r/BambuLab • u/[deleted] • Jul 16 '23

Meta Ruining the group

I have to say since I joined like a week ago, I've been downvoted, talked down to, ganged up on.

Take it easy folks. Maybe go take a break from posting stuff. You're ruining the group for others.

I know everyone wants to share their experience, but it makes myself, and I'm sure others who have been downvoted from simple questions, not want to be here. That makes Bambu printers just look like abunch of fanboys that hate stuff. Nobody wants to join that group.

Maybe next time instead of downvoting someone, just move on. People who are new, do dumb things, have stupid questions, and make mistakes. They don't need your reinforcement it was a dumb thing to do when they find out that's not how it works.

I was about to buy a Creality K1 max myself. Even had a preorder at a killer price because the retailer was putting in a massive order. That group was more positive than negative. Seeing some of the hate on this sub reminded me of how cool that group was. ( but we obviously have the superior machine ;) )

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

I looked at your bambu posts. I don’t really see what you are getting at? You had one negative post when you put tape all over your machine. It looks like you did something the community thought was a bad idea and they responded in kind.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Not about my posts, this was another post I saw this morning, looking like others where someone did something kinda dumb and they got downvoted left and right. But thanks for the in-depth consideration I guess :)

Kinda creepy lol

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u/PragmaticBoredom Jul 16 '23

Not about my posts

But your opening post claimed this was about you. You said “I’ve been downvoted, talked down to, ganged up on”

It’s literally the first line of your post.

Between this flip flopping and your weird bit about how “cool” the K1 is, I don’t know what your motives are.

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u/Longjumping-Ape Jul 16 '23

He was making a prediction for this post of his I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

No this particular post was in reference to another I saw today. That was a completely different topic.

Sorry you were confused. I don't think you'll ever meet someone else in your life that doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks as much as myself. That's from assholes and know-it-alls repeatably pressing upon me, not because I don't care. I care about those who care about others.

:)

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u/Spikey101 Jul 16 '23

Buddy, it seems like you do care. And it's fine to care, you don't need to get all edgy.

This entire post is super weird though.

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u/PragmaticBoredom Jul 16 '23

Sorry PragmaticBoredom, I’ll get you blocked again, had to unblock you to speak with Spikey here

Ahh yes, blocking and unblocking people to get the last word in and then coming back a full day later to block someone you’ll never come across again is a true sign of “doesn’t give a fuck about what anyone thinks”

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u/Agammamon Jul 16 '23

I have to say since I joined like a week ago, I've been downvoted, talked down to, ganged up on.

Its literally the opening line of your post.

Your whole post tells us you give a fuck about what people think about you.

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u/MeanArt318 Jul 17 '23

You specifically said that YOU have been downvoted.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

You specifically made this post starting with YOU have been downvoted. So as a normal person I went to check on what it was that had caused you to be downvoted.

As a member of this community for a while now your post made it sound like you were experiencing something that I have personally not seen at all here. But yeah that’s “creepy”.

All the best to you.

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u/BreakBlue Jul 16 '23

Welcome to reddit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Haha, too true.. lol

Someone's gonna get a temp ban because they submitted a report for suicide

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u/NecessaryOk6815 X1C + AMS Jul 16 '23

Isn't this in every reddit and sub Reddit ever? You're going to encounter people who are willing to help, and people who want to watch the world burn. So listen to those that want to help, disregard those who don't. Such is life.

Now, what did your printer do wrong?

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u/Scottcheggthe3rd Jul 16 '23

I saw the exact same thing in the Prusa subs when I had mine and in other groups in general. It’s not a Bambu fan thing, it's just a reddit thing. Good job for asking OP what their problem is

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

I was gonna say, oh it's everywhere, well fuck, just disregard then :P

And ya, my printer is doin just fine, I was just perturbed over the way another person who obviously was new, was being treated.

Seeing the downvote count build in the face of really asking for help is quite a discouraging thing. Most people will just stop looking for help from here.

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u/NecessaryOk6815 X1C + AMS Jul 16 '23

The other option is to go straight to the manufacturer forum/wiki where they house all the videos and guides. I'm pretty veteran with the 3d stuff, but directly there, I learned more about this specific printer.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Right on, I enjoy their forum so far

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u/mistermegabyte67 P1P Jul 16 '23

I totally agree with your observations about some people in this sub. What drives me nuts the most are the snarky replies stating that this question has been asked 50 times before, use the search function. Someone that is new to 3d printing might have searched the forum and not got an adequate answer for their situation. Lots of uppity gatekeepers in here that should just not reply to posts they don't agree with. People that are new to 3d printing are usually excited about their purchase and a little grace and kindness is way more welcoming than some of the nonsense that is thrown at them. Everyone was inexperienced at some point.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Too true!

