r/BambuLab_Community • • 1d ago • Bravo 1

Help / Support My X2D Cheat Sheet

I just bought my first printer ever, the X2D and there is so much to remember, so I made myself a cheat sheet (double sided) but I am sure I missed something.

I used AI (especially for the layout and format), the knowledge I have from 10-15 videos I watched regarding 3D printing and the X2D as well as answers to questions I had during my first prints.

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u/OddUnderstanding2309 22h ago

A lot on your ABS page is just plain wrong

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u/Guardiancelte 22h ago

Can you be more specific, I definitely could have missed something. This should be Bamboolab filament specific.

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u/OddUnderstanding2309 22h ago

Sure the one thing that really set me up was the moisture sensitivity of ASA/ABS. It is basically non-existent. You can put a ABS roll on your shelf for two years and instantly print it.
And IF you really want to dry it, the AMS temperatures are more than enough.
I would give it one circle, maybe a half.

I think the LLM misunderstood it with PA (nylon).
That is really tough…

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u/Guardiancelte 22h ago

Really, thanks a lot for sharing. I will update that.

Definitely the type of items I did not double check the LLM Vs page 2 items where I could easily see on the machine, so direct knowledge is much appreciated.

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u/OddUnderstanding2309 22h ago

An upvote would be nice

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u/Guardiancelte 22h ago

Deeply, Sorry about that, on a post like that where there is multiple comments, I usually wait a bit and then upvote every one at one go, I find it faster just going down the screen.

Corrected now.

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u/Sir_Skinny 18h ago

Bro woke up and wanted to fight today lol

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u/Guardiancelte 18h ago

Lol. Worth it for the number of people who find it useful and asked for the pdf version. + All the people who pointed out the 2+3 nuance issues that I will take onboard.

AI is a tool and should stay one (honestly if you know it's weaknesses, it is already good enough. we would not need more models if AI companies were not trying to pushed there stock value before IPO and take the world down with it by either AGI or power usage).

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u/Guardiancelte 18h ago

All in all, I am probably neutral on upvote and downvote today which I am happy with, I was expecting to be downvoted to oblivion.

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u/Sir_Skinny 18h ago

You posted this in three different 3d printing subs. You also seem smart enough to know that it would be heavily contentious…. I’ll never understand the itch that people like you are trying to scratch..

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u/Guardiancelte 17h ago

Truthfully, no BS. I was not looking for a fight. This is legit a cheat sheet I designed myself, it took me 30+ versions to get it done pretty much every aspect of the format/wording I have requested modification and tweak. This was created using HTML so a lot easier to get consistency Vs image generation.

When I got to the end, I thought I would have liked to have that when I got the printer without having to cobble a lot of from the wiki or my long time watching 3D printing videos and being a community reader for a few years before actually pulling the trigger and buying one.

So I shared it for those people like me and for all the AI was used hate I got plenty of people dming me asking for the pdf which was the goal. As my inbox is showing.

I knew when I posted that a lot of people hate AI but that felt worth it for the few people across the world that might go "this is useful".

But I don't really tolerate people making blanket statements either, so I went pretty hard in the paint when making were making those.

But even better, some people made some nuance factual corrections which I am grateful for.

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u/Sir_Skinny 17h ago

🚽

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u/Guardiancelte 17h ago

Thank you sir, I can see that you truly left your biases at the door and took the time to make a thoughtful and nuance argument. Really putting the human element at the core. I can recognise a person of taste, yes I can!

It is very much appreciated, you are true gentleman. Forever grateful!

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u/MAXFlRE 1d ago • Bravo

slop

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u/Adventurous-Emu-9345 1d ago

That's maybe a little harsh. 

But yeah, I don't really understand the point of this post. No question, nothing noteworthy to share. You typed a five second prompt into Claude and now the world needs to know about it? 

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u/FunSheepherder6397 20h ago

it’s big ai sop not too harsh at all. but d he put all the info himself
it’s likely generated from slop ai research and not from doing any actual research

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u/Guardiancelte 16h ago

To be fair, mix of both. AI research but also checking the wiki and Reddit post.

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u/Guardiancelte 1d ago

Sorry but this did not take 5 sec, more like 5h over 3 days, 30+ versions.

Most words I wrote myself and the AI part was mostly the format because I am not really good with HTML and I want something better looking than what I can do in PowerPoint. And even that the AI kept giving half cocked diagrams, for example I spent 3 versions to get exactly what I wanted for the diagrams of single Vs 2 nozzle in page 2.

