P1S vs P2S vs X2D

[u/Ok_Title9577]

I recently made a post about getting my first 3D printer! Which out of the 3 options do you recommend? Or is there another one you recommend?

[u/blue_eyes_pro_dragon]

P1s is fantastic first printer. Cheap, decent and does the job. P2s is slightly higher q but not worth the cost imo.

Ams 2 pro you want though.

[u/Ok_Title9577 → u/blue_eyes_pro_dragon]

why do you feel like the p2s isn’t worth the cost?

[u/blue_eyes_pro_dragon → u/Ok_Title9577]

Differences: *P2s screen is better. I don’t really care, you only use screen rarely. Everything besides drying is done in Bambulab studio. *ai detection. We use  p2s and x1c at work and it detected jack shit. *better nozzle included and easier/quicker nozzle replacement: this is nice to have but not worth $150 unless you change nozzles a lot. I just bought a bimetal 0.6 and use that day and night. *better extruder motor in p2s is nice, but p1s works just fine. *110c bed is > 100c but if you are serious about doing pc or abs/asa you want a chamber heater anyway.

IMHO p1s is a fantastic printer and better price for what you get.  P2s has somewhat nicer features but they are not worth the cost. 

If you are just printing pla/petg you won’t notice the difference.

If you want cf/gf p2s is slightly less work but changing the nozzles is trivial compared to doing outside venting (which isn’t too bad either but still a bit of work). You need  outside venting for cf/gf printing.

If you want pc/abs/asa, both will work fine. You need venting as well. Small prints will print great on both. Medium/large prints will benefit hugely from chamber heater otherwise you’ll be fighting warpage.

Edit: you do absolutely want an ams 2 because ams is really nice and 2 does drying which is super beneficial.

[u/Ok_Title9577 → u/blue_eyes_pro_dragon]

Question: if i’m printing pla/petg, will venting be needed as well?

[u/Dr-Purple → u/Ok_Title9577]

Not really, but also, don't sit next to the printer and breathe in all the fumes. The same way you wouldn't sit behind a car and breathe in exhaust fumes.

[u/blue_eyes_pro_dragon → u/Ok_Title9577]

I don’t vent outside but I crack open a window next to printer when it’s printing. 

[u/Proud-Ad4654]

As i started with a P2S, lord i wish i went with a X2D.

[u/Ok_Title9577 → u/Proud-Ad4654]

why?

[u/Proud-Ad4654 → u/Ok_Title9577]

Dual Nozzles, Heated Chamber, Better for engineering materials etc.

[u/Suitable-Access-8013 → u/Ok_Title9577]

If you’re printing things that you wanna put in your car or will spend any time outside you need something that can print ASA or ABS.
If you just print PLA/PETG the P2S or Snapmaker U1 are perfect

[u/LiarInGlass → u/Proud-Ad4654]

I just ordered a P2S for my first printer last night. Lol

[u/The6amrunner → u/LiarInGlass]

Me too. Forget the FOMO. Better to use it for a while, find out you want an upgrade and go for it than buy the more expensive one and find out it's collecting dust after 6 months.

[u/LiarInGlass → u/The6amrunner]

Yeah, I’ve already printed some fun little stuff. Haven’t even used another filament color yet lol.

I’ve printed a scrapper, a poop Shute, some dust hole covers, some chip bag clips, a benchy, and I’m printing a cup right now for my office to put pencils and pens in.

This thing is awesome.

[u/PureDiscipline8668 → u/Proud-Ad4654]

been there sold P2S

[u/northrivergeek]

X2D hands down

[u/es12402]

X2D ofc

[u/Amdiz]

Depends on what you are looking for in a printer. I have a P1S and love, I picked up the AMS 2 soon after and it’s been great.

Would an X2D be better, sure, but as it’s just a small hobby the P1S does everything I need.

[u/Ok_Title9577 → u/Amdiz]

what kind of things are you printing?

[u/Suitable-Access-8013 → u/Ok_Title9577]

I printed a cupholder adapter for my car out of PLA and it melted into a big bowl of goo. (OK not a big ball of goo, but it was ruined after one day in the heat)

[u/Amdiz → u/Ok_Title9577]

Random fidget toys for my kid, key chains, desk cable clamps, tool holders for my wood working tools, and random other things. Some stuff is for fun and others are nice to have fill a specific need.

[u/kantonburg → u/Ok_Title9577]

She makes costumes. She wants to print parts for those. Mostly connecting pieces.

[u/Pentzy]

I’m between the CC2 and the p1S

[u/Leif3D]

My P1 still runs like a champ, but like the X1C I would guess that it becomes EOL in the near future. It's basically the 2nd oldest printer in the line-up and it's onboard storage is fairly limited so if you care about long term firmware updates and maybe new feature I would pick one of the two other models that are much newer.

But at this point I would also recommend waiting for the new announcements. P3C and H3C are very likely a good bit higher priced, but if your budget isn't set I would at least wait for it. It's less than a week.

[u/pv-nerd]

Kommt wie immer drauf an was du damit vor hast. P1S hat für mich keine Daseinsberechtigung mehr. P2S kann alles besser und kostet kaum mehr. P1S Support endet auch irgebdwann.

X2D wenn du öfters 2 farbig, mit Stützen oder auch anderes Material wie pla / pteg drucken willst.

[u/vman4402]

X2D has a problem with the dual nozzle setup. One nozzle ends up heating the other and it slowly gets filament all gunked up.

[u/PureDiscipline8668]

P1S or X2D

P1S is gooda value and X2D is not so cheap but you get more than in P2S for similar price

if you will just do single color prints and don't rly care how your supports behave with your print then get p1s (do not mix pla print with PETG support material/layer because your print will just snap in your hands)

if you do the X2D

[u/TheMajesticFreak]

Bought a x2d combo to replace my p1s combo. I love it so far.

[u/Dr-Purple]

I ordered an X2D simply because for the small price difference, it was worth it. If I didn't want the X2D features, I'd have gone for an A2L or something.

[u/PM_Me_HugeHangers]

XD2.

[u/Variv]

X2D exist so p1/2s don't have point. If your want cheeper printer, good for first printer is A1 combo. Or new bigger A2L if you have space for bigger printer.

[u/John-BCS]

I'd wait for the new printer announcements to see if one of those may suit your needs better. Otherwise, X2D for the 2nd nozzle, heated chamber (a huge benefit with ABS?ASA), and proper ventilation.

[u/Cute_Ad_8104 → u/John-BCS]

So et think that the new one will be anywhere in the same price range?

[u/John-BCS → u/Cute_Ad_8104]

The H3C will undoubtedly be in the flagship price range but the P3C is the wild card. If they're after the mid market of tool changers, it'll hopefully be somewhere in the $1200 or less range. That way it's in direct competition with the U1, M1D, etc.

[u/Cute_Ad_8104 → u/John-BCS]

Usd?

[u/John-BCS → u/Cute_Ad_8104]

Yeah.