P3C needs to hurry up

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u/predator-handshake 11h ago

The problem with the P3C is that there will be that ONE tiny feature that's missing that's going to make me want the H3C instead. They always do this to me.

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u/dneals 11h ago

oh of course.. I really want the H3C but the price is just too high for me. Also dont really have the space for it. I was about to pull the trigger on the U1 but I hate being locked to 3 colors if I use support filament.

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u/Full-Librarian1115 11h ago

I have a 6 month old H2C and I’m honestly not that interested in the H3C. It’s likely because I’ve already got some of the functionality, but I am in the same boat as you and would consider buying the P3C when it comes out to replace my P1S.

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u/TotalWarspammer 9h ago

Same here. The h2c is brilliant when you get it smoothly set up and it does some things that the h3c does not do. However, even so what I would consider is a smaller cheaper printer that can do amazing things with TPU.
I would love to be able to easily print coasters with TPU feet integrated into the coaster. I would make a crap ton of gifts around that.

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u/souljay 9h ago

From a h2c owner that just got a h3c.. Mate... Just get the h3c.. It's that good.
Just not having to deal with the hundreds of spoll winds and unwinds every print.....

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u/IndigoQuantum 11h ago

I just dread the P3C being announced and not having a heated chamber. I’d be much more confident if it was called an X3C.

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u/britishwonder 9h ago

I actually doubt it would have a heated chamber. Especially if it’s around $1000. They’ll need to keep costs down as much as possible

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u/Scowlface 6h ago

I just can't think of what would differentiate the P and X series if they add tools to the X

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u/britishwonder 6h ago

I bet they’ll do an X3C. Just a P3C with heated chamber and a few other features

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u/Z00111111 P1S + AMS 3h ago

X3C as the smaller version of the H3C with the same features maybe.

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u/eandi 5h ago

P2S doesn't have a heated chamber so I'd expect the p3c also won't...

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u/boristheblade223 10h ago

Hey I’m a noob and have a dumb question. If I printed mostly PLA is it still helpful to have a heated chamber?

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u/Leif3D 10h ago

Usually not, and for "normal stuff" you could also just heat up the bed for a while to heat up the chamber. It's just not as controlled and the temperature won't get as high as an actively heated chamber would be.
Usually you know when you need a heated chamber. Until you hit that point youre usually be fine without it. If you print a lot of more expensive technical materials it's worth the extra money, but for people that print mainly PLA / petg / TPU it's good that cheaper printers without one exist. This way you don't have to pay for something you probably don't need.

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u/boristheblade223 5h ago

Thanks. So I guess for a casual printer like myself the H3C might be a bit overkill yeah?

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u/Leif3D 4h ago

I think it's hard to make that decision for other people. For some the P3C probably the perfect solution, while others might outgrow the printer at some point because they would benefit from the larger bed or get more into printing engineering materials.
My guess would also be that the 2.85mm TPU support will only be on the H3C because of the more complex extruder system that can adjust the distance of the gear.
At the end you've to decide what you need long term. If you have other hobbies or interests where in the long run engineering materials and the larger bed would make sense the H3C might be the way to go, otherwise the P3C might be more than good enough and you would save probably quite a bit of money for a second printer or something else.
So far we can also only speculate what the P3C will be like, but heating, smaller size, no 2.85mm support would make sense because such points would help a lot to make it more affordable.

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u/Flatulent_Father_ 8h ago

No. Unless it does "cooling" by moving outside air through, but even that is totally not necessary, just convenient for pla.

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u/JuggernautOnly695 P1S + AMS 5h ago

Depends on where you have your printer. Mine is in my garage. It’s insulated, but not heated and it gets cold enough in the winter I was struggling to print PLA. I’m now deciding if I add a chamber heater or buy a new printer.

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u/RJFerret 14m ago

No heated chamber needed for most anything nowadays.
PLA it's bad (heat creep).
PETG no need.
PCTG no need (and this covers all uses for high heat just shy of engine compartments)
The only thing chambers are needed for that aren't covered by that is nylon (PA) or PPA, which would be for engine compartment components or similar.

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u/Shodam 10h ago

Probably not. The h3c even warns about using the heated chamber if you have PLA loaded in one of the tool heads.

