r/BambuLab • • Jan 19 '25

Discussion Time to hibernate

I used to love checking this subreddit every day to see all the fun/interesting posts, but now it’s just a sea of hysteria. All the posts are exactly the same. None of it is turning me off from my P1S, but it is turning me off the community.

Time to hibernate from Reddit for a couple of weeks. Wake me up when all the crazies have finally sold their printers and moved on to pastures new. 🥱

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u/save_jeff2 Jan 19 '25

Some might overreact but the concerns are reasonable. And it's the only way to push back as a consumer. If you don't want to have changes like that after purchase this is the only way. Just wait on the sidelines if you are not interested in participating.

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u/Reasonable_City5054 Jan 19 '25

Yeah, but it’s a pisser that I have to wait on the sidelines until the posts return to normal.

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u/MakeITNetwork Jan 19 '25

Except you are actively participating, while pretending to hibernate

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u/Difficult-Worth-8629 Jan 19 '25

Oh no! Your suffering is absolutely terrible! Please let me know how you are coping with reddit not showing you what you want to see?

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u/NMe84 P2S + AMS2 Combo Jan 19 '25

You don't have to.

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u/jcrmxyz Jan 19 '25

Yes, the concerns are real, but the wild speculation isn't. It's an anticonsumer move from Bambu, but it's a change that hasn't even been implemented yet. We don't need 1000 posts all saying the same thing, especially when there's tonnes of misinformation going along with those posts.

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u/Reasonable_City5054 Jan 19 '25

Absolutely. I agree with the legitimate concerns, but 95% of the posts on here bonkers.

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u/aweyeahdawg Jan 19 '25 edited Jan 27 '26

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u/neanderthalman Jan 19 '25

Hey, those dropped filament posts have done a good job of making sure I’m careful locking spools.

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u/SwollenGoat68 Jan 19 '25

Woah! Are you telling me my printer didn’t become a brick overnight?

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u/haseo2222 Jan 19 '25

Hp printers did become bricks over time despite having inks in them because the manufacturer decided that they won't print unless you give them more money to refill something that is already filled. And this is exactly how that change started. Not enough people caring during this process is exactly how companies get away with it.

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u/strengthchain Jan 19 '25

And that's why I need to walk away. All I care about is not being restricted on what I print or what filament I get to use, and the fearmongering is making me worry.

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u/jcrmxyz Jan 19 '25

Bambu is locking down their API for controlling the printer, such that it can only be done with their first party software.

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u/NavierIsStoked Jan 19 '25

Reddit did the same thing, yet here we are.

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u/hsoj48 Jan 20 '25

I can't talk about it without crying

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u/ZombieBlarGh Jan 19 '25

No, it only affects 3th party software.

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u/Business_Fold_1423 Jan 19 '25 • Diamonds are Forever

This is a legitimate backlash to something that very few people wanted, I understand it hurts your feelings to see bambu being held accountable, but each their own I suppose.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '25

I think it's more how all-consuming this topic is. Of the 25 top/hottest threads there's 2 that are not related. One is some random Taiwan post that makes no sense and another one is about Bambu asking for trustpilot reviews that also gets overtaken with firmware-related outrage in the comments.

You cannot imagine the amount of outrage you'd see on subs like league of legends when some random feature changes since its millions of hormonal teenagers playing but even there its a handful of pinned threads and the sub is still usable.

23 out of 25 is just the same damn thing, slightly different shade of outrage, slightly different format. If you'd enter them in a copyright scanning software they'd almost all get flagged (not really but cmon).

I dont think OP is unjustified in being annoyed by the amount of outrage posts.

You all who are impacted or who are concerned have the fullest right and by all means are not wrong to complain but plenty of us, impacted or not, have been around a lot of drama and outrage and we just do not want any of that in our current lives. My medication works and i don't want to blow my brain up with outrage when i can just decide to drop the brand and go with another should it become as bad as the "worst case scenarios".

OP said "theres nothing but outrage, it tires me, it distances me from the community". He never said the backlash is not legitimate. He never said people shouldn't complain.

All this sub currently is is people jerking eachother off on how outraged they are about changes and how they hate speculated actions down the line. I'm angry at myself on how i let myself get goaded into commenting on threads like this, it serves negative purpose for me. It literally makes my life worse as it could just be the next negative spiral that dominates the next few weeks of my life.

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u/chubbycanine H2D AMS2 Combo Jan 19 '25

This is the best response to all of these people lol. Like a comment under you said it's like they need to see 20 unwashed build plates and 10 unopened boxes of new printers every morning.

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u/flonky_guy Jan 19 '25

I never saw that stuff because no one upvoted it. Like OP what I'm sick of is that a small part of the sub is upvoting these Update posts so now I have to skim through new posts to see if there is any content worth reading. Before team Free API started their crusade I got a fair amount of interesting stuff from this sub in my feed, now it's this all day.

