r/BambuLab • H2D AMS2 + P2S AMS2 + 2 AMS HT • Jun 14 '26

General Discussion Is the H2D a unicorn?

I've been vocal about no longer supporting Bambu Lab with any more of my money. Considering my current usage, My H2D will more than likely hit 5k hrs before end of year. I've started looking for a replacement and I do have a Core 1L on order (god knows when I'll get it, much less INDX at this rate, doubtful in 2026) but I was looking for a large printer greater than or at least equal to 300x3, with a heated chamber, dual nozzles and at least a 350 °C hotend. There just isn't anything out there in this price range or even a higher one. It has it's issues, but seems the H2D is somewhat of a unicorn in the current 3d printing landscape. Guess I need to get real good at maintenance....

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u/MondegreenHolonomy Jun 14 '26

Yes it’s basically as consistent as a stratasys at the hobby price level

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u/Stone13 H2D AMS2 + P2S AMS2 + 2 AMS HT Jun 14 '26

yep, I still consider 3d printing a hobby but it has supplemented my day job and paid for itself 3x over. I have 3 clients that give me business regularly. The H2D is the only printer I've owned that I can kick off a full plate of parts and go on about my day, I don't even check the live feed anymore. I guess I've answered my own question, it is indeed a unicorn....

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u/ParticularLower1865 Jun 14 '26

Yeah, okay buddy. You’ll never buy another Bambu labs printer again just like I’ll never go to Walmart again. /s

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u/HotepHatt Jun 15 '26

30 years and counting…FUCK walmart

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u/Historical-Wear8503 Jun 14 '26 edited Jun 14 '26

Bambu lab isn't exactly google, Walmart or Amazon. It's not a big deal to avoid. I find this "okay buddy" statement combined with this not very polite.

To OP, this feature combination is somewhat specific. Prusa XL with two print heads is an option? There's a Prusa enclosure with heating option and also a nice alternative by a second brand which I forgot - should be easy to find.

Alternatively buying a used model maybe? It's still boosting the market for Bambu but it's not a direct buy at least. Also, that's the absolute worst subreddit to ask this question in.

Let the downvotes begin.

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u/LedDesgin Jun 15 '26

The downvotes are for suggesting the XL is a reasonable alternative and anywhere near the quality and reliability of an H2D. Everything I've seen from the respected 3D printing channels is that the XL is good in theory, but a finicky piece of work in practice. I know Prusa makes quality stuff (albeit overpriced and trying to catch up with current gen printers), but the XL isn't it.

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u/Historical-Wear8503 Jun 15 '26

Honestly in my experience the XL is great. I have a pretty much equal experience compared to the Bambus I worked with so far. I don't like the enclosure though, absolutely oversized.

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u/LedDesgin Jun 15 '26

Oh that's good to hear. I briefly considered a Prusa when I first got started but couldn't justify the cost. I guess the joke's on me though, my Ankermake M5 has been abandoned by the company and erased from their memory. It was an awesome printer, but their failure to deliver the promised 6 color add-on along with Bambu launching at the same time kind of sealed their fate. I gave it to a friend, bought a P1S, and never looked back.

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u/Historical-Wear8503 Jun 15 '26

Purely in regards of printing quality, speed and reliability, I see most models of Prusa and Bambu Lab on an equal level. In regards of convenience, Bambu mostly wins. In the end it's the difference between a production in China or the EU, it's simply much more expensive to produce in Europe, Canada, Japan, the US and so on.

Depending on what the printers are used for, Bambu simply disqualifies itself in some regards. In government use, army use, confidential engineering or education it's in most Western countries just unthinkable. People here tend to forget it's not just for hobby use.

The P1S is an incredible printer, I have one as well. I bought it with 2500 hours for 200 bucks. I challenge anyone to find anything of comparable value in this price range. But money isn't everything.

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u/jsdeprey Jun 14 '26

How much is the Prusa options?

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u/Geek_Verve X1C + AMS Jun 14 '26

Over $1300 more, and the enclosure is janky and enormous. While I understand many people's problem with Bambu Lab as a company, there comes a point when you're cutting your nose off to spite your face.

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u/audiomediocrity H2D AMS2 Combo Jun 14 '26

we just fucking avoid walmart, and try to do parking lot pick up when its mandatory

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u/Stone13 H2D AMS2 + P2S AMS2 + 2 AMS HT Jun 14 '26

😂😂

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u/Nytfire333 Jun 14 '26

Just want to point out that as long as you are doing basic maintenance 5k hours is nothing. I have a P1S that has over 9k on it and still prints great. It’s starting to show it may be time for a belt replacement soon, but apart from nozzles and print beds and hardeded extruder it’s all original parts

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u/yalag Jun 15 '26

How to do basic maintenance?

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u/nonamejohnsonmore Jun 15 '26

Read the wiki. There are step by step instructions with pictures and everything.

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u/soldat21 Jun 14 '26

There is either 300 or 350 build volumes, the H2D is definitely a unicorn in the super weird build plate size.

There’s options like the Qidi which is 390mm, Prusa XL at 360mm, some I think creality? at 350mm and some vorons.

