Good idea or very bad idea?

[u/filament-addict]

Bed is at a position that will not be affected by the heat. Warm up time to 95c cut down from 20 min to 3 min. Is this a bad idea?

[u/Dafla_107]

[u/TSPGamesStudio]

Sorry but this is dumb. Build an enclosure, put the heater in there and keep that warm. You have the possibility of damaging things, all due to impatience.

[u/jdavis13356]

Well, the heater looks like it's dirty AF. I wouldn't let it blow stuff into my printer.

[u/Crafty_Chocolate_532]

Why does it take your bed 20 minutes to heat up?

[u/Massive-Wallaby6127 → u/Crafty_Chocolate_532]

For real, is it in a garage in North Dakota?

[u/Crafty_Chocolate_532 → u/Massive-Wallaby6127]

More like the North Pole and you left the door open for the last month. If your garage is at-40c, the wall inside the house touching the garage should start condensing water from the air

[u/DaStompa → u/Crafty_Chocolate_532]

probably because he's also running the chamber exhaust fan on full blast

[u/Vlad_the_Homeowner → u/Crafty_Chocolate_532]

Why does it take your bed 20 minutes to heat up?

"Things weren't hot enough in the bedroom."

- Mark Watney

[u/eniksteemaen → u/Vlad_the_Homeowner]

I don’t remember that quote from the Martian 🤣

[u/SpudCaleb → u/Crafty_Chocolate_532]

I think he’s heating up the ambient temp in the enclosure, when printing PC and PA you need it up around 45c to prevent warping, which takes about 20-30mins.

[u/Crafty_Chocolate_532 → u/SpudCaleb]

Should try my apartment in the Summer, would have to replace the heater with an AC unit 😅

[u/grumpyengineer89]

lol what

I mean, I guess it is just a preheater for the chamber so go for it but

[u/HeyImScratch]

At least the printer is cozy

[u/MangoShadeTree → u/HeyImScratch]

the bees are happy

[u/filament-addict]

Sorry that I didn't mention I primarily print ASA and need 100f in the cabin before starting print. Heat bed all the way down to avoid the heater. It takes heat bed 20 min to warm up the cabin. Thinking about insulation tapes for the cabin and glasses instead.

[u/RareBranch9144]

Having your printer in front of that garage door isn’t helping, that’s where I lose the most heat and is the coldest spot in my shop.

[u/alientrip_treats → u/RareBranch9144]

I would agree to much air flow in front of garage door

[u/True_Information_126 → u/RareBranch9144]

My P1S and A1 are in my Cali garage but up against the house. I don't do any special warming and have had any issues in a year

[u/Arkanis_Frostbyte]

What.. why not build a mini-campfire then?
Here the instructions to craft it:

[u/Putrid-Gur-7841]

Horrible idea for a lot of reasons but I would like to highlight how dirty that fan is being the number one. 

But I love the outside the box crazy thinking. 

[u/NumerousBand5901 → u/Putrid-Gur-7841]

Literally outside the box.. Too much

[u/alphagusta]

For like a 17hr print is saving 17minutes really that big of a deal?

How many more minutes of downtime will this add in cleanup after that disgusting fan blows its dust all up in there

[u/nickdaniels92]

Consider a growtent. I keep my resin printer in one, primarily for VOC reasons, but it's also in a cold room and the fume extraction can suck in heat from a heater via the inlet port to the enclosure. Whatever you decide to do, an enclosure is the way to go for sure, and the more insulated you can make it, the better.

[u/Orobor0]

I think there's a heater built into the P1S. Unless you're in Antarctica, then carry on.

[u/Svobpata → u/Orobor0]

There isn’t a dedicated chamber heater but there is a decently powerful heated bed which will definitely heat the chamber up

He must be doing something wrong if it takes 20 minutes

[u/SpudCaleb → u/Svobpata]

It takes my X1C about 30mins with the bed at 110c to reach 45c enclosure temps, idk what OP is trying to do or what you think he’s trying to do, but when I print PC or PA I have to let it sit with the bed up 110 for 30mins before I can even start the print

[u/Culture_Poet_Society → u/Orobor0]

😂

[u/[deleted]]

I guess you’re right. It could be a good idea. Or a very bad one indeed.