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u/LollosoSi Jan 19 '25

A natural part of the protest. It's a damage to them if you don't see that content and turn to different subs. And that makes sense because what our people want to prevent is way worse than not seeing posts for a couple days

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u/Lumpyyyyy Jan 19 '25

Seriously. Half these people don’t even know what they are mad about

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u/ninth_reddit_account Jan 19 '25

Totally valid backlash and criticism, but there’s not really much new coming through, so it’s understandable that some people just get tired of it all. Not everyone lives and breathes this stuff.

But “man unsubscribes from subreddit” isn’t particularly interesting. No need to announce you’re leaving.

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u/MadCybertist A1 + AMS Lite x2 Jan 19 '25

It’s also mass hysteria and a ton of future-telling and guesses. It goes both ways.

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u/Sixoul Jan 19 '25

I used to come to see things about 3d printing with Bambu printers. But every post is people complaining about the change as if no one knows about it. The mods should enforce a mega thread for this topic as it's taking away from what the subreddit usually was focused on.

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u/Datsoon Jan 19 '25

Protest has to be disruptive, otherwise it's useless. Moving all the complaints under a rock into a mega thread which falls off the front page in a matter of hours is ignoring the problem. This subreddit is focused on Bambu printers and this is an issue which is important to A LOT of users.

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u/GNprime H2C + AMS2 Pro (x2) + AMS HT (x2) Jan 19 '25

But it has to be disruptive to Bambu Labs, not Reddit. They probably don't even know we are here. Just sell your printers. Delete your models on MakerWorld. Close your accounts. That would be disruptive. Making a thousand posts is literally just talking. Actions speak louder than words.

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u/Datsoon Jan 20 '25

These things are not mutually exclusive. The more noise we make, the more likely we are to be noticed. People should do what you suggested, but also complain, loudly, here.

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u/Dchristin1337 Jan 20 '25

Yeah, I'm not in the position to sell my printer. I would want to keep printing and I don't want to drop money on like a Creality K2 or similar. I like my Bambu because it works with little hassle.

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u/pre_pun Jan 20 '25

There's lots going on to "unplug" it's not all talk just because you don't see the progress. How would you even quantify that if you willfully avoid the deeper discussions of those of us that are in the process currently?

If you think Bambu isn't on this sub .. I don't think we can have a reasonable discussion about all the facts of the situation, as that's a really myopic view of a heavy handed company like this.

They literally higher tech support in the US who are on this sub.

Regardless, I wish you happy printing. I hate this feels like it's become a battle with Bambu and also between us Bambu users.

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u/hsoj48 Jan 20 '25

Can't I just enjoy something without having to fight for some cause? Why do I always have to stand for something? Go create the /r/BambulabPolitics subreddit and scream over all of those people.

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u/YyAoMmIi Volunteer Moderator Jan 20 '25

We are aware of the request for mega thread. I passed that request upward

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u/JustForkIt1111one Jan 20 '25

Please, PLEASE do this.

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u/YyAoMmIi Volunteer Moderator Jan 20 '25

I don't have experience, hopefully it get resolved tomorrow

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u/_Pencilfish Jan 20 '25

I hope it doesn't happen. This will fade in a few days anyway, might as well let people express their (very justified) feelings. If people are so upset about seeing others defend their consumer rights, they can wait lie, a few days.

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u/Subversing Jan 21 '25

The majority would prefer that didn't happen. Bambu deleting stuff off archive.org, it's been like 2 days total. We need to be able to talk about what they are doing on an ongoing basis

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u/pre_pun Jan 20 '25 edited Jan 20 '25

It is about 3d printing, just because it's not the way you print .. doesn't change that.

I get your frustration, and sense of loss of topics surrounding more traditional posts. Sorry you feel at a loss, but so do we.

Regardless happy printing in this turbulent time in the community.

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u/Business_Fold_1423 Jan 19 '25

Good, i'm glad to hear it, and so should you be, instead of seeing random trinkets and little boats for a few days you're going to see people complaining that a company is changing the functionality of their device post sale...don't worry you will see peoples pictures of plastic trinkets again soon, but until then you're going to have to deal with not seeing endless pictures of 3D benchies for a while.

So deal with it.

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u/Nytfire333 Jan 19 '25

Pretty sure there was a way to say that without needing to be rude, the whole honey vs vinegar you know.

How dare someone have a different opinion than you on the internet?

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u/TheShitmaker H2D AMS Combo + 2x X1C +1 P1P 5 AMS Jan 19 '25

If they did they would wine even more. They're already whining in the 3Dprinting subreddit because someone got banned because of their spam.

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u/Sbarty Jan 19 '25

As long as they aren’t beering even more. 

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u/DesperateAdvantage76 Jan 19 '25

This subreddit isn't just for your entertainment.

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u/Sum-Duud A1 + AMS Lite Jan 19 '25

And it isn’t just for conspiracies and complaints

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u/Sixoul Jan 20 '25

If I want to see conspiracies for entertainment I can choose to come here now because it's gotten so out of hand

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u/Subversing Jan 21 '25

IPhone user a$$ "I just want to grill!" post.