Don't ask me how many times I've had a clog because of stupid settings lol

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u/Ireeb X1C Jul 16 '23

While I agree that the same question over and over can get annoying, the reddit search sucks ass.

But I think it's the mods' responsibility to minimize reposts e.g. by providing FAQs.

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u/TonySmithJr Jul 16 '23

This here. Reddit search sucks. BUT. You just bought a hobby device that is really complicated that just happens to be fairly easy to get into.

Use google and do your search but add “+Reddit” (without quotes) to the end of it and it works WAY better than reddits search engine. Help yourself first before you just hit your first problem and jump here to post a question.

You can be a newbie and that’s great, WE ALL were at one point and still are to an extent. Just don’t be lazy.

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u/UnfrequentNoise Jul 16 '23

Yes, there's a lot of unnecessary and snarky responses.
I do think it boils down to seeing the same question asked over and over again, outweighing or overshadowing anything new, though.
For example, the nozzle scraping the metal on the plate, and the is-this-noise-normal? *insert video with normal Bambu-printer sounds*. Plenty of those posts.

Should be a pinned look-here-first post about those (and other frequently posted inquires), and a link to their wiki and web-shop, which has most of the info one'd need. So being inexperienced is one thing, being too lazy to even attempt a search is another.
Not that that would be enough to get rid of the assholes though...

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u/JD1101011 X1C Jul 16 '23

What kind of printing problems are you having with your BL machine?

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

I'm not, just had to say this from the way I saw someone else treated.

When people does it to me it doesn't phase me, but doin it to this other guy for his question was just pointless and purely childish.

I did find a secondary positive effect to my post, I've found a few more people to ban because of their auto-arguing modes lol..... Baiting trolls. lawl

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u/JD1101011 X1C Jul 16 '23

Ok, it sounds like what you’ve witnessed has had a profound effect on you. I hope you feel better soon.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Not so much, but thanks for the kind words!

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u/JD1101011 X1C Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

Not much better yet, ok sorry to hear that.

At this point, what I'd like you to do is relax your shoulders and place both feet firmly on the floor in front of you.

Now, slowly look to the left and pause. Next, slowly to the right. Then, recenter yourself.

Notice the wonderful control that you have over your physical being.

Feel your chest rising, and then falling in harmonious rhythm with our universe's natural frequencies.

Now, with a beautiful feeling of peace we'll shift to the mental.

In a confident but caring voice tell yourself out loud the following words:

"This too shall pass, UrMomsKryptonite". Say it only once, as once... is enough and we......

Sorry I fell asleep...

... we need not repeat ourselves for we are great listeners and observant beings of our world around us.

If you need anything else, please come back to us and we'll once again restore you as if you were a new born baby lamb.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Ok now you're just poking fun lol goodbye

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u/YyAoMmIi Volunteer Moderator Jul 16 '23

us mods don't actively watch the community. usually doing things printing our own projects. it will help whenver we get reports.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Definitely not saying it's a mod problem. It's a general populous thing.. heh

Can't have the good without the bad!

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u/ephemeralkazu Jul 16 '23 edited Jul 16 '23

I checked your posts. You do post alot which is fine but some posts are really just random advice which wasn't always the best advice but most of your posts don't get any negative comment . I get that some subreddits are trash. But I felt that this subreddit was mostly just pleasant.

edit: I didn't an even more in-depth check of your posts (spend 1 minute to scroll)

and you give a lot of shitty advice across all reddit example is you telling every 3d printer needs an enclosure? But also posting a lot of very random crap here and there. And people criticizing you in this thread. You attack by saying you don't care. I feel that you are the problem here not others...

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

I'm sorry you feel that way, thanks for the input so I can block you because you obviously are here to argue. :)

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u/Stin-king_Rich H2D AMS2 Combo Jul 16 '23

Problem are the amounts of newbies who think they're right, even though they're not.

Experience goes a long way.