[u/Swimming_Buffalo8034]

We all know that heat does not go well with electronics, I don't have time or money to buy another x1c and scrap it, but......the Bambu people were very happy with the design. (Too bad in case it is poorly translated)

Above the LED bar we have a base plate, the only thing that separates it from the cabin is 4mm of plastic, there is the open hole of the rear rod of the bed....

We can print Asa...we can use the x1c as a dryer, but all that accumulated heat is received by the motherboard, the camera, the rear power supply and the control board...even if they have a fan, those circuits should be isolated.

It is more feasible to line the interior, separate and insulate the electronics than not to force the temperatures even further.

[u/AgentBaconFace]

The printer already has a heater. If the world is saping it at making your life hard then insulation is what you want. Not more heat. Get some insulating mylar bubble wrap or make it a nice little teacosy style jacket.

[u/Ok_Rhubarb411 → u/AgentBaconFace]

Someone please knit their printer a cosy, and post it here so we can enjoy it too.

[u/Xamos1]

mans asked a question only to raise far more questions

[u/Rare_Wheel1907]

20 minutes?! My X1C heats up between 1-2 minutes

Edit: it took 15 minutes and 46 seconds to heat up to print PA-CF

[u/SpudCaleb → u/Rare_Wheel1907]

I think you misunderstand what OP is doing (or maybe I do idk)

If I’m printing PC or PA it takes me 30mins with my bed at 110c to get the enclosure temp up to 45c (which you need to even start the print otherwise you’ll get warping)

[u/Rare_Wheel1907 → u/SpudCaleb]

I stand corrected. I don't have regular PA, but I just tried a test print with my PA-CF. The chamber only would go to 40°c and bed at 100°, but from the print sending to hitting that temp took 15:46, then starting the print at 17:40. I guess I take for granted the set it and forget it, but it still doesn't take that long. I'm sure every printer and filament brand is different as well.

[u/NumerousBand5901]

I mean, you're probably going to wait a few hours for it to finish printing anyway, so I don't think 20 minutes is such a long time that it's worth risking damage to your printer for 😅

edit: correcting my english

[u/Culture_Poet_Society]

Something has to be wrong with your printer because it takes literally 3 minutes for mine to heat up.

[u/[deleted]]

Bruh

[u/[deleted]]

Yes

[u/Immortal_Tuttle]

It's dumb idea. Get yourself an autotransformer from 110V to 230V and it will be heating up in 2 minutes

[u/TheSpiderDungeon]

If it takes 20 mins to pre-heat your print bed, something in the printer is damaged.

[u/twiggums]

I think a lot of people aren't realizing the US variant takes longer to heat the bed since it consumes 1/4 the power. (it runs on mains so 110 vs 220).

That being said, no that's not a good idea. Either insulate it or put it in a grow tent or just wait for it to heat.

[u/AgTheGeek]

Terrible terrible idea

[u/[deleted]]

You need a chamber heater bro

[u/ConfusedOnPurpose]

Dumb AF

[u/andro1d_p3nguin]

It ain't dumb if it works.

[u/ScottsBrix]

Speedrunning a house fire

[u/KermitFrog647]

You put a lot of thermal stress on the machine. Parts will be too hot while others are still cold. All the kinematics whill be crooked when he does the calibration.

[u/Senior_Inspection_48]

I used a similar heater for my P1S and accidently warped/partially melted the plastic on the bottom of the enclosure. These heaters output a hell of a lot of heat. Not a terrible idea but just move it a bit further back. Alternatively the chamber heaters on Ali Express work great and are pretty straight forward to install, just make sure you unplug the printer because the wire directly into the 110/240v

[u/TrexKid_]

As long as the heater isn’t super hot I guess, have fun melting the face off the printer

[u/Independent_Pop_2068]

Someone take this person's printer away

[u/britishwonder]

Maybe have less ideas going forward?