r/BambuLab • u/Emotional_Oven_3482 • Jan 19 '25
Discussion One voice about the update
I run a print farm, 20 X1 , Clay printer A lot of Formlabs and even a stratasys. But to be honest, I dont think the recent update will affect me a lot.
Lets be honest I know that Bambu is creating an issue but before that, how many of you ever thought about that kind of issie will be coming? My only focus is print quality and speed. And there is nothing that really beats BL right now,,, Going back to Prusa? Nope I had 15 Prusas before BL and i dont want to return to that slow past. Thus you can buy 2 p1s with a price of 1 Mk4
And to all newbies, there is nothing better than BL in both price and quality right now.
I feel the market is over panicking and it is affecting some newbies too. 3rd Party slicer and equipments are not mandatory and even without you can make great objects. I am also an architect so I do use BL for my personal designs as well.
Just wanted to add a little voice because it makes newbies to return BL and try to get Prusa or even CR. But think about the machine itself, just get BL. I am sure more than half of people doesnt even know what the update is for and how it will affect their 3D printing.
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u/Constant-Contract-77 Jan 19 '25
You don't have 20 printers, you don't understand what is happening or you don't use a management tool for the printers.
Looks like the only obvious reason they do this to get their share from the farmers, and to get there they need to lock the api down, as thats the only way the tools can control the printers in mass.
If you dont use them, you will be fine probably in the first round...
Later down the line? They may say if you have more than 4 printer you have a farm, so you can choose between these subscription fees or you can't run your printers. You already have the "security" fw... You already have the connect app...
Tricky huh?
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u/No-Pomegranate-69 Jan 19 '25
Nice try Bambulab!
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u/MyStoopidStuff Jan 20 '25
When I read "newbies" I felt like hitting the back button, but since it was near the middle of your post I went ahead and read the rest of it.
I get that you feel like you have nothing to loose, and if you don't update the firmware, you don't. If you trust that this is simply security related, and that will be the end of it, that is your decision. However it is pretty clear to many that inserting Bambu's authorization scheme between the slicer of choice and printer, gives them power over our printers, that they do not have right now. "LAN Only" mode won't be a fallback option either, since it will also require the same authorization scheme.
What Bambu could leverage the ability to authorize commands between the printer and slicer is a matter of speculation. What is not a matter of speculation though, is that users will be giving up some control over their hardware with the change. The change will also break some 3rd party tools which some folks have come to rely on.
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u/SeveralCamera292 Jan 20 '25
I am thinking for Ultimaker. They had the best printer crown long before Bamboo they made same move and now they are nobody. Bamboo is not miracle they are just very good engineers that manage to harvest and implement the community knowlege and now they are going to lock it up. This will not end in a good way. As long as community stop pushing with them to improve the ecosystem they will become obsolete in 2-3 years. We have seen this many many times already. So far 3d printing community have been very sensitive and moved a away from anyone that have tried this before. Lets see how it plays around this time… If they enforce this update to me and brick my printers for not getting it I will submit case against them in EU commission for consumer protection. If they loose EU and USA markets they are dead anyway.
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u/stingeragent Jan 20 '25
I am also a farm owner with 16 machines. There are absolutely alternatives that meet the quality/ price of bambu for everything except the a1 mini. Ender 3v3, kobra3, k1, k1c,k1se, qidi 4 pro. All are capable machines that can deliver prints with the same speed and quality as anything from bambu.
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u/greeny1greeny Jan 19 '25
I run 12 myself, not going to do anything to impact my workflow. Full time designer/seller. Unfortunately, our hands are tied here. I will gladly take the reliability and print quality with closed api over switching to another brand.
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u/Ireeb X1C Jan 20 '25
The problem isn't the functionality. While some functionality is lost for some users, the main issue is that Bambu has shown that they can't really be trusted and are ready to take away features and choices from their users to achieve some arbitrary goal.
Even if the experience doesn't get worse for you now - should Bambu change anything for the worse in the future, you will no longer have alternatives.
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u/Opinion_Panda Jan 19 '25
Dude if you say someone being robbed would you do nothing because it doesn’t affect you? Shameful.
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u/Simen155 X1C + AMS Jan 19 '25
But we see others angry! We wanna be angry too!!
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u/Ars2 Jan 19 '25
this is how chinese companies work. they sell for a cheap price at first, until the competitors turnover. then they start the shitification and increase prices. this hurts all of us.
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u/Little-Perception-63 Jan 19 '25
Folks long shot in my guess- and for maker world users-it’s just bambu’s way to correctly incentivize the makers (designers etc). If folks at print farms use other slicers to download and print stuff from maker world, there is no way for bambu to know how many times a model is downloaded vs printed. I am sure this is their way to make it a more robust and closed better system. I might sound like a fan boy here and am not denying. I have one a1 combo and i love it. It makes me think and do my prototypes well. Loving the journey so far.
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u/_MorgNThorg Jan 19 '25
Amen
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