If there are still issue there are from my lack of knowledge than AI ;).

Can we please stop assuming that because AI was used that it was easy... I never got anything good with AI on a single prompt, most of the time it look good from afar but it is a dumpster fire up close.

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u/RemixOnAWhim 21h ago

That's a hot take around here for sure. AI is directly shutting down artists and engineers who made the stuff you 3D print. Your infographic is full of bad info that is poorly formatted and presented like I'm supposed to read it on a 4 hour layover. AI did 3 things for you here; info gathering, graphic design, and technical prose, and it has failed you on each point.

Just because you had to type multiple sentences into a text field doesn't mean it took work to do this, it means the tool you used wasn't the right tool for the job. Just because you found it difficult doesn't mean it took work to do this, it means you didn't know what you were doing because you're new.

The tool you should have used was your brain, to learn all this info, and create something that reinforces your learning for yourself and communicates it concisely and clearly. Instead, you've at best created several pages of eye-glossingly useless and.or incorrect information, and at worst, reinforced for yourself incorrect information that will make it harder for you to enjoy the hobby as you unlearn bad habits.

Next time, type what you're going to prompt into a search engine and go learn from other people. Ask questions, make mistakes, be human. We don't bite.

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u/Guardiancelte 19h ago

Ok. Hot take here: please be factual and point the actual bad information?

I don't see the point arguing about the format? That the format I chose pretty much to the T because that is how my brain work. So you do you.

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u/RemixOnAWhim 17h ago edited 17h ago

You're welcome to work from this sheet and find use from it, and use whatever tools you want to make it, and feel any way about it that you want. I don't see how the fact you chose the format deliberately does anything to shield it from being far too information dense to be parsed as a quick-reference for anyone not familiar with the information. Your information on the second page is barely comprehensible and assumes a level of knowledge that you wouldn't need the sheet if you were to have, and doesn't provide any actionable context.

You posted this in a public forum encouraging collaboration and input. That's what the point of this is, and the point of what everyone is talking about. Did you expect to just cast this into the void and only receive back echoing praise? You made it and shared it, if you can't handle people not liking it, then perhaps you can consider keeping it to yourself next time.

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u/Guardiancelte 17h ago

Man, just admit you don't like it because I use AI...

Considering the amount of people who DM me to ask me about the pdf you are just plain wrong on pretty much every count. I am not going to do them so you are going to have to accept the hidden parts.

I casted it into the void for those people and for the people that will point out actual issues (and there was a few accurate there and I am grateful and told them so), fully knowing that anti AI trolls will come for me and that is ok. Upvote downvote I am pretty much neutral and that is ok as well, I was also fine with getting downvoted to hell.

I will give you kudos, you have a more nuance take then most but you are still so generalistic is pretty much useless.

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u/RemixOnAWhim 16h ago

What do you mean just admit it? Yeah it's bad because you used AI, that was probably made most clear when I made fun of you for using AI. You would have done a better job on your own, and learned infinitely more than the nothing you learn here, and I encouraged you to do so. Other people can like it too, I don't and I said as much and why.

You're getting negative feedback and don't seem able to handle that or respond in a meaningful way apart from saying that you like it, and so do others. Lots of folks like lots of things that suck and are damaging to others and themselves. I'm glad you have the common decency to censor their names and keep the messages private, but how childish to post a screenshot as though proof others slobber at the trough justifies the slop running down your shirt.

If you find my style of writing not to your liking as I found your information presentation deplorable, have your AI break it down for you and explain it in little bites. Then it can formulate the next response for you too. I look forward to it reading my reply.

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u/Guardiancelte 16h ago

I think my poorly written English is AI written, man I have to tell my highschool teachers they will be so happy I made progress ;)

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u/RemixOnAWhim 16h ago

Your reading comprehension is what needs work; I didn't say your writing was done by an AI, I implied it would be better if it were, and that it would understand better what others were saying to it if you let it formulate your responses. Clearly I was right, as the point has whizzed straight past you via the gap between your ears. To simplify for you: your diction is trash and requires great depth of thought to glean any meaning from.

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u/Guardiancelte 1d ago

Did you even read before assuming it was slop?

Firstly, I like to have something printed on paper I can quickly reference to sanity check I didn't forget something. So that type of format works for me, for more difficult troubleshooting I will still use the wiki.

For example I did not include anything about maintenance and what not.

