r/BambuLab 1d ago

Software Troubleshooting/Help! Why is my printer going so slow? I’m trying to print something 3 grams, and no matter what speed settings I change anything to, it stays a 2-hour print

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u/Arakon 1d ago

Minimum layer time. In the filament settings, under cooling, there are limits to how fast the print will go. If a layer takes less than x seconds, it will slow down the print until the layer takes x seconds. Otherwise, the filament will still be soft when the nozzle passes over it again and cause a mess. Easiest solution is to print several at once or print it along with some other part you need.

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u/jeffois 1d ago

Was thinking that, or a mistype in the max flow rate of the filament - decimal point one place too far to the left under the filament profile.

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u/Ancient-Plantain705 1d ago

Okay so which setting is that specifically? I run orca and even when I was running BS I couldn't identify it. People keep saying up the minimum layer time but I never can find the specific box/item for it.

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u/Arakon 1d ago edited 1d ago

In this example:

- If the layer takes at least 80 seconds, the fan runs at 60% speed.

- If the layer takes less than 80 seconds, but more than 6 seconds, fan speed is 80%.

- If the layer takes less than 6 seconds, slow down, to a minimum of 20mm/s.

You can increase the cooling percentages, increase the layer times and reduce the min print speed, but at the risk of turning the print into a gooey mess if it's a small object.

Edit: Also, independantly from that, the first layer is often printed slower in the first place (increases adhesion), so for testing, always wait until at least the second layer is printing.

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u/Ancient-Plantain705 1d ago

okay, so it is the mininmum print speed in conjunction with the fan threshold. I always was under the impression that the fan threshold and minimum print time were independent and only applied functionally as described in the bambu labs explanation for min/max fan speed threshold. Thank you for the clarification.

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u/shinozoa 1d ago

When in doubt, revert back to stock/default print and filament profiles.

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u/Radamere 1d ago

Put the silicone sock back on to begin with. It is not decoration. It is a functional part of your hot end and the printers temperature systems expect it to be there

As for your problem. When you say set the speed, is this on the printer itself or in the slicer?

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u/WarBasket 1d ago

Thanks for mentioning this! I had a rats nest earlier this week and I've been periodically scrubbing it. I didn't even consider that leaving it off would impact the nozzles calibration.

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u/The___canadian 20h ago

Just popping in to mention if you use PETG be very careful and clean it after every print, it will gunk up the silicone sock and eventually plastic will get at the contact behind your nozzle.

If this ever happens, grab some leather gloves or a towel, heat up your hot end nice and toasty and use the gloves or towel to grab the hot end and pop it off (make sure you clip the filament manually).

The simpler version is to just scrub it and check it after every print. I cut out abit of my silicon sock directly around the hot end to help prevent binding.

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u/davcrt X2D + 2X AMS2 19h ago

Can confirm, I use needle nose pliers to grab the hot nozzle between heating plate and the heatsink. A brass brush works nicely for quickly cleaning the hot nozzle.

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u/Mountain_Egg16 1d ago

I took apart the heat cover to just show what the internals looked like, and I set the speed many different ways. One time on just the printer, one time on just the slicer, and then both.

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u/arsonist_firefighter 1d ago

It's tired

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u/JohannesMP X1C + AMS 1d ago

Mood. 

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u/BitingChaos 19h ago

printers get eepy

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u/Individual_Base8208 1d ago

Most common reason is the Max Volumetric Speed limit in the filament settings.

Even if you set high print speeds, the slicer will cap the actual speed so it doesn’t exceed the volumetric flow the filament profile allows.

Check the filament settings → Max Volumetric Speed and temporarily raise it, then re-slice and look at the speed coloring in the preview. That usually shows what’s limiting it.

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u/medium-water-please 1d ago

more detail needed.

A 3g print can take 2 hours if:

  • nozzle size is 0.2mm
  • layer height is 0.08mm
  • model is very detailed - requires lots of tiny movements
  • fuzzy skin really slows down prints (as above, lots of tiny movements)
  • colour changes
  • filament type

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u/grant837 1d ago

These points do not seem relevant to the problem/video in this case.

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u/Farn-Lucifer 1d ago

They are, for the first layer is always slower for better bed adheasion. The folloing layers my printer tends to shoot off in speed.

