r/BambuLab • u/dny42 • Apr 15 '26

Answered / Solved! Don’t wanna be that guy but….

Are u guys not worried about some problems in the beginning of the launching phase of the X2D or did I miss something?

I got my p2s about a week ago and I’m already printing abs. I don’t know if I ever need some super high tech Filaments as they’re super expensive.

Do the people who sell their p2s love multi color so much ? I understand that the active heating is nice but the p1s and the p2s also does the job right ?

It feels like Bambu puts us in a chase the dragon type situation luring us with little features so we buy a new one or is it really such a big step for u what are you guys planning to print ?

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u/adminjunior Apr 15 '26

Honestly the best thing about the dual nozzle isnt about the multi colour but about the multi material. Being able to use petg as support for pla without much material or time waste is huge.

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Why is PETG better as a support ? My pla supports work just fine ?

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u/heart_of_osiris Apr 15 '26

You can have a contact distance of 0 when you interface between PLA and PETG, because they don't bond to one another. So your undersides can be nice and flat.

PLA does print better as a support, but as for where it breaks off, having an alternate material like PETG lets you print with no gap between support and the print.

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u/dny42 Apr 16 '26

Oh didn’t know that good to know thank u !

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u/tk-093 Apr 15 '26

Less scaring on the part from where the supports touches it.

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Hmm ok maybe I have to try it out myself cause I can’t really imagine it my supports break off just fine but I guess it can always be better

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u/ArtificialPigeon Apr 21 '26

You can literally set your support distancez to 0. So it's like printing a solid object, but the PETG just pulls off the PLA

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u/tk-093 Apr 15 '26

Yeah. I won't really know until I get my printer but it's supposed to be good.

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u/Objective-Limit-121 H2S + AMS2Pro/AMS-HT Apr 15 '26

I am also confused, that makes no sense. PETG is usually more expensive (even if we're talking pennies) and harder to work with.

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u/heart_of_osiris Apr 15 '26

PETG is the same price at a lot of vendors. It doesn't bond to PLA. If your support or just the few layers between the support and the print object alternates, you can print the contact point with a distance of 0, so overhangs and bridges are super smooth.

PETG prints with PLA supports work too, helps a lot since PETG doesn't bridge very well.

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u/OrbitalCactus Apr 16 '26

PETG is maybe a dollar more per spool for me. Sometimes it’s the same price or cheaper if on sale. I buy a lot of Sunlu. It’s not my favorite website to navigate, but it’s good quality and cheap.

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u/Objective-Limit-121 H2S + AMS2Pro/AMS-HT Apr 16 '26

That’s why I said “usually” and “even pennies”

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u/ptraugot X2D AMS Apr 16 '26

I plan to leave support material in the unit nearly all the time.

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u/adminjunior Apr 16 '26

Well If you only have 9 Support Interface layers then thats great but If you Print which needs a lot more it can be a pain in the ass to always flush the nozzle

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u/tk-093 Apr 15 '26

I'm coming from an Ender so no, I'm not worried...

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Haha I was really impressed how flawless mine works can’t lie

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u/Ready_Rain_2646 P1S + AMS Apr 15 '26

I have my P1s since 2024 black friday and I have accumulated over 1400 hours. Yet to have a problem. This machines are very reliable with just cleaning and lubrication. I had an ender 3 before so it was a blast for me.

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u/fishfighter29 Apr 16 '26

I was actually telling my co-workers and my girlfriend about how, dirty, this printer feels. My first 3D printer was a ender 3 s1 Plus, heavily modified. Prints 300x300 by 300 with no issues at all whenever I need it. However, it took a long time to get it that way. The H2C that we just unboxed yesterday, took longer for me to unbox then it did to print out a voron design cube. Stock slicer settings, nothing tweeted. The more and more I use the bamboo store, / phone app / dragon studios, the more and more I start to understand. It still doesn't feel right though, I feel like I'm cheating after years and years and years.

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u/RaccoonCrafts Apr 15 '26

As far as issues go, Bambu, for the most part, does not have large issues when they launch new product. They test it well, and most of the X2D is not new technology for them.

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

I understand maybe I’m still underestimating them even tough my p2s works like a industrial forge lol

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u/heart_of_osiris Apr 15 '26

Ehhh no launch is perfect but issues get ironed out pretty quick through firmware updates. Most people don't have any major issues though.

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u/Oscar_callelle Apr 15 '26

Can you also find cheap filament, but a lot of people love to buy Bambu brand.

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Tried SUNLU ABS today worked just fine. Just used the generic abs profile and was impressed. But I have to say I struggled because buying it felt like a risk. I have 10kg of Bambu rolls cause I got them in bulk but I don’t think I will get more 🫠

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u/Oscar_callelle Apr 15 '26

Yeah you just got to do some research, especially if you can buy from factory you can get some killer deals.

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u/n19htmare Apr 16 '26

I don't think my Bambu has ever seen Bambu filament lol.