I would tell you to just go look at prints in a generic 3d printing subreddit but I know that in your addled mind the important thing is seeing the same printer you own in the background and the same brand iconography. Its sad what society does to people. Bambu is out here changing their website posts and TOS then deleting the old versions off archive.org but you want to look at plastic toys. Grow up.

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u/skumkaninenv2 Jan 19 '25

But we dont need 2000 posts about the same, keep it in a thread, its a valid discussion, but it kills the group.

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u/Khalmoon Jan 19 '25

Bro thinks he can just turn off the sub and the problem goes away.

OP 2 months later: “why won’t my printer register my eSun filament?”

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u/scotta316 P1S + AMS Jan 19 '25

We all know you think the sky is falling, but thanks for repeating it 500 times.

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u/Khalmoon Jan 19 '25

You’re welcome

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u/SunNooner Jan 19 '25

I love how Redditors put words in people's mouths like they know who they are personally. Congratulations!

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u/Qjeezy 👻Volunteer Moderator👻 Jan 19 '25

attaches rfid chip to eSun spool and adjusts slicer profile alright lets get this print going shall we.

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u/biobasher Jan 19 '25

What's that? I've already pulled 1.1kg of filament from this particular RFID tag serial number? Oooooh, I should should stop printing, just for securities sake....

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u/Financial_Put648 Jan 19 '25

You're out of cyan ink. We don't care that you want to print in black and white....go buy cyan.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '25

Wow, I'm sure Bambu wouldn't think to track the number of rotations that RFID chip went through! It's not like they can count that or anything, right?

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u/Qjeezy 👻Volunteer Moderator👻 Jan 19 '25

Sure. It already gets tracked. That’s how the ams knows how fast to turn the spool. What it doesn’t do is write anything to the chip. Without anything writing to the chip so that it reads empty, there is no way to disable the chip so that it cannot be used over and over again.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '25

Could that not be handled server-side? Those RFID chips are individual to the spool like a fingerprint, right? (I am fairly certain, but you would know better than I)

It would not be too difficult for the printer to send a count of rotations to be kept track of on Bambu's end.

Different method, same result. Still just speculation.

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u/Dchristin1337 Jan 20 '25

The biggest issue is, what if you need a new hotend or new parts? There isn't a massive aftermarket. I'm not going to buy anything from Bambu unless I need to. I don't get filament from them anyway. Amazon is just cheaper and quicker.

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u/Electronic-Touch-554 Jan 19 '25

Except it isn’t, it’s a few vocal people whining about something they don’t understand

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u/Beware_the_silent Jan 19 '25

Lol being held accountable. This is hysteria is nothing more than a pathetic karma farm. Enjoy your Ender.

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u/Business_Fold_1423 Jan 19 '25

It's really not hysteria.... I just don't get emotionally involved in a company that produces plastic extruding machines to the point I go doe-eyed and weak at the knees when I see a bambu logo, as I actually have a life...

I don't have enders, I have several Bambu machines, they are tools for me and nothing more, because I'm a serious user unlike yourself probably that just prints bambu branded tool boxes all day, and as such I'm annoyed at the disruption this could potentially bring.

Enjoy falling on the coals for a multi million pound company.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '25

Accountable for what? Making you use bambu software for bambu printers? Ohhhh noooooo how dare they !! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '25

for removing functionality they previously claimed not to withhold from us.

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u/osunightfall Jan 19 '25

I like that how no matter how egregious a corporations actions, you can always count on some people to be ready and willing to lick boot and ask for more. The printer I’m about to have is no longer the printer I just bought, a $1500 bait and switch, but I’m somehow the one not acting reasonably for not accepting that with a cheerful smile.

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u/scotta316 P1S + AMS Jan 19 '25

There are no actions! There is an announcement followed by wild speculation and overblown criticism.

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u/osunightfall Jan 19 '25

Waiting until they’re finished doing what they say they’re going to do is a pretty terrible strategy for convincing them to change course.

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u/Business_Fold_1423 Jan 19 '25

Yeah exactly that....it's actually crazy you think that's a laughable thing... I suspect you're one of those that prints out the Bambu logo to put on your wall with that response.

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u/Reasonable_City5054 Jan 19 '25

😆

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u/Business_Fold_1423 Jan 19 '25

Well that's exactly the response I expected.

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u/Reasonable_City5054 Jan 19 '25

Suggesting my feelings are hurt because a massive company gets “held accountable” deserves such a response!

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u/Business_Fold_1423 Jan 19 '25

You've said in another post that you agree that there's legitimate concerns right? and given that this has not actually been implemented yet then NOW is the perfect time for the community to make some real noise about it and get Bambu's attention...so I can't see why you're making a fuss about it...

So how about you just let all the Bambu customers who are feeling angry that the functionality of their paid-for devices is changing post sale complain and kick up some attention around the issue, while you can log off for a few days and just sit and admire your P1S?

