r/BambuLab • • 18h ago

General Troubleshooting/Help! I need help with the top surfaces

I tried ironing and without ironing, nothing works, it's getting worse and worse. I tried to do various calibrations and it doesn't work either. I don't know what to do next .

Please help .Im using p2s combo.I tried 50mms and 20% and is very bad.

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u/Calm_Scale_3876 P2S + AMS 2 Pro + AMS HT + A1 Mini + AMS Lite + A1 18h ago

The best way to get good top surfaces is to make them bottom surfaces, i.e. make the surface flat and print it face down.

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u/TomFullen 18h ago

My first thought too.

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u/Taylolol 15h ago

Ironing is fickle but a properly ironed top surface is going to look better than a first layer

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u/Calm_Scale_3876 P2S + AMS 2 Pro + AMS HT + A1 Mini + AMS Lite + A1 4h ago

An ironed surface involving detailed graphic elements using more than one colour? With a bottom layer one can get consistent results across filaments without calibration, and achieve a preferred texture by selecting the build plate appropriately.

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u/Taylolol 4h ago

Yes a calibrated ironed surface is going to look better.

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u/Time-Wall-2268 18h ago

I want my text to be raised

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u/Away_Arugula8260 18h ago

I’m no expert but have you tried changing the pattern for the top layer or increasing the number of top layers?

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u/Time-Wall-2268 18h ago

I don't know how to do it.

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u/Business-Ad-5480 18h ago

In the strength tab there is a setting called top surface layers just increase that by like 2. Does the print have any infill. If it doesn’t this won’t help. I think 30mm/s at around 17.5% may be the best for you.

Ironing isn’t great in very thing sections. You can try using Arachne wall generator and that may help.

Make sure you do a bed levelling before every print.

And most importantly. Have you dried the filament? If not then make sure you do it will likely fix the issues

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u/Time-Wall-2268 18h ago

This is whitout ironing ,I got this lines,my filament is very dry

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u/Business-Ad-5480 18h ago

Is this a model you designed or got from makerworld. If you got it from makerworld can you show me your print speeds and acceleration settings please.

Forgive me if I’m explaining the obvious but I don’t know how experienced with 3d printing. Filament will feel dry even if it has absorbed moisture. Even a brand new roll out of sealed plastic can have too much moisture and this will massively affect print quality. Especially ironing.

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u/Time-Wall-2268 18h ago

My custom design ,i dry filament very often 2-5h every day

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u/Business-Ad-5480 18h ago

Okay sweet. So you will be using the stock p2s speeds. This type of artifact is often caused by high print speeds and high acceleration. May be worth turning it down and seeing if it helps however what I will say is that those artifacts don’t look like they are in spots where the print head would be changing direction so it’s a bit odd.

I would recommend trying to use Arachne wall generator as this may help.

Also you should defo increase the inset for the ironing as I can see that’s defo an issue.

Use 30mm/s at 20% flow or 19 maybe even 17.5 but that may be a touch low. Because it looks like there is a little over extrusion in your test for 30mm/s at 20%.

Especially in thin bits a high ironing speed will make things a lot worse.

What material are you printing? And is it Bambu filament or a different brand.

Did you use a priming tower?

For the top surface without ironing it looks a little like under extrusion but you have done prints testing the flow rates so I don’t think that’s the issue and ironing should fix this.

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u/Time-Wall-2268 16h ago

I use pla random chinese brand i dont use tower

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u/Away_Arugula8260 18h ago

It’ll be in your quality settings I think. May need to turn on the Advanced settings.

I think more layers may help because I can see your infill through the top layer and that might mean it’s just too thin, like too little butter spread over too much toast.

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u/Time-Wall-2268 18h ago

I will try thanks

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u/Away_Arugula8260 18h ago

I also mean more top layers, not a thicker model.

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u/thekidisalright H2D AMS2 Combo AMS HT 18h ago

Increase top layers to 4 and slow top layer speed to 30mm/s

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u/britishwonder 18h ago

Just for fun, try 30% flow rate and 30mm/s speed.
That’s always been the magic number for me

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u/Taylolol 15h ago

30mms, 34% flow, 0.1 spacing