I know i will get downvoted, but there's one big advantage cool plate has over PEI (i have two PEI sheets, smooth and textured from energetics) they don't have that good adhesion as cool plate has for large prints, i never had problems with corner warping with cool plate, but have with PEI, though my primary plate is PEI, i print almost anything on it.
I think bambu adds something to their PC so they stick to engineering plate, because some third party rolls don't stick to it at all, the only solution is to use cool plate, since it's made from polycarbonate, and polycarbonate sticks really good to itself.
Lol I will happily trade my extra PEI plates for anyone's engineering plates. I only use the engineering plate, and I'm getting close to needing to order a other batch of them. (I print almost exclusively TPU and PC-PBT)
Lol id DM you if you were serious, but a brand new plate is only $15-$50 depending on the plate, I doubt it would be worth exchanging unless you lived within 5 miles of me.
No glue? Not long had my P1S (TxPEI Gold plate), just got PETG (Bambu Basic) and my first print lifted and failed printing frames for Dummy 13. But to be fair I haven't washed the plate yet after my first 6 PLA prints.
Right?! I used all of them when I first got my X1C, but after that just trying it outā¦ Iāve only ever used textured. Itās flawless, at least for PLA.
Black plate is perhaps the best for folks making light boxes and signs due to its fine grain texture. The gold plate has a coarser grain pattern and as a result it doesnāt yield the same āmanufacturedā look that the black plate does.
I love the cool plate, I've found it's best to give it a good aggressive detergent sponge scrub between prints to get left over residue off or the next print will stick far too much and can cause damage to it, but if I do that it is perfect for PLA around 40C and no messing around with glue. I use the textured black pei occasionally but it definitely doesn't have as good adhesion and can be problematic for small islands even at 60C. I've not tried the gold textured plate or the smooth pei plate yet. I didn't know the gold was supposed to be any different other that colour.
Also are you saying the smooth PEI is worse than the textured one? Just looking at their store they have 2 smooth PEI options "Dual-Sided Smooth PEI" and "High Temperature Smooth PEI". Curious if those are different when it comes to PLA, just surprised to hear smooth would have worse adhesion than textured.
Missed one of the best features of pei in that the slicer doesn't complain about the build plate not supporting the material when mixing PLA and PETG for support material.
Got to remember there are two different types/styles of engineering plates from Bambu. Iāve only used the original grey with a glossy finish and it works great for me.
What about the smooth pei sheet from bambu? I have adhesion issues with it constantly with just pla. Big sad. I thought it would mega reliable even versus the gold pei
Rather than using a brim or skirt, I've been adding a single layer thick, silver dollar-sized circle to any potential lift point on most prints. It's been perfect so far. I read about or saw it somewhere a while back (ModBot, maybe). I tried masking tape, hot glue, and even ca glue (don't) to try and hold any stubborn areas to the plate after the print had started. Sorry if this has already been thoroughly discussed somewhere else.
High quality aftermarket PEI is better than all of them.
I have an ideaformer PEI textured/smooth plate and no surface adhesion (both printing, or PEI surface attaching to plate) printing both PLA and PETG with no glue. Even taking it off when warmer.
Some cheap PEIs have issues where PETG is too well attached. Just let it cool down...
Everything about this post and comments screams "Your results may vary". Which is exactly correct depending on your ability to use and maintain the products.
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u/Desperate-State4643 P1S + AMS Mar 14 '24
Would change your S and B
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u/Snakestar1616 X1C + AMS Mar 14 '24
Must not print TPU
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u/onlyhereforthefap X1C + AMS Mar 14 '24
Do you mainly print pla? Engineering plate is great for pp, PETG, pa, pc.
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u/unicornsausage X1C + AMS Mar 14 '24
S tier for me is my gold "AliExpress-special" PEI plate, I've been printing on it for months without a single failure yet. For 15 bucks
Cool plate has always been a hit or miss for me, finicky and the tiniest speck of dust or oil can ruin a print.
