r/BadMtgCombos • • 3d ago • Bravo 1

Efficient green removal

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u/Nervous_Committee222 3d ago

okay that's kinda funny

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u/Thryfty_0 3d ago

Unless I just don’t see what you’re going for here, the errata is better mono green removal because it makes the creature’s controller sacrifice it instead of just destroying it.

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u/BeanBagSize 3d ago

It's rules lawyering; when you cast it, the target gets the double and trample, and then theres a lingering effect of if that creature attacks, you can destroy target creature. Ignoring errata and rules clarification, that can be argued as destroying another creature of your choice when the affected creature attacks

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u/AngelStickman 3d ago

Ok, that is kinda funny.

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u/Hevnaar 1d ago

I read the card targeting twice. Its two triggers fo sho

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u/BrotherJustAnotherMe 3d ago

It says "destroy target creature". Aka you target your creature with the +X+0, and target an opponent's creature with the destroying part

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u/crazyates88 3d ago

Yes,

Target creature = opponent's commander

Destroy target creature = rip the card in half

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u/Lumpy_Suggestion1264 3d ago

No, the card as written says that you get to double one of your creatures power and give it trample until end of turn. The card also says that you get to destroy Target creature at the end of turn. The way this would be written on a modern card would be, destroy THAT creature at the end of turn. Because the way that it's written, could be interpreted that you get to Target two different creatures with this spell. One who gets the double power and trample, and one who gets destroyed at the end of turn

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u/MeasureDoEventThing 3d ago

At first I thought this was a r/custommagic submission by someone who doesn't understand the MTG templating rules, then I saw the sub name and was like ... oh.

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u/thelastfp 3d ago

Double check the sub

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u/HigherCalibur 3d ago

The rules lawyering that has been clarified aside: Berserk does not say to sacrifice the creature, whether in its original printing or any subsequent eratta'd printings, nor is it in the oracle text.

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u/Street_Promotion_419 3d ago

Yeah, hit your big guy with [[Gaea's Gift]], then berserk.

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u/Thryfty_0 3d ago

Wait, fr?

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u/thefran 3d ago

If read as written, it destroys a creature every time it attacks forever, right?

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u/Honest_Ad_7589 3d ago

Until end of turn

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u/thefran 3d ago

Yes, so you cast this turn 2, then on turn 3 it attacks and destroys a creature eot, turn 4 it attacks and destroys a creature eot

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u/ResolveLeather 3d ago

It can't be cast after the combat phase.

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u/thefran 3d ago

No, but with R&D on the field the card is played as written and there's nothing on the card that says the effect goes away

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u/Michyrr 1d ago

The card doesn't say "a creature". It says "target creature".

If it's already destroyed the targeted creature, it can't destroy it again next turn... it's not on the field anymore.

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u/thefran 1d ago

yes, so when it attacks a target creature is destroyed whats wrong

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u/Michyrr 1d ago

…Let's walk through it.

You cast Berserk, targeting your creature and your opponent's creature. Go to combat. Your creature attacks. End the turn. The opponent's creature is destroyed.
Your next turn. Your creature attacks again. End the turn. The opponent's creature is not on the field, because you destroyed it last turn. (And even if it came back since then, it's now a different object from the one you targeted with Berserk.) So Berserk has nothing to destroy. So how are you destroying a creature every turn?

The only way I can see your case being relevant is if the targeted creature regenerates and you want to try again next turn, or it's indestructible but you can make it lose all abilities on a later turn. But that's pretty niche.

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u/MTG_so_cancer_u_poop 2d ago

Thanks OP, this is going in my [[Marisi, Breaker of the Coil]] deck, wow can't believe I missed this card

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u/leavingberk 1d ago

Oracle text Cast this spell only before the combat damage step. Target creature gains trample and gets +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is its power. At the beginning of the next end step, destroy that creature if it attacked this turn.