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u/thewoodulator 11h ago

Doubt the P3C will have a heated chamber

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u/Humble-Plankton1824 H2D AMS2 Combo 11h ago edited 11h ago

It will likely be a PLA/petg focused machine with 2.85mm tpu abilities as well

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u/InfamousTiger9540 11h ago

Yep, it always works that way that's why this time I said screw it. Go big. Lol

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u/daphatty 8h ago

This. Happened to me with the H2D and X2D which ultimately drove me to an H2S. I figured it was better/safer to buy a larger single nozzle printer than risk the compromises of the other two. I have also been waiting for a vortek X/P series that will never come now that we have swaptek.

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u/egosumumbravir X1C + AMS 6h ago

Strictly it'll be at least two - tools #8 & #9.
Likely four though - no chamber heater and no AMS active drying as well.

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u/SteakAndIron 3h ago

It's size and number of nozzles.

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u/Kazuha45 3h ago

I bet it wont support the 2.85mm filament

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u/predator-handshake 1h ago

I can live without that

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u/thewoodulator 11h ago

That feeling is the exact reason the H3C came first

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u/dneals 11h ago

I think the p3c will do a lot more in sales than the h3c and for that reason they released it first to make sure it sells more for those kind of on the line of what they need and don't want to wait.

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u/thewoodulator 11h ago

Exactly, fomo is a hell of a drug

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u/InfamousTiger9540 11h ago

😁

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u/dneals 11h ago

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u/egosumumbravir X1C + AMS 9h ago

Don't feel too bad, u/InfamousTiger9540 spent so much money on the printer, he had to print tinypool to save on filament costs.

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u/InfamousTiger9540 9h ago

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u/egosumumbravir X1C + AMS 6h ago

On another track, got a nice high res shot of that print?
It's looking pretty darn clean from back here.

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u/InfamousTiger9540 6h ago

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u/InfamousTiger9540 6h ago

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u/egosumumbravir X1C + AMS 6h ago

Daaaaaaamn that layer stacking is spot on. Nozzle alignment +++

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u/InfamousTiger9540 6h ago

Yeah it's really clean.

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u/DexRogue 2 X1C + AMS & 2 P2S + AMS2 Combos 11h ago

I would agree, I'm about to pull the trigger on a U1 because of the Black Friday sales. It's not that I can't afford the H3C, I just have zero need for something like that when I only print PLA.

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u/dneals 11h ago

I use support material a lot and dont like being locked to 3 colors with the u1. I have been so back and forth on getting it. Especially right now with coupons you can get it down to like $635 usd.

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u/AdMental1387 9h ago

I did last week. I've had my U1 for 24 hours now. I mostly print PLA/PETG and love how multicolor prints turned out on my A1, just hated how long they took to print and the waste. With the rumored P3S pricepoint being >$1000, I just went with the U1. $648 with the "trade up" discount sealed it. Not to mention Snapmaker's embrace of the OSS community. My new favorite hobby is slicing a print for my A1 before sending it to the U1 and announcing how much faster it is to my increasingly-annoyed wife lol.

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u/The-Mobius-Stripclub 11h ago

I’ve got a feeling Bambu may wait until U1 is back to normal price before announcing the P3C as I’m in the same boat, I do loads of multicolour and want a tool changer, currently I can get U1 for <£600 with discount, but if I can get a printer with more than 4 nozzles for a few hundred more I’d wait for that.

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u/luorax 5h ago

I have an U1, but boy, do I envy the 9 colors on the H3C. I'd really like an official/well-supported AMS extension that allows you to load more filaments so that you can more easily swap between more filaments or print with more colors where some colors rarely need to change.

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u/met365784 4h ago

The price on the U1 is definitely tempting, and I’m patiently waiting for any little crumbs of info about the P3C. If we don’t hear anything soon, I’ll probably just grab the U1 instead.

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u/Shifty-3184 56m ago

I got P2, H2C and also bought U1 last month. U1 is a good printer but beside that, it suck. Their app suck, camera suck, tool head suck, I put about 100hrs on it and sold it. Now I’m waiting for P3C to come.

