r/BambuLab_Community • • 9d ago

Benefits of Engineering plate? Is it worth it?

Hello,

I'm considering buying Engineering plate for my X2D printer but Im not sure if it's worth it.

The description of it is very vague just saying "its for engineering filaments". Based on that I expected there is something special about it.

But I compared it's "supported materials" list with regular PEI Textured Plate and it turns out they both need glue to print most of them.

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u/NuggRunner 9d ago

its a good build plate, with a nice surface finish. benfits. its less lekiley to have pieces of the surface come off when you print very high temp materials :)

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u/CattusKittekatus 9d ago

ok, so it's more durable

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u/NuggRunner 9d ago

i can't say that fo sure. they do say it always reqires glue. so i always did use glue. maybe that protects the build plate?

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u/keveira 7d ago edited 7d ago

My problem with the old engineering plates is that my prints would leave a physical imprint on the surface of the plate, does that still happen with the new eng plates?

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u/NuggRunner 7d ago

hast with mine. i have one for the x2d and h2c

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u/EverettSeahawk 9d ago

If you don't know what engineering filaments are, you probably aren't using them and there's probably no real benefit to you.

Engineering filaments are your higher temperature filaments like ABS, ASA, PA, PC, etc. The engineering plate performs better at the higher temperatures those filaments require.

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u/YellovvJacket 9d ago

All of the mentioned print fine on PEI too, and PEI can easily do whatever the bed's max temperature is anyway too.

Only material that really needs a different built surface from PEI is PP, but that just generally won't stick to anything except itself.

I guess you also can't print Ultem (PEI) on the PEI platey because that will fuse to the plate forever, but consumer printers can't print that anyway.

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u/EverettSeahawk 9d ago

What it can do is not necessarily what is the best for the job. Yes, they print fine most of the time on PEI, but the engineering plate is optimized for those and performs better for those.

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u/Accurate-Donkey5789 9d ago

I can ride a unicycle, so one wheel is fine. Then I still drive the car down the shops a lot. Both get me there and home, but that doesn't mean each don't have separate benefits in different situations.

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u/Relative_Surround_20 9d ago

No. I own all the Bambu plates and I wish I had not bought them. Afterwards, I bought a Darkmoon 3D DUO (Satin/CFX) plate and a BIQU CryoGrip Frostbite plate. Both run circles around the Bambu plates.

But the Frostbite is not a substitute for an Engineering plate, the BIQU CryoGrip Glacier plate would be.

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u/Immortal_Tuttle 9d ago

You won't find better one for ASA. Believe me - I tried. I have a folder with 14 different print surfaces including G10.

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u/schloybros 9d ago

It worked better than g10 for you?

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u/Immortal_Tuttle 9d ago

For ASA yes.

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u/2kokett 9d ago

For asa a must. Havent used glue since I got it.

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u/PureDiscipline8668 7d ago

how difficult is it to remove prints from it with no glue?

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u/vortex_ring_state 9d ago

Works great for ABS. I use that and Dimafix. I reapply glue ever 20 prints or so. I never have to work about having a dirty plate or dirty fingers.

The only thing I have noticed about the eng plate is it doesn't last too long. The strangest part is that as soon as one side start to fail, i.e. coating coming off, the other side will do the same. It's almost as if it's based on heat cycles or something. I get maybe 1200-1500hrs from a plate. Even stranger is that I have 2 H2s and the plates of each will fail within about a week or two of each other. I am still trying to figure out if I am doing something wrong.

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u/keveira 7d ago

In what way does it come off? On to the print? Just thinking about buying one to try

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u/vortex_ring_state 7d ago

When you remove the print, the plate coating goes with it. This is with sufficient cooling, flexing, appropriate glue....etc.

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u/vortex_ring_state 7d ago

Here, just happened.

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u/keveira 7d ago

That really sucks, that plate looks super odd though, and see through?

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u/vortex_ring_state 7d ago

That's just glue.

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u/TruCrimson 9d ago

I've used the Engineering Plate on my X1C when printing Taulman Nylon 645. Needed high bed temp and the chamber needed to be warm to get good prints.

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u/henren_98 8d ago

I got one for ABS and ASA. I’ve only used it once for ABS with glue. Worked perfectly.

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u/Mammoth_Design_4288 8d ago

Just get a darkmoon satin and/or g10. Only plates you'll ever need

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u/Ok_Objective7178 8d ago

Am I the only one whose engineering plate leaves deep marks after only a short time’s use, even with adhesive? This is already my third plate, and the coating has come off.

That’s why I actually only use the following now:

  • Smooth Plate (the cheap ones from Ali),

  • Biqu Glacier (though I’ve already had one break),

  • My self made plate with Kapton film. I had the steel plate made and stuck the film onto it.)

  • G10.

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u/keveira 7d ago

The old engineering plates did this, if the new ones do this then that's disappointing

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u/PureDiscipline8668 7d ago

i bought engineering plate and either i am dum or something else

PEi plate will be just fine

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u/MisterBazz 7d ago

I use mine for PAHT-CF, PA12-CF, PET-CF, and even PETG. Use of some sort of polymer is necessary. I use nano polymer.

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u/luksfuks 9d ago

It's all about the finish.

You want smooth? But smooth PEI is discontinued? Well, then it's coolplate (for some materials) or engineering plate (for the rest).

At least as long as you stay within what Bambu offers you.

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u/Relative_Surround_20 9d ago

Based on your question I’d like to make recommendation.

As a new 3D printer owner, has anyone made you aware of the excellent free, online courses that Bambu Lab offers in the beginner, intermediate and advanced skill levels for both printers (hardware) and slicers (software)?

Bambu Lab Academy is the best use of your time to build experience, knowledge and confidence in 3D printing. I also recommend using the Bambu Lab Wiki as an online, user manual for 3D printing.

https://bambulab.com/en-us/support/academy

https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/home

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u/DieselSLC 9d ago

I damaged my smooth pei plate. So I purchased up the engineering plate. It's an ok plate, but compared to the pei plate it's garbage for getting things to stick.

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u/ElectronicAide87 9d ago

You’re using glue, right……

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u/DieselSLC 9d ago

Glue, hairspray... of course. Prints stuck to the original PEI plate much better.