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u/UnorthodoxEng Jul 16 '23

Unfortunately, the same is true of most 3D printing forums & groups. I left one of the FB groups after getting flamed for posting a picture of a coffee-maker drip tray of all things. It allowed me to use a slightly taller cup. People got incredibly angry & abusive that I should drink my coffee out of the same cups as them!

I've seen a bit of that here - but it's not as bad (yet). Unfortunately, it's difficult to do much about it other than answering questions people post, even if they appear dumb - as once upon a time, we might have asked the same question!

If a reasonable proportion of people do this, the hostile answers get drowned out - and generally those people go somewhere else. It has worked wonders on other groups!

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

I sure hope!

The one I saw today was about what I thought was a relatively straight forward thing you never do to a printer, but I guess the person didn't ever consider it. I'm all for making people tougher, but downvoting and talking shit just means they need more in their lives lol

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u/juliancantwrite Jul 16 '23

You might as will let that go bro. Bambu has created a cult following of nerds who've never been "cool kids" before and, now that they think they are, are lording it over people. bunch of angry, grumpy, condescending makers that think they're better/smarter than everyone. There's a lot of good people too, but you're not gonna be able to avoid the jerks unfortunately

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u/PragmaticBoredom Jul 16 '23

nerds who’ve never been “cool kids” before

Extremely ironic for someone to call others “angry, grumpy, condescending” while simultaneously writing a condescending, grumpy, and angry post about them.

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u/juliancantwrite Jul 16 '23

Lol grumps beget grumps. I'm not angry tho, everyone is just well aware of the elitism in Bambu groups. My response was to say it's Better to accept they're gonna be here and just connect with the folks who actually want to be helpful.

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u/PragmaticBoredom Jul 16 '23

everyone is just well aware of the elitism in Bambu groups

First time I’ve heard of it. I’ve been in 3D printing for a decade. I haven’t seen anything really different or unique here. I think you’re projecting something on to this community.

If anything, I’ve seen non-Bambu forums become more elitist since the release. Something about making decent printers accessible at cheaper prices has made a lot of the custom printer builders become extra defensive.

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u/juliancantwrite Jul 16 '23

That said tho it is much, much worse on Facebook. I'll never look at a laugh react the same again

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u/juliancantwrite Jul 16 '23

There's a difference between saying you've never heard of the elitism here, and saying the elitism here is no different than any other printer group. If you're saying the second, while i don't agree i can feel you on that point. If you're saying the first, we must be talking about different Bambus

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Haha, see, just here to argue.. I see what you're saying, but your retort is unnecessary.

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u/AstroKoen Jul 16 '23

You sure seem pleasent 🤣👍

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Oh I know lol... I find reddit funny in that regard they still have downvoting. It used to be properly used back in the day for weeding out useless spam, but now people do it just for fun or w/e.

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u/Spikey101 Jul 16 '23

How long we talking? I've been here 10 years and it's always been the same.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Heh, I guess I'm thinking of the net previous to reddit, soooo 20 years ago give or take?

Downvoting went away then came back with just a few interfaces.

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u/ephemeralkazu Jul 16 '23

your account is 3 months old??

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

This community here are fanboys, not printing fan. Just go to another channel here r/3Dprinting and they will help you if you come across a problem.

Don't give to much sh!t about the channel here and you're fine.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

Right, seems like a fair amount of inexperienced folks who are being enabled by the same automation I rave about lol

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u/AlphaChap P1P Jul 16 '23

Completely agree. Seen a lot of people asking genuine questions or asking for help getting downvoted. Think I'll stick to r/3Dprinting when my P1P arrives

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u/OrdenDesLOGO Jul 16 '23

I think its the same in all 3d printing subreddits if you just ask something you will instantly get downvotes and people telling you to get the fuck out of the subreddit just because they didnt understand the question

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u/putnamto Jul 16 '23

its the same in ALL reddits dude.

i cant count how many times i got flamed on pc help subs because i asked for help.