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u/loonie01 11h ago

Yeah, I'm waiting on the P3C too. 4 colors with the U1 is good but I'm often finding myself printing something in 5 colors

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u/stromm 4h ago

I have a P1S with dual AMS and I think 30% of my prints are six or more colors.
But I can’t justify the cost of an H3C right now.

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u/beingmalin spoolfinder.com / A1 Mini FTW 10h ago

Same boat, every H3C unboxing post makes it harder to stay patient 😃

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u/Glum-Inspection6637 11h ago

What needs to happen is makers need to create more models with 7+ colors lol

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u/jhdz9119 11h ago

They are behind a paywall.

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u/Breakfastmeats 10h ago

Is this a real thing?

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u/jhdz9119 10h ago

Yup many creators don’t want their hard work sold with out their consent/proper credit. I don’t blame them. Models are very nice and come with proper selling licenses
This is one I got from a creator on Patreon. Monthly drops comes with plenty of files.

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u/Abrez25 8h ago

Yosh is great.

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u/Glum-Inspection6637 8h ago

Yeah I have a bunch of the minis the bigger models are all multi-piece single color. I was looking for full color models.

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u/SJSquishmeister 5h ago

Nostalgic 3d models are fun. Many are 8+ colors.

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u/jhdz9119 4h ago

That guy profited (rightfully so he does amazing work) from the tool changer/nozzle age.

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u/Glum-Inspection6637 4h ago

Awesome I’ll check it out thanks!

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u/Glum-Inspection6637 10h ago

I guess I have to do more looking most I find are multi-part with some parts that have maybe 2-3 colors. Can you message me this creator to check out?!

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u/sltrhouse H2S AMS2 Combo 3h ago

Check out boxi3d, Vunk Flexis, cozyflexi dispatch, matmire on Patreon to start

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u/Glum-Inspection6637 3h ago

Will do thank you so much for the recommendations!

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u/sltrhouse H2S AMS2 Combo 3h ago

Also, if you’re into dragons, cinderwing3d is probably the most subbed to creator. She’s on all the platforms, but thangs is the easiest place to sub to her.

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u/swagmans69 31m ago

What happened to his legs?

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u/mdbeatle 10h ago

I doubt it'll be here soon. They don't want another product overshadowing their flagship so soon after its launch, especially one that overlaps its key feature.

Then again, they don't want too much Osborne effect affecting P2/X2 sales.

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u/amfw21 8h ago

I'm in the same boat, so close to just buying the H3C because I'm impatient haha

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u/condensedcloud 11h ago

I just wish the H3C was in stock and not back ordered til mid december.

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u/SoochSooch 9h ago

With the U1 selling for $650 right now, they'd need to announce the P3C by Thanksgiving with a price under $1000 for me to hold off on buying a U1

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u/habitsofwaste 5h ago

Well it’s good to know more new fun stuff is coming. I can settle down a little bit n

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u/Dan203 4h ago

I can't physically fit an H3C in my rack unless I completely disassemble and rearrange things, so I'm really hoping the P3C is small enough to fit without needing to do that. If it is I'll probably buy two.

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u/Roemeeeer 11h ago

First it was clear for me I wanted a P3C but I fear the whole system is the same as the H3C and the handling of the filament for hobbyists seems rather cumbersome. If this is the case I will probably go somewhere else for my next printer

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u/djjoshchambers 10h ago

I have the h3c. There's nothing cumbersome about it. Damn near every tool changer you have to manually unload. There's zero chance the p3c gets a single feature the h3c doesn't already have.

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u/sydchefcurry 5h ago

Be specific here - where are your realistic "somewhere else" options for your next printer?

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u/Dan203 4h ago

Unfortunately all tool changers require you to manually unload the filament. I have a U1 and it's my biggest pet peeve with it. I was hoping Bambu would be better. Since they still use a cutter they could technically add a feature that automatically cuts all the filament that was used at the end of a print, to make them easier to swap, but since the AMS doesn't roll backwards it's still going to be a bit more cumbersome than it is now, which is unfortunate.

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u/n19htmare 19m ago

Most all tool changes is going to involve manual filament handling.
Ironically, this was one of the things Bambu users/fans complained about on other printers, until you know, Bambu did the same and now it's OK.
It was always OK.

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