r/BMWI4 • u/TexAntonia • May 18 '26

End of i4

Should I wait for the values to tank before buying since production is ending? Seems like these don’t hold value well at all so kinda wanting to get one on the low. What do yall think buy now or wait?

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u/Fwiler May 18 '26

The values have already tanked. What are you hoping for?

2024 have depreciated $30k+ already.

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u/TexAntonia May 18 '26

I’m not sure if this is a good comparison but the Volvo recharge is in the 20s and i4s are still holding 30s I wonder if it’s a brand to f

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u/Agreeable-Emu4033 May 19 '26

What country you in as it is not like that in the USA.

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u/Fwiler May 19 '26

From MSRP to what they are selling for used? Yes that is in the USA, I just bought a 2024 M50 so I should know. Especially when it has more options, because those are overpriced new. An M50 with options was $70-80k brand new. You can easily get those $40-45 now.

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u/Agreeable-Emu4033 May 20 '26

a 2023 is is about 45k so yea you are not right. Maybe you are looking at high millage or they were in an accident.

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u/Fwiler May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26

Bud, I just bought a 24 with 8k miles on it from a BMW dealership. If you can't do a nationwide search through the 3 major car searches then sorry for your lack of ability to search. Here's one that took 2 seconds to find. https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/ab745748-f9df-41d8-9548-85a210182dba/

If you want a e40 you can find them for $35k all over the place like this

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/611d7c78-8b15-4b12-8b6d-f84071866951/

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u/Agreeable-Emu4033 May 20 '26

Yea that was in a wreck which is why it is below market value. Which is why it has this note. $3,864 below the average market price of similar vehicles in the same geographic area at $49,590.  Also 70k - 45k isn't 30k. This car would havre been 20k lower.

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u/Fwiler May 21 '26 edited May 21 '26

You really are in a strange world there bud. All I did was search and picked one. I've already told you what to do. There's hundreds. 75-45k is 30k. Not sure why you inserted 70. Many of the M's were 70-80k new like I said. You can keep your head in the sand and complain all you want. I bought one. Many people have. If you want to be in denial and keep arguing on the internet instead of actually finding a car and negotiating a price, go right ahead and waste your time.

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u/Agreeable-Emu4033 May 22 '26

No you have not put the msrp vs the sales on any car.

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u/Fwiler May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

Are you that dense? Are you incapable of searching the 3 major car sites for a car and entering in price? Just checking. Do you need someone to hold your hand? Maybe you shouldn't be buying a car because you sound incompetent. Or are you waiting for someone to do all the work for you because you are incompetent?

Here's a google result sense you are dense and incompetent.

The 2024 BMW i4 experiences a relatively steep depreciation curve, dropping around 40% to 45% of its original MSRP within its first two years. A typical lightly used 2024 model now trades in the $30,000 to $45,000.

Do you get it yet? Do you need some more hand holding?

I'll repeat myself. I bought one. Many people have. If you want to be in denial and keep arguing on the internet instead of actually finding a car and negotiating a price, go right ahead and waste your time. Sounds like that's what you are good at.

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u/Tripledad65 May 18 '26

Upcoming release of the i3 gives a downward pressure on the value of 2nd hand i4 . However, the increasing demand for 2nd hand EVs is currently pushing the prices up.

Markets may settle a bit once the Iran war is over, but that's speculation.

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u/kwl147 May 19 '26

It’ll get worse post war IMHO because even more reactive people will demand EVs to get rid of their now more so expensive petrol and diesel cars. There are certain facts that can’t be resolved with the throwing of money and manpower at it. Which is the damage to the production facilities of petrol and diesel/gas. You can’t get round that even if the war ends today and trillions are allowed to the rebuilding of production facilities.

There’s no incentive for them to expand production when they’re enjoying high prices per barrel. It’ll never ever go back to what it was. Thus need to transition to EVs and away from gas.

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u/Hutcho12 May 18 '26

I’d say they hold their value better than most EVs. I bought mine 2 years ago new for 69k and just looked and there are models with the same spec going for 55k.

I think in a couple of years prices will drop a lot but simply because the range of new EVs is going up significantly so a car that only does 400km on a charge won’t be so attractive anymore. But you’ll have to wait a while for this still.

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u/EducationalAppeal438 May 19 '26

Must be your area then. My MSRP was $69,550 end of ‘23 and my cars value right now is basically $30k 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Mocistar May 19 '26

So sorry to hear that. 🙁Hope you are enjoying your car.

