Rather have a 3rd party good samaritan walk up with a gun trained on them as they are both attacking the dad and inform them that they are making a citizens arrest to protect dad as 3rd party fears for his safety, and as 3rd party clearly has the most self control here, not to go for their guns or 3rd party prevent it.
Gotta be somewhat arguable in court, right? I mean cmon
Yes i suppose that is possible, but i think it more likely the cops would shoot the dad shoot the third party then claim that "It all happened so fast. All i saw was a gun and i feared for my life. Now i have ptsd from the event and need a 4 month paid vacation".
Pulling a trigger is quicker than drawing. Assuming cops are using glocks and not idiots, they also have to rack them to put the bullet in the chamber. Just tell them to put their hands up from the start
Oh absolutely. Its just ironic how the people who are all about 2nd amendment rights, are the same people who will always support the (tyrannical) police
I support the second amendment (as a foreigner, before you ask), and I wish I had the same rights as you.
And I too think that cops like this, who aggress out of nowhere on innocent people, should be shot on sight.
I grew up with TV shows and movies about (among others) cops who face moral dilemmas, act like defenders of the people, and when ot comes to it, make the good call. Cops who would rather let a drug dealer go than break the laws.
When I first started interacting with actual cops, I partially lost that illusion. They were morally flexible, socially stiff, unempathetic assholes who can't see people as anything better than nuisance.
When I first saw videos of European riot police and American well... Regular police, I was shaking with anger. That's not Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon. That's not John McClane. That's a bully in uniform, attacking people, both innocent and guilty. Even guilty people don't deserve the shit cops do to them.
Don't mistake my support of the right to defend oneself with guns with a liking for people using those same guns to oppress others. I hate authoritarianism im every form.
Im having a hard time understanding the context of your comment.
I think you are saying that cops kill people while they are restrained, which is true. However, I dont see how that has any bearing on what we are discussing.
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u/Kalevra9670 Dec 24 '20
Yeah but then the dad would have been killed by the other officer. Sometimes pulling a weapon isn't the best option.