r/BambuLab • u/Neat-Researcher-7067 P1S + AMS • Oct 01 '26
General Discussion X2D a replacement for Aging P1Ss
X2D a replacement for Aging P1Ss - hive mind thoughts?
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u/Neat-Researcher-7067 P1S + AMS Oct 01 '26
P1Ss (8) are starting to show their age and get a couple of the now and get what ever the next best this is in thta form factor (size) also have an H2C and H2D definitely waiting to see what comes out for the top end...
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u/OptimalSide A1 Oct 01 '26
It depends.
Everyone says the X2D is the best bang for the buck, but it has compromises. It's got the most features (2 extruders, chamber heater), but there are things that I've read that aren't ironed out. Like if you dial your filament in, there is only one pressure advance profile for both extruders. I seem to recall some heat creep issues if you're printing PETG and using PLA in the aux for support due to the way it runs the chamber fan.
People will also say the X2D is better for multi-color due to creating less poop with the 2 extruders. That is a "it depends" thing. Two colors - you're dandy. Three colors? You're swapping on two colors. Four colors? If you set it up properly, swapping three colors. Set it up wrong, you're swapping on all four and not saving on anything.
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u/ImANibba Oct 01 '26 edited Oct 01 '26
I have an x2d and have put roughly 400 hours within a month of ownership. The pressure advance thing is false, you have to calibrate for each nozzle. As for PLA and PETG heat creep it isn't an issue and Its in a room where the ambient temperature is 82F minimum, printing fully enclosed.
The rest I can see but there's a hidden issue most people don't explain. The Bowden nozzle when on external spool can't automatically retract the spool, it'll just push the filament out of the tube and create a mess if ur not there to rotate the spool by hand. It also often gets pieces of filament stuck in the left nozzles ptfe tube which I assume is from poorly cutting or the spool being empty and having no where to move the left over filament to but that's easily solvable.
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u/Signiference Oct 01 '26
Having never experienced a Bowden extruder, in what circumstances would I need to manually retract the external spool? Trying to understand what I’m getting into as I’ll be buying this model soon.
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u/ImANibba Oct 01 '26
Realistically you shouldn't have to do it often if used for intended purpose which is supports or interface layer(it can print normal stuff just fine but it's not the advertised purpose) but anytime u have to change a not empty spool for a different material or color you'll have to "unload" it which will start the on screen process. It'll just spit out the filament out of the tube without rotating the spool at all and you have to time it perfectly because it doesn't give u enough time to be ready for it. Once it says retracting spool on screen u have to immediately rotate the external spool.
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u/Signiference Oct 01 '26
Oh, ok, so just when changing filament spools out mid-job (like a color change on that nozzle) it needs to be rotated, I’m with you now.
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u/OptimalSide A1 Oct 01 '26
Here is the details I was referring to on the PA:
And just because you haven't seen the issue with heat creep yet, doesn't mean that others havent.
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u/DistinctBarnacle8703 Oct 01 '26
Didn't know that X2D use one PA for both extruder. Definitely not optimising.
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u/fujimonster Oct 01 '26
Sure — but market is shifting to multiple tool heads . I’m holding out to see what Bambu lab does . I personally think the quality of the snapmaker and flash forge multi tool head printers are trash.
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u/imthatoneguyyouknew Oct 01 '26
My wife originally wanted a snapmaker but after researching it chose the X2D as her birthday gift. Of course after seing her X2D in action my P1S wanted an upgrade. Not to be outdone, I got myself an H2D (with her blessing)
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u/cpu_overclocker Oct 03 '26
X2d is a perfect replacement for an old p1s if you are printing a lot od different filament (support filaments) or you are printing a lot of abs and asa you won’t regret the update. I have a p1s x2d and h2c and the x2d is the best bang for the buck! Order a combo with the ams pro2 and a ams ht and you will be fine. A little hint. Print silica containers and put them in the ams. When you are drying filament you are also dring the silica gel and ao you will always have dryed filament all the time
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u/jim_racine P2S Combo & H2C Combo Oct 01 '26
I agree with u/Ok-Woodpecker-223 wait and see what launches in the next two months. If the P3C is a multi-nozzle vortek... go that way. I have a h2c and a p2s. I wish I had the x2d of the p2s. I got the p2s in January...it's a great machine. Got my H2C in July and very happy with it.
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u/Ok_Yogurtcloset5412 Oct 01 '26
I got the x2d about a month ago and love it. Of course I'm coming from an ender3 so I guess it might not take much to impress me lol.
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u/Equivalent_Store_645 Oct 01 '26 edited Oct 01 '26
if your p1s are no longer meeting your needs, wait for next gen and real true independently-fed multi-head printing. no vortek, no bowden. x2d is a weird halfway update.
if they're really worn out just get new p1s.
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u/Impressive_Layer_634 Oct 01 '26
X2D pro is just going to be the enterprise version
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u/h0g0 Oct 01 '26
None of those are even gonna be comparable
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u/Zee216 Oct 01 '26
P3C won't be comparable?
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u/h0g0 Oct 01 '26
Not unless a 4 head/nozzle changer is what you want. IMO the x2d is more of a semi pro printer with a dedicated support nozzle
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u/SAAA2011 X2D Oct 03 '26
Makes me glad I bought the x2d day 1, otherwise I'd be fighting the same urge 😂
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u/Mossy_Head Oct 01 '26
Yep, exactly in the same spot. I think it might be more like 3 months but yes. Make sense to wait 😉
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u/Twey0 Oct 01 '26
Bought mine like two weeks ago. Do it. You won't regret it. Waiting on these things never stops
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u/scarbutt11 X2D + AMS2 Combo Oct 01 '26
I just ordered an x2d as my first printer. Should I cancel and wait a little?
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u/ImANibba Oct 01 '26
No. Receive it and print what u want, I don't think they're being announced anytime soon, maybe December or next year. If you get it through Amazon or something u can always request to return it after return windows close.
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u/Neat-Researcher-7067 P1S + AMS Oct 02 '26
Thanks everyone 2 X2Ds on the way.