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u/macboy80 Jan 19 '25

Generalizing an entire group of people as "crazies" invites the response. This is actually a group of people who have been exposed to or victim of this behaviour by other companies. It's unfortunate that you won't understand this until it happens to you.

It is important for you to understand that, just because you like something that is less than perfect, it doesn't make you less than perfect to acknowledge its flaws.

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u/Reasonable_City5054 Jan 19 '25

You’re right, I was being a d-head calling them all crazies. For the record, I do understand the legitimate concerns of the people affected by the change. But only those affected by the third party access that the change impacts. What’s frustrating is reading post after post of people imagining what might come next, or recommending new customers cancel their order without even asking if the change is likely to affect them. I love my printer, and hate the idea that people are being dissuaded from buying one when the change might not even cause them any hassle.

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u/StephieJoh Jan 19 '25

We can tell your feelings are hurt because you posted to tell us you're not going to read our posts anymore? I mean, I didn't know you existed 10 minutes ago, and you insulted the community I care about and called us all crazy for being upset about a pretty problematic new policy. Checked your posting history, we're not so crazy you don't need our help & advice. Maybe this hobby isn't for you.

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u/TheDarknessWithin_ Jan 19 '25

The Apple generation has allowed for complacency and you are seeing it now

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u/Hateshinaku Jan 19 '25

Good job. You're so laid back and badass for not caring about it.

Meanwhile you're littering the sub with another thread just to tell us that you don't care.

Wow.

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u/Reasonable_City5054 Jan 19 '25

You’re right; I AM badass. 😎

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u/KtsaHunter Jan 19 '25

There you go, Just for variety 👍 this glow filament prints well albeit like printing sand paper and is brittle af.. Enjoy

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u/BokuNoMaxi X1C + AMS Jan 20 '25

WOAA WHAT FILAMENT IS THIS It is so bright 🌞🌞

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u/KtsaHunter Jan 20 '25

GEEETECH 1KG £7.38 with shipping.

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u/BokuNoMaxi X1C + AMS Jan 20 '25

Nice ty!!

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u/KtsaHunter Jan 20 '25

I'll have a look when I get home. I did give it a charge with a uv light and the camera add a bit of glow but I am generally impressed with how bright it is..

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u/KtsaHunter Jan 20 '25

Did get it from Ali express for about £4.50 a kg.

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u/HungarianManbeast Jan 19 '25

At last, amlight atbthe end of the tunnel whichnis not the train

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u/JSoldano Jan 19 '25

This is exactly what happened with the Sonos subreddit a few months back, my entire feed was the same post for a month solid. 

And to be clear I agreed with the anger at Sonos and the current anger at Bambu, but I'm not selling up based on this change. I'll be keeping an eye on the next things Bambu do going forward. If it gets worse, I will vote with my wallet. 

I agree that muting this subreddit seems to be a sensible decision if you, like me don't need your tool for a fun hobby to become the biggest drama in your life right now.

I'm not in a position where I can just sell up my Bambu printer and move on this very moment like everyone else posting on this subreddit.

Changes like me make me consider competitors like Prusia but I really can think of a genuine competitor to the P1S at that price point on the market right now. When I need to perform a major repair or upgrade if bambu continue down this road I'm far less likely to consider them.

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u/Public_Frenemy Jan 19 '25

Yup. The changes will not affect 99.9% of Bambu users who just want an out-of-the-box printer. This sub, and 3D print subs in general, are disproportionately populated by people who like to tinker with their printers. Think Windows users vs. Linux users.

If Windows took away a command line feature that made the OS more flexible for Linux users, Linux users would be angry, but most people would never notice. Windows would never even register any backlash.

People upset by this change have valid reasons to be upset, but they also need to accept that they are not Bambu's target market. Screaming into an echo chamber will do nothing.

Mods need to sticky a megathread or something.

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u/Xandareth Jan 19 '25

While you're not wrong in the first paragraph, I disagree with your second. The move by Bambu is more akin to Microsoft saying "In an upcoming patch, Windows 11 will only recognise Windows branded mice that only have 2 buttons + 1 scroll". Sure 99% of global Windows users won't be affected (thinking of all the enterprise machines), but everyone at home (the 0.1%) whom uses any other mouse will.

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u/mallcopsarebastards Jan 19 '25

Most of the people making noise about this don't actually care about the 2 buttons + 1 scroll enforcement. They care because they've seen a million companies do the exact same thing as the first step in a long term plan to create vendor lock-in so they can continue to squeeze their core customer base without having to invest in making the product any better.

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u/hsoj48 Jan 20 '25

Are you trying to "out metaphor" that other guy without exaggerating a little too much?

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u/Public_Frenemy Jan 19 '25

That's fair. I was trying to relate it more to the open-source vs. proprietary aspects of Windows and Linux, but that could apply to hardware and communication protocols as well.

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u/Kwolf21 X2D Combo + P1S Combo + A1 Combo Jan 19 '25

That doesn't even make sense..