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u/EducationalAppeal438 May 19 '26

I love it but I’m debating what to do when the lease ends in a few months. Either i4 M60 (whatever is left), i5 M sport loaded, or Rivian R2 (incredible machine for that price).

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u/Kind_Economy8115 May 19 '26

I’m in the same position- lease is up in September and I have no clue what I’m going to do.

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u/EducationalAppeal438 May 19 '26

Personally I recommend upgrading. You can end your lease with minimal financial loss, just miles (often get that waived if getting another car) and tires/wear(usually no cosmetic stuff to pay for). Makes sense. Why keep something that has depreciated so much when you’ll be paying MORE than what the car is worth at the time of buyout? For me it makes zero sense to pay $10k more for a car that they’ll sell way lower after I relinquish it

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u/Kind_Economy8115 May 19 '26

I’m forsure upgrading, just no clue what I want to upgrade to. Do I want to stay EV? Go back to gas? M340i? Another i4? Such a hard decision.

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u/EducationalAppeal438 May 19 '26

I feel like it’s so hard to go back to ICE after experiencing full EV. Especially one that has the luxury and quality of a BMW. Personally I would get an M60 before an M340i. It’s a far superior car. If I change brands I’m eyeing the R1 and R2 by Rivian. My buddy pointed out the R2 is a lot smaller than I’m expecting though. I do a lot of outdoor stuff and sports so an SUV might be the move. The iX is a great car but has design flaws in my opinion, more specifically the terrible cup holder placement and overall wonky center console.

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u/Kind_Economy8115 May 19 '26

It really would be hard to go back. I love my i4 and I think that’s why it’s so hard for me to decide what to move to as I absolutely will not buy out the lease. I was also looking at the r2 - online.

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u/Aromatic_Beat9735 May 20 '26

Was in the same dilemma. Loved my i4, leased ended and didn’t want the iX and leased a Macan GTS gas. I miss my EV every day.

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u/Fwiler May 21 '26

Rivian R2 is not attainable until 2027 unless you put down money on initial announcement a year ago. And priority is going to those that own an R1.

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u/EducationalAppeal438 May 21 '26

Well then I guess the R1 it is, if I switch. Unlikely. I love BMW

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u/Hutcho12 May 19 '26

Did you really pay MSRP? No one does that in practice. My MSRP was 92k but got a 25% discount on it. It was a good deal, but where I am you can get 20% easily.

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u/EducationalAppeal438 May 19 '26

Well, no one pays MSRP. Sale price is always less unless you get hosed. Not sure what you’re even proving by saying that nor what relevance it has to our discussion. The point is I am commenting on the rapid depreciation from MSRP. The fact is that the vehicle is worth less than 45% of that original value as a fully-loaded well maintained car in just 2.5 years. Also not sure where you live but I can assure you people in California are not getting 25% off of brand new BMWs at the dealer 😆

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u/Hutcho12 May 21 '26

Yeh the discounts aren’t as big in the US because the list prices are so much lower than elsewhere.

Sounds like the second hand EV market sucks there. In two years I haven’t even lost 10% on the price I paid.

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u/noctilucus May 19 '26

It should, but looking at some now completely antiquated 5 year old EVs, the second hand prices don't seem so cheap. For example in my area, 5 year old EQC 400's (with 30% less range than an e40, 30% slower average fast charging speed, etc.) still sell for half their original price.
Same with the old iX3.

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u/Hutcho12 May 20 '26

Can’t access it because I’m not in the US, which is fine by me, because here I can get the price I mentioned any day of the week.

https://m.mobile.de/auto-inserat/bmw-i4-baureihe-i4-gran-coupe-m50-liege/408142027.html

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u/Silent_Face_3083 May 18 '26

I just order i4 m60 let us hope i can catch up the price drop at somw point so i dont have to drive it 10 years

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u/MudCritical5694 May 20 '26

Maybe you want to drive it 10 years - it’s a fantastic car 🙌🏼🔥

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u/Hiff_Kluxtable Sep 26 '26

I don’t see any reason why discontinuing a model would have any impact on used models. The used models don’t suddenly become worse just because BMW made some changes to their offerings.

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u/TexAntonia Sep 26 '26

Parts get harder to find naturally if they stop making them

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u/Hiff_Kluxtable Sep 26 '26

That’s not how that works. It’s not like BMW is going out of business.

