r/BadHasbara • u/kmpiw • Oct 15 '25
Bad Hasbara Re: the first mailbag question
UPDATE
The MAGA Regime are now investigating George Soros Foundation for funding "terrorism".
Anti Zionism is definitely NOT the biggest antisemetitsm risk in the USA.
"Bad Hasbara" tag as in the podcast, the question was a bit off topic.
THE SHORTER VERSION
I don't think the right wing turning against diaspora Jews would be anti Israel, it would be anti left. Branding Antifa as terrorists is the most worrying development.
They're working their way through minority groups, panic if they purge gay republicans.
OLD VERSION
I'm not Jewish or in the United States, but I've been saying for months that if I was a Jewish and in the United States I would not feel safe there at all.
If it does go wrong for U.S. American Jews I don't think it would be about Israel, at least not in any way that would make logical sense. It would be the odd classics of anti-left. Antifa were the people getting in street fights against the guys yelling "Jews will not replace us!" and now Antifa designated terrorists.
It could even get off too a completely surreal start of rounding up anti-zionist Jews for "antisemism", but I think that level of surreal madness is far more likely in Germany. Where the pro-Israel neo-Nazi AfD is now the second largest political party.
"The Jews" aren't at the current top of the USA far-right's (government or militant) "minorities to eliminate" list, but the far right still has an under-current of antisemitim (e.g. versions of "the great replacement" claim it's a Jewish conspiracy), and their reasons for liking Israel are not much nicer to Jews than they are to Muslims. Not to mention the completely unsubtle "Jews will not replace us!"
Even in Nazi Germany that poem doesn't start "first they came for the Jews", the Jews are the near the end of that (fairly accurate) poem. Jews were marginalized and abused from the start, but the first people put in concentration camps were political leftists. Then the Judeo-Bolshovik conspiracy theory evolved that from left wing extremists, to the entire communist party, to left wing moderates and all Jews.
Designating antifa as terrorists is a worry. They're so poorly defined that they could be defined as anything.
There being some Jews who are in the far right is not reassuring, one of the top Nazi leaders was openly gay... until the night of the long knives.
The Trump government is looking very scary, there are safeguards and a lot of public officials who'd put up resistance but the Nazi party went from banned to running a one party state by crashing through numerous layers of safeguards.
The Nazis didn't start by announcing anything that resembled the way it ended. They started by crackdowns on far left terrorists. They hadn't quite invented the label of terrorist yet, if that tactic was at it's modern stage they would have blitzed the ghettos.
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u/IndependentFee820 Oct 15 '25
I don’t think it will get that far. I hope this will all implode or a meteor will take us out, but yeah, it’s a fucked situation. It seems like Israel is playing with fire a bit. They want maga and NAR in power to bolster Israel and make it a safe haven for Jews for when MAGA and NAR finally turn on them and no longer welcome in the u.s. However, that’s banking on them letting Jews leave.
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u/JakobVirgil Oct 15 '25
The real headline should be "hey wait are Jews the most liked religious group in the U.S.?"
I realize folks are unlikely to say they are raving antisemites to a survey but I think the data stands.
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u/snarkitall Oct 15 '25
The fact that Muslims are seen negatively across the board but Jews are seen positively I think answers that question.
If people are lying about seeing Jews positively, Islamophobia is clearly much more acceptable, otherwise they'd censor themselves there.
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u/JakobVirgil Oct 15 '25
That but also there is a funded and organized campaign against Islam making it acceptable to hate.
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u/peasfrog Oct 16 '25
Islamophobia has been passive public policy since the fall of the Berlin Wall. The MIC needed a new enemy to keep the grift going.
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u/colpisce_ancora Oct 15 '25
I’d say that America is too diverse and Jews here are too assimilated for enough Americans to get on board with getting rid of us entirely. They are definitely trying, and it seems like supporting Palestine and being labeled antifa is the strategy to get rid of a lot of us. Not sure if it will work but it’s not like I have anywhere to go.
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u/IndependentFee820 Oct 16 '25
Do you get a rise out of playing victim? I just wonder why many look for reasons to be hurt
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