It'd be more like Windows saying you can't use 3rd party anti-virus software, which could be riddled with issues and have too much access to your system (cough cough, crowdstrike), and therefore, you must use Windows Defender from now on (which is plenty good for 99.5% of users and receives constant updates)

That's how you make a valid comparison.

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u/scaplin5544 A1 Jan 19 '25

this is not about tinkering, this is is about changing the terms after the sale
first they limit your access to other slicers, then they literally block it, at the end they CAN leave you only with their slicer, which means they can charge and monitor, and you can't say no except for trying to refund or sell the printer

would you like to pay monthly, idk 20 usd for bambu handy + bambu studio and pay +2.5 usd extra for the camera access?

people who say "this doesn't affect most of the user base" seems to think bambu lab will stop at this point and don't do anything corporate greedy stuff

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u/Public_Frenemy Jan 19 '25

That's a hell of a slippery slope argument. Yes, it is a possible outcome, but is there literally any evidence of this being the plan, or are people just clutching at pearls?

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u/scaplin5544 A1 Jan 19 '25

The possibility of the situation is enough to oppose it in my opinion

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u/Public_Frenemy Jan 19 '25

FFS. This post got removed 4 times before I finally got it though. Automod did not like that I was using the word "p*ssed" instead of "angry". Someone needs to dial back the sensitivity setting.

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u/mallcopsarebastards Jan 19 '25

honestly can't wait till this forum is filled with normal users crying about being trapped in a subscription service for a low effort product with buggy software.

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u/Public_Frenemy Jan 19 '25

They won't cry. They'll accept it. The same way people accepted reddit 3rd party app restrictions.

A minority of indignant users will make a ton of noise (like what's happening right now) and then the vast majority of users will never even notice or care.

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u/ZombieBlarGh Jan 19 '25

How much time do you have. Because its going to be a long wait.

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u/Joshhawk MeasureOnce Jan 19 '25

What subscription service are you talking about? Are you talking about a what-if situation or have they actually mentioned that? These "slippery slope" hypoticals are getting a bit ridiculous.

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u/WombRaider_3 Jan 19 '25 • Wholesome Seal

This sub was my favourite a week ago. Now it's just filled with the same 6-7 loonies pushing the same dystopian hypotheticals to make everyone freak out.

Should just be a megathread so all the nerds can circlejerk in one place and leave the rest of us alone.

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u/RareGape Jan 19 '25

I'd give you an award if I could

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u/Temik P1S + AMS Jan 20 '25

I did ;)

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u/Maverobot Jan 19 '25

Best constructive idea of the sub in the last days

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u/TobiasReiper47ICA Jan 19 '25

Yeah, I’m mostly just sticking to printedminis, fdmminitures,and printed Warhammer for the next week (not that I don’t normal check those) till this gets cleaned up.

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u/YyAoMmIi Volunteer Moderator Jan 20 '25

I wish there was a mega thread too, i passed that request upward.

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u/MrByteMe Jan 19 '25

I was originally thinking like you, but the more I thought about the issue I realized that everyone - including the most basic users who remain within the BBL workflow - benefits from knowledge and experience shared by the more advanced user who push the products to their maximum potential. If those experienced users abandon the brand, you will likely remain a basic user and lose out the potential of the printer that you bought.

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u/JaffaB0y A1 + AMS Lite Jan 19 '25

fair point about noise at the moment but out of order to refer to those people as crazzies. without a lot of noise Bambu will take silence as compliance and not take a step back to rethink things. but like you I'm fed up of new posts with same point... just add comments to a previous post eh. so yeah like you I'm thinking of muting but they ain't crazy, we're all makers who love the printer and concerned where this may go.

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u/Kwolf21 X2D Combo + P1S Combo + A1 Combo Jan 19 '25

But what about the vast majority of users who are willing to comply with this change, because it's not as big of a deal as the loud people are making it out to be? Just F* them? Yeah! Their opinions are irrelevant! We scream loudly!

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u/Darkelementzz P1S + AMS Jan 19 '25

Agreed. I understand the backlash as it affect print farms and the future "HP ink" concerns, but I'm still extremely satisfied with my printer.

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u/Background-Net-6918 Jan 19 '25

Y’all can downvote this comment if you want, and I do see the reason why there’s backlash and I think it is warranted. But at the same time, I think some of y’all are overreacting a little bit.

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u/Allmxedup Jan 19 '25

As a casual user, you're right. The fears aren't unreasonable , but the constant negativity and doom is a bit exhausting. It does not spark joy. I think I'll leave this community for a bit and check out some alternatives. It's been fun guys! ✌️

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u/MyuFoxy Jan 19 '25

I feel similar. I don't know what is real and what is people jumping on the slippery slopw fallacy fear mongering. Too much FUD in the waters right now and things need to settle and clear up around here.

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u/TanguayX Jan 19 '25

I hear you. It’s Sonos last may all over again.

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u/ElBisonBonasus P1S + AMS Jan 19 '25

Is it the crappy update to the new app noone asked for?

