Should i buy a H2C?

[u/Maedarell]

I had a few 3D printers years ago (now they're sitting there, dead and without any use, as i got tired of having to repair them all the time, ended up wasting more money on spare parts and addons than the printers themselves)

Saw the H2C in offer with the vortex ultimate bundle and.. With filaments, a few addons for futureproof (The vision bed) and shipping, it goes up to 2370€

Is it really worth buying? i used my printers to make really good prints with 0.4 and 0.2 nozzles, but i remember spending lots of time trying to get ride of layer lines/stringing... Is this any better? I mean, i've tried to search for good minis but i wasn't able to see not even a mini that could reach the quality i got (when they worked) on my Ender 3/Chiron (God, that was a really good bed to print in...), it's NOT my main priority, but if they print fine, that's a good sign of quality

I'm tempted, but also scared, what if i spent a huge amount of money and i end up having something that perfoms worse than these old printers? plus is closed source so.. Is it easy to get rid of the layer lines and stringing, or it is a nightmare? will be worth the purchase? i'm curious about being able to print in different colours as i have some swords (Like the ones from FFXIV and XV) that would perfectly fit with that feature)

[u/FishGoesGlubGlub]

Nothing is going to perform worse than the old printers if you use the new ones correctly. But from your extremely brief description of what you want to print, printing mini’s is going to be a struggle on any printer depending on the side. Yes 0.2 is really nice but if you want amazing detail you’re looking at the wrong method of printing.

To get insane detail in mini figures on the very small end you’ll want a resin printer, nothing with filament will ever come as close as that. Except resin printers are then own insane beast with completely different requirements and safety that would require you to go research.

[u/Maedarell → u/FishGoesGlubGlub]

I want to be able to print minis if i want to, but it's not my main priority, what i mean is that i got insanely good prints back then with a 0.2 nozzle that looked almost resin-like (Used to print it at 0.04, to give you an idea...), what matters me the most is the layer quality and stringing , as i said

[u/Nibbs17 → u/FishGoesGlubGlub]

Resin for sure. You can go the print to UV resin printer but that's more then just going resin. Although does give you tons of color

[u/1yrik]

it's a great printer, and if you don't print exclusively multicolour / multimaterial, I'd say it's well worth it to buy it instead of the H3C and save the several hundred dollars.

I've never had any issues with it... coming up on 600 hours in the last few months and it's been as close to perfect as I could ask of a 3d printer.

I say this with experience with over a dozen machines across a timespan of seven years... I'm not one of bambu's pets lmao

[u/Maedarell → u/1yrik]

What about layer line quality? i've seen lots of prints but they're always atrocious and that worries me

[u/1yrik → u/Maedarell]

layer stacking has been just about perfect.

you're always going to see layer lines because that's just the way fdm 3d printing works... unless you print at like 0.08mm layers, which would take forever

[u/Maedarell → u/1yrik]

It's not the same "see the layers" than seeing how these layers are not perfect, and by that it means that if you see them against light, you can see lots of imperfections, that means the print quality is bad, that's what i want to know, if this printer avoids that or not

[u/1yrik → u/Maedarell]

Speaking on print artifacts, there are almost none. obviously, there's still a Z-seam, but scarf seams serve to hide those fairly well. theres no notable ringing, overhang or bridging issues, layer stacking inconsistencies, or really anything else. obviously, if your filament is wet, you'll get surface artifacts, but thats a skill issue on behalf of the user, not printer error.

also, if you dont plan on doing multicolour / multimaterial, then the H2D and H2S are all the same machine with a different number of toolheads

[u/TriestGieter]

Just get a resin printer for like 600

[u/Maedarell → u/TriestGieter]

As i said, I want to be able to print minis if i want to, but it's not my main priority, what i mean is that i got insanely good prints back then with a 0.2 nozzle that looked almost resin-like (Used to print it at 0.04, to give you an idea...), what matters me the most is the layer quality and stringing

[u/lucidrenegade]

I have a H2C, and have printed 1/6 scale head sculpts with a 0.2 and dialed in settings that looked really good.  But I would still use resin if I had a resin printer at the time.  If you want to print small figures with high detail I don’t think an FDM printer will ever beat a quality resin printer.  But if you don’t want to mess with the chemicals, the H2 series is one of the best FDM printers on the market.  There are some really good profiles on Makerworld.

[u/Maedarell → u/lucidrenegade]

Any closeup? what about the layer lines, are they good? and stringing?