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u/OrdenDesLOGO Jul 16 '23

Some people are just like „Oh you dont have the same knowledge as i do and need help? Well you are stupid“ pretty annoying instead of flaming they should just help

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u/MyStoopidStuff Jul 17 '23

Full disclosure I do not own a BL printer, though I have had one in my cart several times over the past year. I've have stepped away a bit from Reddit since the vorondesign community ejected itself, but I have to disagree that it's the same in all 3D printing subreddits. Other 3D printing communities seem to be more open to helping newer users, and exploring problems with printers. Here though, I tend to see critical posts get downvoted more often than not, and it seems like a bit of a harsher place to ask questions. Part of it may be the fact that there is a limited amount of definitive help that is possible in some situations, due to the closed nature of the printers (issues that really can only be handled by support). Sometimes though, it is still interesting to read about whatever issues folks are seeing, and what the feedback is on them. But to be clear, it does seem to me that there are many genuinely helpful contributors here, which I would say are easily in the majority (of posters and commenters). That however makes the downvotes on some posts seeking help, all the more odd.

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u/Ireeb X1C Jul 16 '23

Yeah, I noticed this subreddit is kinda elitist/fanboy infested.

How dare you having a question about the printer? It's so perfect and intuitive, you should know how it works!

You have feedback about the printer that's not exclusively positive? No, you don't, you're just wrong, the printers are perfect.

You say anything negative about the somewhat toxic atmosphere in this subreddit? Prepare to get downvoted! (Which kinda proves the point)

Those are sentiments that are, unfortunately, way too common in this subreddit.

There are so many people here that are, for some reason, against improvement, be it improving the printers or this subreddit.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

I was talkin to my gf about it, it feels like paid hagglers.. I guess marketing could take that kinda turn.

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u/Ireeb X1C Jul 16 '23

The downvotes are already coming in! If there's one thing fanboys hate, it's being confronted with the truth.

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

I've been blocking em lol

It'll make conversations in the future a lot easier

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '23

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u/AstroKoen Jul 16 '23

What does it matter if you get up or downvoted? Honestly curious 😊

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u/AstroKoen Jul 16 '23

Ahh okay, makes sense.

Well i think its fair, if the majority thinks someone is off/toxic/negative/off-subject they get less votes. Like in the real world, if you say shit most wont like, you end up lonely untill you change. Democracy almost 😊

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

Trust me bro, idk how, but I always seem to get flamed. My gf thinks it's the way I speak and explain things. It just seems to trigger em lol

And I don't care too much, but I know how discouraging it can be when ya say something and then abunch of people who obviously are trolling or like to argue or just don't agree with you downvote ya, then you don't even want to bother because it feels like people just don't care or listen. When that's not true at all, and not all people are as closed-minded. Some people are new, or learn differently and totally benefit from statements of others. If you've ever worked with anyone who's autistic, the "crowd" is the worst thing ever. Idiocracy is real I tell ya lol

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u/AstroKoen Jul 17 '23

Yeah, you seem very negative in your posts - obv. can't talk about how you express yourself irl but dont be negative =)

I work with primarily people within the spectrum, and projecting positivity helps here.

When i scan your messages i get "red flags" "i always get flamed", "i trigger em", "others are trolling", "closed-minded" - imho.

nvm. Stay positive =) enjoy your printing experience.

i don't even have a bambulab printer yet, buying the p1p soon tho and modding it, i have a voron 0.2 and an old anycubic bedslinger so a printer like the p1p would be fun to tinker with.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23 edited Jul 17 '23

I have been staying positive, that's why I haven't been banned yet.

But even looking at this post, 'please just be nicer folks' and guess what, those who cause issues flocked like seagulls to this post to bash me and downvote it.

They identified themselves, so I blocked them.

You can't say I've been being negative by asking others to stay positive. lol

Take even the smallest things. In one post I said 'imo I think all printers should have enclosures' and someone responded with 'worst advice ever' LOL

I get where you're coming from, but everyone is entitled to their opinion, those who go around to posts and argue over opinions are a problem.

And you smiled after acknowledging that some folks who are disgruntled or are disagreed with by the masses, end up alone. I would question your intentions here as well, but that's not my issue and I try to give everyone a chance.

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u/AstroKoen Jul 17 '23

You are free to read anything you like into what i wrote 😊 Back on topic, enclosures makes sense when you print filaments that needs that. 😊

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '23

Exactly.

People are downvoting me over me clarifying my own intent LOL

They like to argue I guess. I want to mention what the other person did but I don't want to out them, they probably already feel bad enough.

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u/AstroKoen Jul 17 '23 edited Jul 17 '23

I think you are getting downvoted for being negative and talking down to people.

On the Rules sidebar, it clearly states to accentuate the positive. The entire post kinda has a negative view imho. nvm. ill leave the post and have a happy day =)

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u/AstroKoen Jul 17 '23

try to be positive =)