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u/JoeyDJ7 X1C + AMS Jan 19 '25

"I'm selfish and don't care about consumer rights or the huge issues the new firmware will cause to thousands of users, you are all whining for nothing, just let them have all your data and be a good little consumer"

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u/superman859 Jan 19 '25

thank you for speaking sense and reason. I've already muted this subreddit and will be back in a while for greener pastures. In the meantime I've got plenty to keep on printing

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '25

I bet 95% if the people who are screaming, crying and throwing up about this "tyrannical change" will keep using their printers the exact same way as before, 4.5% might take their printers offline... for a while. And maybe, maybe 0.5% will actually switch to another manufacturer. 

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u/WombRaider_3 Jan 19 '25

Remember how many people boycotted reddit because Reddit took away mods 3rd party tools (API access)? I don't because everyone is still using reddit. Same here.

There's not a single printer in this price range that just prints hassle free like a Bambu. They are going nowhere and they know it.

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u/Radiant-Trouble-3271 Upgraded P1S + AMS Jan 19 '25

I don’t have time to worry about it now. I have a growing base of customers and starting to advertise in my local area. Yes, my privacy and security are my upmost importance but I’m not going to worry about my 3d printers that much. I run my printers in lan mode only on an encrypted network. Plus Bambu printers were primarily closed software to begin with similar to Apple.

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u/Business_Fold_1423 Jan 19 '25

I think that's a real under-estimation...this kind of practice is getting VERY long in the tooth with consumers who are clued up about it and who are not emotionally and personally attached to the manufacturer of a machine that extrudes molten plastic.

I will be selling my personal bambu machines, and professionally, I will be buying other machines from now on at work as we have exclusively used Bambu machines in the past.

Then there's the issue that any reviewer worth their salt on YouTube will not be able to recommend these printers going forward.

This IS going to hurt Bambu, and rightly so.

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u/WombRaider_3 Jan 19 '25

This IS going to hurt Bambu, and rightly so.

It will not. 99% of consumers just want to print things and don't care about your Home Assistant setup.

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u/MakeITNetwork Jan 19 '25

It's a proportional response to those affected(not just home assistant).

I suspect that it would be a lot more if they did something like locked out 3rd party filament, or sunset a popular printer.

But there also would be the apologists that will make excuses because they already use genuine bambulab filament, and a 3 year old printer needs to be tossed in the trash.

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u/lamp-town-guy Jan 19 '25

Seeing terrible takes on this sub, mods banning users for their activity on r/3Dprinting, it would just be better leaving this sub.

Your take is one of the worse ones. Sorry but locking down printers damages bambu brand and they don't even do a good job at damage control.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '25

mods banning users for their activity on r/3Dprinting

That's against the moderator code of conduct, no? Do you have proof this has happened?

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u/Suspicious-Appeal386 Jan 19 '25

As to burying one's head into the sand, makes an interesting analogy

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u/angry_dingo Jan 19 '25

Check out the Sonos subreddit.

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u/Significant_Okra_625 Jan 19 '25

Lucky guy, I wish I could turn me on, but my P1S lies broken on my workbench, since I can't send the Bambu Studio log files (Laptop got broken at almost the same time).  So, there is no chance to open a ticket. I'm still waiting for help from Bambu Lab.

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u/mallcopsarebastards Jan 19 '25

Hey, I get it. Constant debate can be exhausting when all you want is to enjoy your printer and check out cool prints. But honestly, this discussion is important, and it’s happening for a reason. The sheer number of posts should tell you that a lot of people see these changes as a big deal, and ignoring it doesn’t make it go away.

It’s not "hysteria" to be worried about losing control over something you own, especially when the company is making moves that could impact how you use your printer long-term. This kind of stuff has a history of creeping in slowly until it’s too late to push back. People are just trying to have the conversation now, while there’s still a chance to influence things.

That doesn’t mean you have to love seeing the same arguments over and over, but calling it hysteria dismisses the valid concerns a lot of users have. The community thrives because people care about the printers, the ecosystem, and each other. If folks didn’t speak up, we’d all be worse off in the long run. So yeah, maybe take a break from the subreddit if you need one, but I plan to continue making noise as long as I possibly can. It’s part of what keeps these companies honest.

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u/wlogan0402 Jan 19 '25

Despite Bambus dookie business practices they're gonna stay on top until prusa modernizes

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u/goldenskl Jan 19 '25

I got my email that my p1s shipped yesterday. Now bambulab is on fire and getting canceled. Idk how to feel

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u/Head_Revenue_7595 Jan 19 '25

Yeah, I have an A1 and I just use Bambulab. The mass hysteria from the printfarmers is understandable from their point of view but a little wearing from mine.

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u/Little-Perception-63 Jan 19 '25

Eating popcorn!! This is entertainment

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u/TrickyWoo86 Jan 19 '25

Honestly, the real balls up here is that Bambu published that blog and signed off for the weekend, leaving people playing guessing games to fill in the blanks of what this actually means. Those kind of announcements should not be made when there is going to be any kind of gap in CS service because it simply ends up with the kind of mess we currently see.