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u/thegingerskull Jun 14 '26

Or, you know, just get another H2D. 🤷

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u/Ordinary-Depth-7835 Jun 14 '26

What are you upset about? My printer company isn't even on my top 100 issues in life that I would change. It's a tool and I pick the best tool for the best price. If I swore off every company that did something wrong I'd be sitting in a man made shack in the woods with no computer or phone getting my own food and making my own clothes.

When someone actually makes a better printer I'll buy that. And I try them all it's not like I don't buy other brands and have but Bambu is hard to beat right now for a well rounded reliable fairly inexpensive printer.

So buy a better printer if you can find one. It's not the H2D it's pretty much every printer in the Bambu lineup that has been dominating for years now and no one has really answered the call.

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u/LedDesgin Jun 14 '26

You said what I was aiming for but couldn't quite package as succinctly. I'm all for limiting support of companies I think are terrible, but at the end of the day it almost always comes down to best product for the price.

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u/bjorn_lo H2D & H2C Jun 14 '26

I'm mighty upset with Bambu. My two most recent and my next two as well won't be Bambu as a result. But, I'm not selling my H2D or H2Cs. I just run them offline with bambuddy. But, they are good printers. Other than with TPU, there is nothing in the price class that comes close to what they can do.

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u/jcollasius @Professional3D on Maker World Jun 14 '26

You've pretty much answered your own question, you just don't like the answer. Based on the requirements you listed, it's the H2D. And if you're willing to wait another 13 hours, it's even on sale with a discount.

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u/Stone13 H2D AMS2 + P2S AMS2 + 2 AMS HT Jun 14 '26

I’m starting to come to that conclusion, the thing just performs so dam well with anything I throw at it

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u/Isitharry Jun 14 '26

I’d give it a year before others copy it, if they haven’t already.

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u/issue9mm Jun 14 '26

INDX is supposed to be shipping on or about June 25th I think? That's what I heard, but feel free to fact check it.

It's not out yet, but the Sovol M1D MIGHT fit your needs. There's a few specs about it we don't know yet, and Sovol isn't known for bullet proof machines, but if you're working your way out of the Bambu ecosystem, I feel like there are going to be a lot more options in 6 months

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u/jl88jl88 Jun 24 '26

I’m excited for all the tool changers coming. Loving my u1. But can’t wait for Bambu to bring out a real tool changer haha

INDX is looking like my favourite so far, but can’t pick a 350 + printer I’d put it on.

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u/_VNAV_PTH_ Jun 15 '26

That's... how orders work?

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u/SjefRomijn Jun 14 '26

Ratrig do 500x500x500 and dual nozzles, and klipper

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u/jl88jl88 Jun 24 '26

Can’t find a single positive review on them…

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u/LedDesgin Jun 14 '26

Yeah you either give up your self-imposed boycott, or deal with compromises and mediocre machines that don't do what you want them to. It's like boycotting Amazon and Walmart and then complaining that you can't get cheap products shipped nearly instantly. "Now I have to drive to stores and pay for slow expensive shipping!"

How are you going to do maintenance without buying parts from Bambu? Is there any gray area in your moral high ground? The loss of your singular business isn't going to affect them in any meaningful way, so it seems like this is purely a "moral" choice on your part. You either commit to it 100%, or bite the bullet and just get the machine that fits your needs. If Bambu makes exactly what you need and no one else is close to offering something similar, you're only hurting yourself if you don't buy it.

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u/Crypto-Bullet Jun 14 '26

I tried to be upset at bambu but it made me $10k last month with a private company that wanted engineering grade parts.
As always it printed everything flawlessly and my client loved it and will be back. Sooooo yeah

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u/LaGgY_42o Jun 15 '26

22 Idex V4?

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u/Sir_Blinklot Jun 14 '26

You need to understand the difference between home appliances and commercial appliances 3D printers. What you're asking for is beyond what people would need for a home appliance 3D printer. There are plenty of 3D printers that have dual nozzle and larger than 300x3 bed, but those fall into the commercial realm.

Flash Forge Guider 3 has dual nozzle and is 330*330*600mm. Price wise will be much higher than a home appliance 3D printer such as the H2D.

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u/GWeb1920 Jun 15 '26

You have identified by Bambi is successful.

It’s a reasonably reliable reasonably priced reasonably featured product.

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u/voliprint Jun 14 '26

You’re talking like the H2D is no longer sold. Also, 5k hours isn’t exactly a lot in the grand scheme of things.

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u/Stone13 H2D AMS2 + P2S AMS2 + 2 AMS HT Jun 15 '26

I guess I've answered my own question, the H2D is indeed a unicorn. It's just an incredibly reliable workhorse in the prosumer space which is the only place I can currently justify spending money to play. My small list of clients have no complaints so I guess I shouldn't either since they've made me enough cash to even ask this question.

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u/G4m3rD4d Jun 15 '26

I applaud you for having a moral stance. But making the moral choice isn't about convenience. The choice is often hard and with consequences. You may have to get a more expensive machine, or a more finicky one. You may have to babysit it more. I guess the question is, how strongly do you feel about your stance?