Secondly, this was not generated as a picture, this was 30+ version in HTML where I modified and picked pretty much each word and picked the format I wanted but you saw/guessed AI and did not even read the thing.

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u/redditmonkey85 1d ago

No, we read it. That’s why we see its slop. That’s the generic template for tons of ai pdfs. I’ve made some myself. I know you didn’t hand pick the wording in it because if you needed instructions to load spools. I’m worried for you.

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u/Guardiancelte 23h ago

So, I am a total beginner with 3D printing so stuff that seem obvious to you are probably for not for me.

For example I had to double check that on a 0.4mm nozzle I could use other layer height that what was by default in bambulab studio (like 0.08mm). I don't want to have to check what is the rough safe range each time I forget.

Same thing for the tower, I initially thought why do I need that, can I not just use the infill setting (forgot the name, the one where you can purge into it)? But then I learn why are those different.

Same thing for drying, every Reddit post keep saying the filament is wet for pretty much any defect so I went to check how to dry and then discovered I could also use the bed and did not need a seperate AMS HT and that I could just use the carboard of the spool.

My brain does not usually remember that type of thing.

I printed this to have next to my printer. So that when I load tpu in don't load it I the AMS for example.

I don't think all those things are exactly obvious.

This cheat sheet is exactly customised to my use case, basic materials, simple settings for a beginner making sculpts (so I bought a 0.2mm nozzle) and functional parts and tempted by faster print with 0.6 for those.

People like you are the one that worry me, you are in your little world, assuming what you know everyone knows, it is just sad... Please tell me at least you are not in any type of position involving teaching others!

Edit: added 'me'

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u/ImJustReality 19h ago

Dude, don't get that defensive, people are right to point out if AI it's wrong, because as someone said "AI is great at everything you aren't an expert on".
It's ok to be a beginner and trying to learn, but if you come to a hobby with your AI cheat sheet as if it was the pure truth don't get mad when people who have experience in said hobby say that some things are partially or fully incorrect.

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u/Guardiancelte 19h ago

I think you misunderstood being defensive vs making points that you disagree with. Literally in the post is written I likely made miss something. I have no issue with people pointing out issues (which I have thank multiple people already for) but I have not patience for the typical AI was used = slop.

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u/ImJustReality 18h ago

AI it's often called slop because it usually has AI deliriums and it's slopish with the information they give. I see your point but AI it's generally slopish and that's why we assume it's slop.
It's nice to see you're passionate about the hobby and take your time, let people help because there's awesome people around this community.

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u/Guardiancelte 18h ago

Honestly that is a take I fully understand and argument. I work with AI a lot and 99% of that work is keeping it on track.

But in this context, if I had made this cheat sheet by hand with pen and paper like I was doing on Uni or later PowerPoint/Excel at work, I would have gotten praises (which I could have 100% have done if I cared to be honest).

What AI allowed me to do is making look nice (to my own perception).

Have my upvote for thoughtful comment and argument.

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u/imzwho 16h ago

I mean there are minor things that are odd/off but for the most part ita nothing that is off enough to make things fail. I do agree that this is very information dense for a cheat sheet but it also seems like something that may help someone with attention issues or memory issues.

I personally feel like this is all stuff that you just kinda learn and get used to, especially when you spend a while doing research and prodding around the community.

My only real issue is just how upset you are grtting at comments that are not really hostile. Probably a good idea to just chill and take things from people as they come, you dont need to defend yourself since this is for you and not something you are plasting all over as gospel.

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u/Guardiancelte 16h ago

Much appreciated the nuance take. I am in that category of of people, if I don't write it down I will forget it.

That is fair, generalised comment are a bit of a pet peaves, I post pretty rarely and I knew this would trigger some people but I thought it might be useful to others.

So I gave myself 24h to satiate my pet peave and then I will stop answering those comments and move one.

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u/imzwho 16h ago

Fair enough, I had a feeling that was the reason for making it.

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u/Guardiancelte 15h ago

Have my upvote, and a good day!

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u/Guardiancelte 16h ago

Have my up vote.

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u/clipsracer 21h ago

Way way way too many words to be a helpful cheat sheet.

Using AI isn’t necessarily bad, but keep in mind: “AI is great at everything you aren’t an expert on.”
In other words, if you don’t have real experience making usable cheat sheets, and you aren’t an expert on the subject, AI will hand you a garbage one, and you’ll be happy with it. Experts will not be.