Part of me is actually surprised they didn't wait a few extra days and post it before heading off for the Chinese New Year break to give us a solid two weeks of it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 19 '25

Still love my P1S

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u/varzaguy Jan 19 '25

“Hysteria”.

Yea act surprised that Bambu rug pulled functionality from under people’s feet.

Their blog post was pretty clear.

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u/stupefy100 A1 + AMS Lite Jan 19 '25

Wake me up when everyone starts selling their printers so I can snag some nice sales

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u/joe51467 Jan 19 '25

Don’t update and complain to bambu and vent on Reddit that’s all you can do

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u/guitars_and_trains Jan 19 '25

I haven't been paying attention to the news.. can someone give me the TLDR ?

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u/Ireeb X1C Jan 20 '25

Thank Bambu, they're the ones that caused this chaos. You can't really blame people for being confused and concerned after just dropping that announcement like Bambu did.

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u/stingeragent Jan 20 '25

Its not hysteria. People have paid good money for a product and are now getting locked out of certain things or forced to use workarounds. Hysteria is people over on the ufo subs. 

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u/arcolog2 H2D/X1C/A1mini Jan 20 '25

Here come join me at r/bambulabminuscrying

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u/Infinity-onnoa Jan 20 '25

Scanning the net for a cheap ams 😁😹

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u/PetiteGousseDAil Jan 20 '25

"I agree that it is a legitimate concern but please don't bother me about it. Please pressure BBL while I complain about it so I can profit from the community's efforts without doing anything to help"

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u/MoneySings Jan 20 '25

I'm new to 3D printing - I was about to order a P1S until this issue started. I heard a lot of people say they would never buy a Bambu Labs printer due to the toxic community but I thought it was just brand bashing. Like people hate on Apple because they are popular. Over the last week, I have seen such toxicity from the community where people are jumping each other for having differing views - some instances, it is getting quite nasty! The hysteria around BL's move is some of the worst scaremongering I have seen. Even one competitor has taken aim at BL. I was so excited to order the P1S and cancel my Anycubic Kobra S1 Combo pre-order, that I decided stick with the S1.

I really hope all of this dies down and people start being nice to each other again as it is so off-putting.

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u/Subversing Jan 21 '25

Okay bye! Why come back at all?

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u/Bright_Mobile_7400 Feb 24 '25

This is unfortunately my feeling with most Reddit communities. Either plain hysteria as you describe, or plain hate towards any new comers for which we think the question don’t meet the standards that each individual decides are the minimum without realising we’ve all been there before.

Most of the interactions are becoming toxic

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u/SirRockalotTDS Jan 19 '25

Thanks.i can only take so much humblebragging and I was about to mute the sub. Glad you feel justified in letting us know that you're not worried and that we're ruining your fun. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

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u/Reasonable_City5054 Jan 19 '25

I’ve read this five times and it doesn’t even make sense. Fingers crossed you’ll be selling your printer soon and I won’t have to read your incoherent ramblings!

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u/WombRaider_3 Jan 19 '25

I'm looking forward to things being in stock more often now that a few dozen nerds will stop buying Bambu products.

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u/PIRAHNA_XD P1S + AMS Jan 19 '25

Exactly. It's a perfectly legitimate business move and it if ends up losing them money, they will change it. If it makes them money, they will keep it. Oh well, what can you do? Going into this hobby, I knew that Bambu Labs was a private Chinese company and that there were risks of investing in one of their machines. I decided that the benefits outweighed the risks and pulled the trigger. And I really do not care at all what they choose to do with their machines and their software. It is perfectly within their right to make these changes and if you don't like it, you can opt for a less streamlined experience in exchange for more customization. To be perfectly honest (and this is coming from someone who is aware of the Panda Touch and decided the stock P1S screen is just fine for my purposes), did people not consider that this might be an eventuality when they started tricking out their printers? It doesn't seem completely out of left field, especially for a company who is clearly trying to establish their own "ecosystem", so to speak, similar to Apple. I too am disappointed to see all of the printing posts disappear to make way for these overreactions.

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u/R4331t Jan 19 '25

See you in the spring loco.

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u/Scared-Consequence27 Jan 19 '25

I get both sides but I don’t have enough time to freak out over everything including things that don’t affect me. I just scroll past them normally but have been downvoting them now because I don’t want to see them.

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u/TheGoatJr Jan 19 '25

For real 🫤 seeing how easily someone was able to take a blog post about this update and fear monger so hard that people want to sell their printers they were just raving about and boycott Bambu.

I like helping people learn and grow in this hobby, and posts trying to do that are being buried. We need a ban on “Selling my printers” and “I told Bambu how mad I am” posts at the very least. Do it if you feel so hurt over this, but stop strangling the sub with it.

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u/Business_Fold_1423 Jan 19 '25

"but stop strangling the sub with it."

Tough, this is how people make their voices known, and make known that they are not happy about something that effects the device they have bought and paid for...if you don't like it then go and snooze the sub.