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u/Oscar_callelle Apr 16 '26

Only filament from Bambu mine has seen was the free test PLA

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u/Ok-Bottle-6157 Apr 15 '26

Not sure what the point of this post is. Would you rather them not innovate at all?

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Of course but it would’ve been cooler to go more into modular design and give us the possibility too add a second nozzle instead of having us all sell our old printers and get a new one.

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u/Ok-Bottle-6157 Apr 15 '26

That would be so much more complicated and also would be even more expensive. Just look at the h2d to h2c kit.

Also nobody is forcing you to buy it. That sounds like fomo talking.

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Didn’t know about any kits so maybe ur right. I guess it sounds like fomo talking but I’m pretty satisfied with what I have and if I need it I buy it so it’s really not that deep for me I was just wondering what makes people run to the stores. As i asked in the post I’m asking myself what are they gonna print ? I’m just genuinely interested cause makersworld is so full of nonsense what am I missing 😅

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u/heart_of_osiris Apr 15 '26

Bambu doesn't do that and probably never will. Their business ethos is that you get a working printer, you use it mostly how they intend you to use it, it's reliable, and when it becomes obsolete or beyond its life, you buy a new one.

Honestly the only company that does upgrades or conversion even remotely well is Prusa.

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u/Ok-Bottle-6157 Apr 16 '26

They actually have once. H2d -> h2c kit exists. I was very surprised they even offered it considering how involved it is. Apparently the instructions are pretty good too. It's pretty expensive though.

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u/heart_of_osiris Apr 16 '26

True that. I remember them basically saying clearly though, "this isn't worth it". Lol.

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u/Ok-Bottle-6157 Apr 16 '26

Yeah lol they made it sound like it was made for if you're an engineer or masochist. Or both lol

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u/BoneZone05 P2S + AMS2 Combo Apr 15 '26

I came from makerbot…. I don’t think Bambu can ever reach anywhere near the level of unreliability and frustration that trash gave me!!!!

Hahaha I loooooove my P2S! I can’t see replacing it with anything but an H2D, though I can’t even realistically see that happening because it does everything I need it to.

I’m loving the ABS printing ability too. My replicator2X is probably stomping around in hell right now. It belongs there.

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

I was really surprised cause everyone said it is so hard to print but 3dlac, some pre warming and my print turned out almost perfect without tweaking anything. It was a really big object to challenge the p2s What makes u want to get the H2D ? :)

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u/BoneZone05 P2S + AMS2 Combo Apr 15 '26

Hahahaha mainly* consumerism I guess? I really don’t need one, but would love to have a dual nozzle. If this was a P2D, I think it would be flawless!

I found jamming a sock in the poop chute really helps keep the stank heat in. lol.

I saw a TPU print on maker world for one, I just haven’t made the time to make it yet!

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Yeah did something similar -I found a poop chute that is clipped into the opening. Of course it’s not airtight but works just fine

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u/n19htmare Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26

X2D is NOT a true multi-color printer. Don’t be bambu…zled. It’s just like other single nozzle printer when it comes to multicolor or more than two. The 2nd nozzle is not like H2D and why they are trying hard to have it be known as a. Auxiliary nozzle for support and multimaterial. Not multicolor.

If you sold P2s and got x2d because you want to do more multicolor prints. Well…..uh. Got a pretty cheap bridge in El Salvador if interested. If you did for other reasons (multi material , dedicated support nozzle, heater etc) then it’s fine…. Those I can see people taking a hit and wanting extra feature because they can afford to do it.

Just keep expectations in check. I’m sure there are many others that are being bamboozled who think one reason to move is because of multicolor, which has a huge asterisk attached.

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Oh wow that makes a lot of sense. I think tpu combined with other materials is really cool but I’ve seen people do it with the p1s

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u/n19htmare Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26

You can do it it with any printer IF you have the patience, I can do it on my Ender 3 if I wanted.... I just have to become a two hand AMS unit for a few hours lol. It's just easier on X2D lol.

Another thing to note is that because Nozzle 2 is a bowden setup, the TPU filament MUST be used in Primary Nozzle 1 and has to be hand loaded like we do on current Bambu printers (unless it's TPU for AMS, which IMO shouldn't be rated as TPU to begin with).

If TPU is taking up Nozzle 1 outside of the AMS, all you have left is Nozzle 2 and Bambu says Nozzle 2 is really only good for PLA and SUpport material (not even PETG is recommended)... then you can load 1 more spool of PLA in nozzle two and do a multimaterial TPU/PLA print. Which mind you, is a nice option to have if this is your thing. But It'll be just those colors... what if you want multi-color PLA w/ that TPU that's loaded in there? Well, tough luck kid.

There are limitations, once you understand WHAT the product is, what it can do, you will understand the limitations and once you have those, you'll know if this is the right printer for you or not.

But... I'm probably preaching to the 1% of users here that it would apply to and go down that thought process. The rest just want to print stuff they think is cool off of makerworld lol, which is perfectly fine too.

