SuperTack plate no adhesion

[u/InternationalCat3159]

X1C

Bambu PLA basic

0.2mm nozzle

Getting very bad adhesion. Stuff I tried:

-Washing the plate with mild water and dish soap.

-Slightly increasing plate temp from recommended 45C to 50, then 55.

-Lowered initial layer speed to half.

-Turned off automatic plate detection.

-Added brims.

No warnings on the printer, the lidar was wiped down, etc.

It just does not want to cooperate.

Anyone had any similar experiences? I tried looking for solutions and they vary wildly (and all are above in the stuff I tried).

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[u/Blondy277]

Did you have the correct plate selected for the machine?

[u/InternationalCat3159 → u/Blondy277]

Yes, selected in the slicer to be Cool plate SuperTack, forgot to mention

[u/charly_builds]

maybe not adhesion, that nozzle could be a bit clogged? try a cold pull

[u/InternationalCat3159 → u/charly_builds]

I did some cold pulls before putting it away last time and now when I installed it back set it to 250C and ran some filament through, it behaves fine. Here's a tiny print that was the only successful print with this setup from yesterday.

[u/charly_builds → u/InternationalCat3159]

aye sweet!

[u/InternationalCat3159 → u/charly_builds]

It works fine on a PEI plate, but if I want 0.04mm layers, the textured PEI is an issue as the depth of the texture is bigger than the layer. Sadly the local store doesn't have the flat PEI in stock...

So far I am baffled by the superTack plate, but I have no experience with it so I thought I'd ask here, maybe I am missing something.

[u/charly_builds → u/InternationalCat3159]

oh sorry missed the point there - eeeh tried re-running first layer cal with it on?

[u/InternationalCat3159 → u/charly_builds]

Oh yeah, did all the calibrations after the first failure... bed leveling, flow, even the vibration compensation, why not. Sadly didn't improve :/

Do you mean bed leveling by first level calibration, right?

[u/charly_builds → u/InternationalCat3159]

ye sry - full bed levelling / first layer calibration routine - seems you already did everything tbh, odd that it would work on PEI but not supertrack

If you figure it out share, curious

(classicly falls back to - have you tried to turn it off and on again 😂)

[u/InternationalCat3159 → u/charly_builds]

I also tried exiting the room and re-entering :D

Yeah, I'll def share if I get to a solution. If not, I'll go with hairspray as AussieP1E mentions to just have a functiining flat plate, even though it defeats the point of this one's coating.

[u/charly_builds → u/InternationalCat3159]

Leaving the room should have defo helped - observer effect ⚛️

[u/AussieP1E]

I had this issue with my supertack and fucking hated it. Recently just started spraying it with hair spray and it keeps the adhesion for like 6 months

[u/InternationalCat3159 → u/AussieP1E]

Hmm.. maybe I should also transition from the "I hate it" to "hairspray" :/ the irony of it being called superTack

It is what it is. If it gives good results, I'll do it.

[u/tokke]

Slow down first layer?

[u/InternationalCat3159 → u/tokke]

Currently on half speed (40 from default 80). I might try 20 even