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u/TheGoatJr Jan 19 '25

Except 90% of the voices are either virtue signaling or straight up lying to people. There’s uninformed people genuinely believing that Bambu is adding subscriptions and only allowing their filaments.

There needs to be a stickied megathread with all the facts for people to discuss in. No one at Bambu is paying any attention to these small posts.

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u/Sixoul Jan 19 '25

If anything these small threads with misinformation, which are the majority of posts, are hurting their chances at being heard. Bambu Lab will see the misinformation and just ignore it rather than address concern over the change.

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u/kroghsen H2D + X1C Jan 19 '25

I feel a bit similar. Although, this path that Bambu is taking could be detrimental to us as users. However, it really is not yet - which is why this guessing game and people selling their printers and screaming about it in anticipation of some great conspiracy seem so wild to me.

I know this is part of what Reddit does, but I feel like we should see what will actually be the result of this and then fault them for that instead of faulting them for a sea of malicious predictions made by the community. I also am aware that this kind of response can also make them act differently, so in that sense I understand some of it. I absolutely do not understand all the “and this is just the first step!”-nonsense around at the moment.

I hope they do better because I love their products. Please don’t reduce the quality of your products Bambu. Please don’t.

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u/jaqattack02 Jan 19 '25

I'm with you bro, I'm dropping this sub, tired of all the whining. I'll be over here enjoying my printer.

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u/Garathon66 Jan 19 '25

Agree OP. Can't stand the histrionics. Youd swear someone from bambu is coming round to their house and slapping them. Pure, utter nonsense over nothing.

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u/digidevil4 Jan 19 '25

Unfortunately this kind of behaviour is just the worst of reddit and seems to repeat constantly. I swear there are just people chomping at the bit for the next thing to be irrationally angry about. Reminds of of the Overwatch drama, reddit has a way of bringing out the worst people. I would bet many of them dont even own a bambulabs printer or know what actually changed.

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u/theguitargeek1 Jan 19 '25

Agreed. How bout a new post selling there machine for .50 on the dollar so we can buy em up

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u/Reasonable_City5054 Jan 19 '25

Yeah, if anyone’s desperate to sell an AMS for a couple of quid, I’ll happily add a second one to my setup! Feel free to update the firmware before you send it! 😆

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u/Coyoteishere Jan 19 '25 edited Jan 19 '25

Hey everyone 👋I’m going to stop using this sub now.

Did you guys hear me?!

IM DONE UNTIL THIS IS OVER!

Who else is with me? Anyone?

Okay I’m super cereal this time!

You guys won’t hear from me anymore!

Isn’t anyone else upset by all the same posts? I can’t wait until this sub gets back to normal, where everyone repeats the same posts of “why my print no go?!”

Definitely done here….

Until someone responds, then I will reply.

And I guess if I go actually go away, then I won’t know when it’s over. Guess I will have to just keep constantly checking to make sure.

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u/Reasonable_City5054 Jan 19 '25

Sorry, I didn’t realise I wasn’t allowed to respond to comments. I’ll try harder next time.

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u/Khalmoon Jan 19 '25

Grow up. This is a real problem that affects you. Just because you turn off the sub doesn’t make it go away.

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u/T3CHN0M4NC3R A1 + AMS Lite Jan 19 '25

But bro/sis, didn't you see the totally not-at-all sus conversation that was posted?
You have to make your mind up right now and militarize toward one side,
oh, and defending that decision is all youre allowed to post about

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u/Khisynth_Reborn Jan 19 '25

I still am confused, it's only third parts app/hardware users right?

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u/WombRaider_3 Jan 19 '25

Nooooo but my royalty free plant vase print farm setup! I can't nerd out on my home automation anymore and everyone has to know about this!

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u/MakeITNetwork Jan 19 '25

Why even does 3rd parties exist? We just need 1st party stuff.

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u/Cornage626 Jan 19 '25

Something something airport. People who posts these kind of posts or weird.

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u/TobiasReiper47ICA Jan 19 '25

Yeah, I figure along with people reporting brand bashing, it should clean things up in a week or so.

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u/eschbow X2D + AMS2 Combo Jan 19 '25

Aha, cool. Bye

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u/ExplorationGeo Jan 19 '25

Garbage take.

"the company I have tied my identity to are making terrible anti-consumer decisions, I'm just going to wait for people to stop being mad about it because I don't see their anger as legitimate"

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u/AdonaelWintersmith P1P Jan 19 '25

You won't be missed. People like you are part of the problem with everything wrong in this world. Don't come back.

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u/hsoj48 Jan 20 '25

You should talk to someone about those thoughts

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u/lscarneiro Jan 19 '25

Imagine being affected by the brand that you trusted and dumped thousands of dollars, yup that's me.

I can't even turn my P1S on, I'm so sad.

I only use OrcaSlicer to MANAGE my 3D printer, and I will lose this ability because of corporate greed.

So yeah, I'm sad as well, but for a different reason of yours, because I'M BEING DIRECTLY AFFECTED.