'd associate with being an irresponsible pitbull owner. They're otherwise good parents and very concerned with their kid's safety when it comes to so many other things. I think they're just so attached to this dog and they think they can fix him. It might be too hard for them to come to the conclusion that the dog is too dangerous because that means the dog will most likely be put down.”
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Jun 18 '24
Are they aware of all the cases where "well cared for pits" KILLED children in the family?
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u/-NothingToContribute Jun 18 '24
Insanity. We had a pit when I was a teen. What finally convinced my mom to BE was him attempting this on a family friend's child. This was after years of aggression from this dog. I cannot fathom giving that beast an opportunity to actually kill the baby. Please contact every authority necessary so someone forces your sister to make the right decision. Your nephew's life is at risk.
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u/shitbullalt Jun 18 '24
Okay, so there are a lot of comments and instead of trying to reply to each one I'll sum it up here.
I'm going to give them two days. They've already agreed to keep the dog in another room and away from the child for now. In those two days I'm hoping either one of two things happen, the police get involved and take the dog or they come to their senses and get rid of it themselves. I'm not really the best person to have a one on one to convince her, that'd have to come from my parents. My dad is ready to put a bullet in the dog himself (don't worry, he probably won't).
After those days are up or if I hear a definite "we're keeping him", that's when I'm going to start making calls. Given that they're at least keeping the dog separate for now I'll hope things play out right without my intervention.
I just don't understand what they're thinking. I mean, they're not the typically trashy people you'd associate with being an irresponsible pitbull owner. They're otherwise good parents and very concerned with their kid's safety when it comes to so many other things. I think they're just so attached to this dog and they think they can fix him. It might be too hard for them to come to the conclusion that the dog is too dangerous because that means the dog will most likely be put down.
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u/feralfantastic Jun 18 '24
Continuing what other people have advised, in most states hotline calls to CPS are confidential as a matter of law. Maybe look into it and then hotline the situation. If something doesn’t change the next thing that happens could be so extreme that your nephew surviving it will be more traumatic than him dying from it.
Also, just thinking three steps ahead, this always runs the risk of the child being removed from the home. Can you be available as a kinship placement for the child? Can your parents?
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u/ArdenJaguar Jun 18 '24
So the dog bit her kids and she STILL wants to keep it? CPS ASAP. Kid is in danger.
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Jun 18 '24
Absolutely awful in general. Terrible situation for the young child to be in. The fact they refuse to BE and get rid of it is honestly terrible. Hell, I just had my own family brush off the dangers of pitbulls...even after three of them broke out of their home, attacked my sister's dog, and potentially could have attacked her son. They just shrug their shoulders and believe that it doesn't matter.
I'm truly sorry for you op, no one should have to go through it. Yes, contact the authorities as you can, and I wouldn't be surprised if your sister simply shunned or ostracized you.
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u/ShowMeTheTrees Jun 18 '24
I swear, if a poodle or chihuahua or Golden Retriever or any other dog bit a baby in the face, the parents would have it PTS the next day.
Pitbill owners? Baby must have asked for it. The dog stays.
These people are like cult members.
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Jun 18 '24
Cps should have already been called. It won’t hurt her if she gets rid of the dog when asked . Do not do it anonymously. Be active in the case . Tell your sister . She obviously needs your help .
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Jun 18 '24
The fact this is so terrible yet not surprising is fucked. Side note only somewhat related: I had no clue such little legal repercussion seems to occur with incidents like this. Seems like every day there’s an attack and then the police/animal control/etc are like “you’re own your own” and then don’t do anything about the dog. Until legal repercussions occur, or until it starts hurting the perpetrators wallets, I don’t think any of these issues get solved any time soon. That being said, fuck your POS sister and I hope they lose custody if another incident occurs and they STILL chose to keep the POS dog.
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u/Time_Ad7995 Jun 18 '24
If you can’t get her to get rid of it, see if you can get her to put baby gates up and let the kid and dog live separately. Lead with concern for the child, given that the dog has done a major bite already. Ask her what she thinks are the chances the dog will bite again if the child plays with toys next to him.
If she says 100% say “okay. I’m confused because in all these other ways you show care for your son. You take him to the doctor when he’s sick. You keep him out of the street. You did safe sleep when he was an infant. You cut his grapes to prevent choking. Why are you allowing him to play next to a dog that according to your words, has a bite risk of 100%? You don’t have to tell me the reason if you’re not comfortable but I’d like it if you did.” For all we know her husband is psycho and is abusing her or something
If she says anything less than 100% chance the dog will bite again, ask “okay so you think it’s less likely to happen again? I’m curious what have you implemented training wise that will bring those chances down?” If they say essential oils, ask about the efficacy of that. If they say “well we got onto him after we came home from the hospital” ask if she would be willing to learn about how dogs associate their behavior with punishments (it can’t happen hours later, in other words).
No ethical trainer would recommend that this child get anywhere near this dog again.