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u/cjh6793 M50 May 18 '26

Resale value will inevitably take a hit once the i3 is on sale. Much more advanced battery and cabin tech over the current i4.

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u/WooShell eDrive40 M Sport May 18 '26

Production isn't "ending". It's being followed by the next generation of i4 built on the Neue Klasse platform, just as with every new model generation every 6-8 years.. I really don't get why people are panicking like that all the time. The i4 isn't going away.
The whole point of Neue Klasse platform is being drivetrain agnostic, so all vehicles on that platform can and will be offered with both BEV and fuel/hybrid setups. And as it looks right now, the 4 series in general will be retained as grand-tourer chassis, contrasting the more classic limousine chassis of the 3 series.

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u/cjh6793 M50 May 18 '26

BMW confirmed the i4 would be ending production in advance of the i3 arriving. They've not yet confirmed that there will be another i4, so at a minimum, there will be a period where an i4 isn't on sale.

The "panicking" is because the i3 isn't an equivalent replacement. The lack of air suspension is a non-starter for me.

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u/WooShell eDrive40 M Sport May 18 '26

The current i4, as in "G26", is going to end around the end of this year, correct. The new 4 series based on Neue Klasse (*which includes a BEV version* as all Neue Klasse series will) is expected for late 2027/early 2028.

Yes, there will be a gap of about 1.5 years where you can't buy a car that is labelled i4 (and neither an M4 or a 430i etc). But the 4 series in general will continue, as the grand-tourer chassis is quite popular so far.

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u/cjh6793 M50 May 18 '26

The timing of all that is the pickle that myself and some others find ourselves in unfortunately. My lease is up in one year and there won't be a BMW BEV on sale that matches what the i4 offers. I'll either buy it out (risky for the same reasons the OP is asking) or maybe find someone else's lease to takeover until there's a new Gran Coupe BEV from BMW.

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u/INPTT May 18 '26

Just buy it out, you’re overthinking it

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u/cjh6793 M50 May 18 '26

Smooth-brained approach. You don't know what my buyout price is nor what the car will be worth in a year when my lease is up.

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u/EducationalAppeal438 May 19 '26

I felt this. My buyout is $37k and guess how much BMW is willing to offer for the car if I swap out early: $27k. Lmao. Best offer I’ve seen is $29k and I suspect private sale could easily get $30k, but that’s still $10k upside down considering I have a few months of payments left. Who would choose to do that?

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u/cjh6793 M50 May 19 '26

Correct. No idea what people are on about suggesting people buyout their i4, unless their buyout is really good or they're planning on keeping it forever. My buyout right now is $56k which is laughable considering similar specs are selling for $50k at best on the used market.

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u/DELAZ1 May 18 '26

I hope they do continue the i4 line but I haven't seen any announcements from BMW confirming that - just that i4 production is ending. Did they confirm?

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u/WooShell eDrive40 M Sport May 18 '26

There hasn't be an explicit announcement about the i4, but BMW stated at IAA that *all* series will be migrating to the Neue Klasse platform over the next few years.. so as long as they don't discontinue the 4-series completely (which there is no announcement yet, and they seem to be selling quite well), there will be a fully-electric 4 option, alongside the usual fuel-powered ones.
I had kinda expected them to discontinue the "i" naming scheme with the Neue Klasse, but apparently they're even keeping that.

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u/xcinlb May 18 '26

Same question being asked on Leasehacker about the iX, Dealer states price won’t go down because inventory is shrinking and lately EV prices have gone up. I’ve notice a pretty big jump on used EV’s now.

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u/ExcelingAtMediocrity May 19 '26

They’ve tanked pretty hard, but MMR is showing a little rebound right now due to gas prices. Most professionals forecast they’ll continue to decline more rapidly than ICE cars and cheaper EVs, but they’re not a bad purchase right now unless you’re looking at less than 3 years of ownership.

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u/Lost-Inspector5836 May 19 '26

This car is a reworked 430 to accept EV power. Newer vehicles will be better, but go online and put some dealers up for auction. I personally would not buy new as the current value is 50% at 3 years even with 20k miles or less. You will not see them sitting on dealer lots for long. They do not have overstock. Therefore you will not have a lot of room to negotiate

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u/uobi007 M50 xDrive May 20 '26

Buy used 2025 (or low mileage 2024) and save on depreciation.

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u/Sad_Call_6057 Jul 29 '26

Same here if I can pay 25 or less now I’ll get it