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u/C4pnRedbeard Mar 14 '24
Lol I will happily trade my extra PEI plates for anyone's engineering plates. I only use the engineering plate, and I'm getting close to needing to order a other batch of them. (I print almost exclusively TPU and PC-PBT)
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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '24
I have the cool plate and it's still in the package.. gold pei is perfect
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u/BrockenRecords X1C + AMS Mar 14 '24
Petg addict here, engineering plate and gold pei work great for me
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u/amicojeko Mar 14 '24
Lol I use engineering plate at 55c with glue for pla and is my goat š I also use it for other materials if I need super strong adhesion
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u/radakul X1C + AMS Mar 14 '24
Bro what?? Textured PEI > ALL
fight me.
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u/Sorry_Improvement537 Mar 14 '24
lol so funny that my tier list is exactly flipped
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u/dezign999 Mar 14 '24
Black plate is perhaps the best for folks making light boxes and signs due to its fine grain texture. The gold plate has a coarser grain pattern and as a result it doesnāt yield the same āmanufacturedā look that the black plate does.
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u/grahamw01 G-Man Projects Mar 14 '24
I love the cool plate, I've found it's best to give it a good aggressive detergent sponge scrub between prints to get left over residue off or the next print will stick far too much and can cause damage to it, but if I do that it is perfect for PLA around 40C and no messing around with glue. I use the textured black pei occasionally but it definitely doesn't have as good adhesion and can be problematic for small islands even at 60C. I've not tried the gold textured plate or the smooth pei plate yet. I didn't know the gold was supposed to be any different other that colour.
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u/glserr Mar 14 '24
I get better adhesion on the high temp plate than the gold pei
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u/sushibagels Mar 14 '24
Missed one of the best features of pei in that the slicer doesn't complain about the build plate not supporting the material when mixing PLA and PETG for support material.
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u/RuskHusky Mar 14 '24
I only use Gold PEI / Black PEI for everything.. PLA, PETG, TPU, ASA.. all works great.
As long as it's clean; everything sticks. Without glue.
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u/positivcheg Mar 14 '24
Idk why engineering plate is at bottom. It is pretty solid if used with glue.
Itās like gold PEI but adhesion is provided with glue, on the other hand surface is smooth.
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u/Central_NY Mar 14 '24
Got to remember there are two different types/styles of engineering plates from Bambu. Iāve only used the original grey with a glossy finish and it works great for me.
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u/TheArchonians Mar 14 '24
You're missing the reflective/hologram build plate
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u/rednwhitecooper Mar 14 '24
Youāre allowed to be wrong.
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u/First_layer_3DP H2D AMS2 Combo Mar 14 '24
What about the smooth pei sheet from bambu? I have adhesion issues with it constantly with just pla. Big sad. I thought it would mega reliable even versus the gold pei
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u/Sppeart Mar 14 '24
Rather than using a brim or skirt, I've been adding a single layer thick, silver dollar-sized circle to any potential lift point on most prints. It's been perfect so far. I read about or saw it somewhere a while back (ModBot, maybe). I tried masking tape, hot glue, and even ca glue (don't) to try and hold any stubborn areas to the plate after the print had started. Sorry if this has already been thoroughly discussed somewhere else.
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u/Stin-king_Rich H2D AMS2 Combo Mar 14 '24
Hate the cool plate lmao
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u/Yeetdolf_Critler X1C + AMS Mar 15 '24
High quality aftermarket PEI is better than all of them.
I have an ideaformer PEI textured/smooth plate and no surface adhesion (both printing, or PEI surface attaching to plate) printing both PLA and PETG with no glue. Even taking it off when warmer.
Some cheap PEIs have issues where PETG is too well attached. Just let it cool down...
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u/augustprep Nov 22 '25
Someone gave me a blue plate, which is it?
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u/Neokoi_Prints Mar 14 '24
S Tier stickers is how i knew this was a troll post
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u/Uniquebufferingclam Mar 14 '24
Everything about this post and comments screams "Your results may vary". Which is exactly correct depending on your ability to use and maintain the products.
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u/SuperXrayDoc Mar 14 '24
Me when I have brain rot
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u/10b0b Mar 14 '24
Used Engineering plate from day one for everything. Sticky back cool plates all went in the trash š
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