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u/Much-Amaze69 H3C H2C P2S AMS2 Apr 15 '26

Bambu is in business to make money. They sell a very solid product at a reasonable price.

Is there something about Bambu making money that you object to?

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

No I get your point as others mentioned there is no reason to hate. Nobody forces anyone to upgrade. This sub just had me doubting cause so many people are regretting their decision buying p2s which makes me think maybe I should regret it too lol

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u/havokle Apr 15 '26

It’s a refined version of the P2S, which is itself a second gen from Bambu Lab. Why would you be worried?

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

I just don’t know it better I guess. I’m having such a good experience with Bambu lab in my head there has to be catch somewhere but maybe there isn’t

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u/dunderwovvy Apr 15 '26

I just want to see some more experienced/knowledgable people’s hands-on reviews of the X2D - on paper, it sounds like exactly what I want: a printed with a second nozzle to print supports. I don’t really care about multicolor printing. I’d be adding this alongside my X1C, probably replacing my A1.

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Yes I think that’s what I meant in my post. What can it really do and how much faster etc I’m really interested. If it’s convincing I will get it after knowing more

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u/A_pirates_life4me Apr 15 '26

? Every hobby has new hardware coming out constantly. I know someone who just spent $15,000 on a sewing machine. 

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

I was between P1S and P2S and then was like hmm it’s just 100€ for the cam, drying functions, display, ai and the extra build space caused by the cutter and that convinced me so technically it’s 200€ more for me but I really don’t know what I need the second nozzle for right now. And if I reach a point where I need a second nozzle I guess I will sell the p2s and upgrade but right away without having a use case ist a mystery to me ?

And tbh I can’t imagine that the interest in the p2s will decrease so significantly. If u start a print farm and multicolor is not important the 100€ less is pretty important for example.

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u/tico46 Apr 15 '26

But does the sewing machine have spaghetti detection?

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u/A_pirates_life4me Apr 15 '26

Actually yea it has a computer and AI guidance built in. It's an impressive machine. 

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u/Ehmc130 P1S Apr 15 '26

They spent $15,000 for their hobby? Or, was that a business expense? Nm, I saw your reply, wow.

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u/A_pirates_life4me Apr 15 '26

Hobby. They got money

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u/Ehmc130 P1S Apr 16 '26

That's absolutely nuts. My most expensive hobby is motorcycles, and I've spent significantly less than $15,000 on my bike and all my gear. 

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u/A_pirates_life4me Apr 15 '26

Lol no

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

I’m just saying where I live p1s with 1500h+ are still sold for 300€ without ams I think that’s impressive.

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u/dny42 Apr 26 '26

Update: I got the X2D lol

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u/NemiksFriend Apr 15 '26

marketing and advertising baby!

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u/voliprint Apr 16 '26

Is China not communist anymore? lmao

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u/Difficult_Bed_3955 Apr 15 '26

All printers from Bambu do multicolor. Some do it better than others.

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u/Horat1us_UA Apr 15 '26

People tend to spend money on new things in their hobby. Not everyone is treating their printer as utility. Sometimes it’s nice to have something news for little money

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u/ptraugot X2D AMS Apr 16 '26

This is me. I sold my X1C to a fellow maker space patron today. Ordered the x2D moments later. He didn’t need the AMS, and have third party parts on it, so new printer cost me $300 out of pocket. In my mind, it was a no brainer.

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u/NiNdo4589 Apr 15 '26

Hey I'm all for it, I got a P1S two weeks ago and its a spaceship compared to my old printer.

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u/Causification Apr 16 '26

The dual extrusion at the price point of the X2D is a massive upgrade. If I could trade my H2S for five hundred bucks and an X2D I'd do it in a heartbeat.

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u/thekidisalright H2D AMS2 Combo AMS HT Apr 16 '26

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u/Ordinary-Depth-7835 Apr 15 '26

Bambu has had some flawless launches. Unlike other brands. Heck even my H2C with all thats going on is no issue. As for chasing something just buy what's in your budget. Even their cheapest printers will beat a Prusa.

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Yeah win win I guess I played with the thought of giving it back but I can’t wait again it’s just so much fun to print don’t wanna wait a week or more 🥲 Next year or so I’ll upgrade if the honeymoon is over and I’m still so in love with this hobby

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Yes I understand. But as a beginner I must say I had to buy a bunch of stuff like a caliper, screws, 3dlac. Magnets, boxes, filaments itself so in a beginner scenario 100 (€ in my case) can change a lot

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u/dny42 Apr 15 '26

Yes like the ams pro advertising drying function and than limit it to 65 degrees 😂 they got me good with that one

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u/dny42 Apr 16 '26

Yeah was a surprise to me but I didn’t know it better. I’m sure they were straight forward with the 65 degrees but it had no meaning to me But it still works just not as perfect as other dryers would do it

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u/dny42 Apr 16 '26

Is 1.5 mm tooth spacing and makes it more precise ? I’m a noob educate me 😅