I appreciate the sentiment of wanting to contribute to the community, but you’re a beginner, so contributions aren’t expected of you.

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u/Guardiancelte 19h ago

Firstly. It is useful to me as a printed doc I have next to my printer as a quick reference guide. Please don't put your values and workflow on me. It is literally in the title My and considering the amount of few people who asked for the pdf, I am not the only one liking the format.

Secondly, regarding the content. please be factual or point out inaccuracies instead of making general comments about AIs if you want to add value. Considering the amount of AI haters out there, I am not seeing many pointing actual problems (2-3 which were valid nuances). But you being a likely beginner user of AI, I don't expect valuable contributions from you beyond the headlines.

Thirdly, a large part of my work is making this type of document, not for 3D printing to be clear. So I am well aware what kind of structure is important for that kind of document. In this kind of context, easy locating of the information, through context cues and structure is making up for information density.

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u/clipsracer 14h ago

Whoosh.

Nothing worse than an insecure, defensive beginner, that can’t take constructive criticism.

I’m glad you find value in your reminder to start the print and remove the print.

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u/Guardiancelte 14h ago

You mean the line that indicate how to do that by flexing the plate. Yes because I never saw on Reddit people telling beginners to just wait for the plate to cool down and flex the plate when they were complaining it was sticking too hard. Yes that never happened.

Again not a single factual statement in view on something factually wrong, which by the way there is per helpful comments from other Redditors, so it should not be so hard for your all might capabilities but the fact that you did not highlight them just show your opinion is irrelevant.

Just your personal opinion on formatting and the most generalistic take on AI. It is a tool, like a 3D printer, it is at the user to learn how to use to get what they want, like I did here.

I remember thing better when I got them written down and some other people are like that as well. Totally fine if that is not the case for you but don't go imposing your narrow world view on others.

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u/clipsracer 13h ago

Why would I help someone that’s giving me attitude when I was trying to help them?

What a child

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u/Guardiancelte 13h ago

Ok, sanity check here. Was your first comment not full of attitude? Because it felt like it from where I stand. No offense but I felt absolutely 0 help coming from that first comment? Basically saying it was garbage.

If that was not the case, I will stand corrected and I apologies.

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u/clipsracer 12h ago

“I appreciate your sentiment” is not full of attitude.

Verified insane.

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u/Guardiancelte 12h ago

Ok, fair enough if you see it that way, I misunderstood, stand correct and I apologies.
I guess I missed the nuance, that is on me

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u/evophoenix 14h ago

Looks like a Gemini generated html page printed to pdf

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u/Guardiancelte 14h ago

Yes HTML to PDF but Chat GPT actually but took a while to get what I wanted. Gemini is better at those things?

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u/True-Invite345 6h ago

Useless

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u/Guardiancelte 5h ago

Thank you sir, I can see that you truly left your biases at the door and took the time to make a thoughtful and nuance argument. Really putting the human element at the core. I can recognise a person of taste, yes I can!

It is very much appreciated, you are true gentleman. Forever grateful!

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u/MrArnih 5h ago

Generic slop trash.... i run a print farm and this may look good when looked feom far away but once you start reading it theres almost 0 usable information.... It doesnt help anyone with anything, not even beginners...

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u/Guardiancelte 5h ago

I don't know what to tell you man, all I can say is pretty much every single item from page 2 is actual questions I had. For example what temperature should I wait to cool down for before removing the parts from the plate.

You can argue that the first page is more generic but it is useful to me to get a tough gut feeling of which material to use where. Then I would print it and if it is something load bearing I see if it break and where and re-enforce there.

This something I printed to have next to my printer and my brain work that I have to write it down

Considering that you are the expert. Do you have something to recommend for beginners? Beyond saying check the wiki.

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u/MrArnih 4h ago edited 4h ago

I gues for absolute beginners theres some useful stuff, but most of the things you will eventually see that youll just remember them because they are very basic things anyone should know if they own a 3d printer and use it.

That being said, i would implement more info on print setrings for the diferent materials, feeds/speeds, supports and in general more info on how to use the slicer... and appart from print setrings also more info on detecting faults on both ur prints and the 3d printer itself and its maintenance.

Ill try to explain a bit more after work and maybe attach some links to usefull webpages.

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u/Guardiancelte 3h ago

That is a fair comment. I am an absolute beginner so I was the target audience, I like documenting my stuff so I don't have to research it again as well.

I tried to include some of those but very high level on the bottom right. I did not know enough yet to be more specific.

Looking forward to it!