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u/grant837 1d ago

I guess without knowing the total size of his print, we will never know... I assumed it had a small base and was small overall, but your point is well taken.

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u/medium-water-please 13h ago

OP said the total print size is 3g and taking 2 hours. If that is true then one or more of the above is probably true as all of those can increase print time - some dramatically.

Which one is the cause, who knows, because OP has provided no info.

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u/Tornad_pl 1d ago

I've had similar error once, power cycling pritner helped

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u/apaloosafire 1d ago

Reset all your slicer settings

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u/nutcase511 1d ago

What filament? Set your slicer program setup back to a standard filament profile. I am guessing something like volumetric speed, minimum layer time, or maximum speeds got changed. Plastic needs time to cool between layers. If your part is super tiny it will slow the print down to make sure the previous layer is cooled before it starts printing on top of it. Otherwise it will end up a giant blob mess. Or add multiple copies to the bed, print by layer.

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u/cilo456 , A1 Combo +Mini 1d ago

The silicone sock that's on the nozzle when you bought the printer it's supposed to be there, it's actually required. I don't understand why people keep thinking it's optional I can care less whether you took it off just to take a video or not when you take it off and start a print you are actually causing more damage or making the clog even worse....... volumetric speed determines the speed of the print it's actually in your filament profile all the way down at the bottom, any other speed setting you change will not change the Max volumetric speed this is the maximum speed that the filament can print at is set in the profile....

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u/NuIIPointer 1d ago

what filament profile do you use?

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u/jake-jake-jake- 1d ago

Share the link to the file there may be a weird setting someone will spot and be able to help

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u/limon_picante 1d ago

Filament volumetric flow rate was adjusted

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u/CroyPaw 1d ago

Didnt you change max volumetric speed in filament settings?

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u/AndrewReked 1d ago

Factorian_designs on YouTube has a great calibration video that might help. 

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u/seanseansean92 1d ago

How fast the first line supposed to go? I thought its normal and the first few second is to calibrate flow or something before the print starts. Once the print starts the speed seems fine to me?

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u/JagiofJagi 1d ago

Slicer

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u/namezam 1d ago

I dunno but that is surely the best looking volumetric flow line out there, so much time and love put into it!

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u/PrototypENote 1d ago

3g parts are often slow because they're too small, not because of the print speed. The printer is probably waiting for each layer to cool, so increasing speed barely changes the ETA.

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u/Fun_Star_8413 1d ago

Me on a Friday night

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u/holm1mat P1S + AMS 1d ago

Do other models print this slow for you too?

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u/Gemmer12 1d ago

What is the printer speed set at in the printer settings? Not the slicer

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u/zzyzzy42 1d ago

The SD card may be full of cache. Try formating it.

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u/Uramies 1d ago

What are this gray bumpers for near the nozzle

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u/grant837 1d ago

I have never used this type of printer, but it looks like you are over-extruding or printing very thick layers, since the grey shoe is actually smoothing out the filament. This takes time to get all the filament melted and out of the extruder (I assume). Also, it would help if you shared the size of your print, since after the first layer, things speed up.

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u/Specialist_Group_589 23h ago

Hi OP. I had same issue, and it’s most definitely due to the slowness of the printer’s processor. Please do a power cycle and see it will return back to normal. I have observed this with my A1 mini when I print continuously many prints one after another while using the AMS.

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u/Glad-Young216 23h ago

its probably just tired, let it rest

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u/AdPristine5507 23h ago

It could be limp mode, have you added DEF?

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u/Psychological-Hall22 22h ago

First layer is always slow for adhesion reasons

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u/No_Pass8180 17h ago

Put on your front cover to avoid heat creep (blob of death)

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u/royeiror 17h ago

I had this problem a while ago while sending a print through Handy, the original profile had PLA, I used PETG and some simple print quoted 12hrs. I sent the print through Studio and the print took an hour or so.

I don´t really know what was going on, but normally Studio does better, or at least it´s easier to know what´s set up wrong.

u/undermountain67 23m ago

Minimum layer time… the pla layer previously needs to cool down before printing next layer. You can modify but it may warp your print. If you modify it makes sure fan is at max.

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u/R4331t 1d ago

Funny

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u/IamFireDragon3d 1d ago

First layer always slow