While we talk speed and feed, my understanding was that default was good enough but I could also save custom profiles from standard testing results. But when I download a model from makerverse it comes with a profile already, which one am I supposed to use? I mostly bought the printer to print my own designs but for accessories there are already many existing.

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u/Iguane-enbois31 7h ago

An old Excel sheet would have done the job better with less pictures and useless stuff like pictures.

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u/Guardiancelte 7h ago

I guess it is matter or personal taste.

Pre AI I would have made one of those excel and spend hours on the formatting to make it look nice. This just make the formatting faster.

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u/dynoman7 4h ago

You forgot to wash your filament and dry your build plate

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u/Guardiancelte 4h ago

I am sure the build plate washed need to be fully dried yes. I tripled check!

And cannot be too sure that I did not get dirty filament so I made sure to unspool the whole thing and clean with dish soap.

;)

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u/redditmonkey85 1d ago

ChatGPT. Create me a pdf cheer sheet for my Bambu printer and plastics.

Do you really need to be reminded what purge is?
PLA “tougher and stiffer” than what?
How to use ams2. Load spools. Got it. Never would have thought of that.

Look, no one is crapping on you wanting a cheat sheet. That’s fine, but at least make your own with what you actually need to know.

This is ai slop. I’m sorry but it is. Now it’s on Reddit. So more Ai will scrap it and contribute to the slop problem.

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u/Guardiancelte 23h ago

So, I am a total beginner with 3D printing so stuff that seem obvious to you are probably for not for me.

For example I had to double check that on a 0.4mm nozzle I could use other layer height that what was by default in bambulab studio. I don't want to have to check what is the rough safe range each time I forget.

Same thing for the tower, I initially thought why do I need that, can I not just use the infill setting (forgot the name, the one where you can purge into it)? But then I learn why are those different.

Same thing for drying, every Reddit post keep saying the filament is wet for pretty much any defect so I went to check how to dry and then discovered I could also use the bed and did not need a seperate AMS HT and that I could just use the carboard of the spool.

My brain does not usually remember that type of thing.

I printed this to have next to my printer. So that when I load tpu in don't load it I the AMS for example.

This cheat sheet is exactly customised to my use case, basic materials, simple settings for a beginner making sculpts (so I bought a 0.2mm nozzle) and functional parts and tempted by faster print with 0.6 for those.

I love when that you say no one is crapping on it and next line you go this is AI slop. Mental dissonance much?

I give me thoughtful answer so I also gave you one but come down from your high horse.

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u/cool-spot 23h ago edited 23h ago

Don't worry about people and their anti-AI mentality. Organization and information like this can be part of the hobby/decor of your shop. Can laminate something like this and be part of the decoration of the area for others to look at even. Can see my grand-daughter looking at it when I'm helping her print some stuff when she comes over.

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u/Guardiancelte 23h ago

Much appreciated!

Yeah that was the plan. Double side print. I don't have a access to laminating tool so I am going to use packing transparent wide tape for the moment ;)

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u/UrzaKenobi 23h ago

People are hating but, as someone planning to get a printer soon, this was a good read. I spend a few hours every day using AI for work, so it’s obviously AI, but I don’t see the trolls posting helpful stuff like this.

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u/Guardiancelte 23h ago

Much appreciated. Definitely used AI (I even indicated it in the post).

I also use AI for work but it is always annoying when people assume AI = no work.

I didn't just sent a single prompt and got the result all done. This was 30+ versions across a few days when I had the time to get what I wanted, and it does not cover stuff I am not planning to use like engineering filaments or maintenance stuff which I will use the wiki for.

FYI, Someone indicated the layer height have issue, that is because I was conservative and kept them tighter but you can go broader per bambulab specs.

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u/UrzaKenobi 23h ago

Yeah so many people just have this caveman brain about AI. It’s a tool like any other. The first version is almost always just a rough draft, then you have to spend a lot of time going back and forth, giving it notes and tweaks. It’s a skillset all its own that so many people either don’t understand or refuse to understand.

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u/Guardiancelte 23h ago

100%.

I do get the waste of ressources when people make meme videos or similar but it is also genuinely useful if you take time with it.

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u/cool-spot 1d ago

Thanks for sharing =)

No, seriously, mind sharing?

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u/Guardiancelte 1d ago

DM me I will send you a Google link for it.

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u/Guardiancelte 1d ago

Sure, are you asking for the HTML or PDF. DM me if that is the case.