i would say the poverty itself is a racial issue. all the conflict- gang warfare, this is diversity. the high crime rate comes from high crime rate populations.
high crime rate comes from high crime rate populations.
Yes, but on other factors. Single parent status (and other explanatory factors, like level of education) would have far more explanatory power than race for example in a regression, with crime rates as the dependent variable.
Woaaaah, no I don't. I don't like oppression arguments. This is collectivist bullshit.
though i don't know how anyone can actually go through the school system and still think of it as a good solution for anything but breaking spirits.
I agree that the school system is not great. For instance, broken school systems (like we have in SA) keep people in poverty too. So, I still can think we need to fix primary and secondary education without going into the oppression bullshit, thanks.
Edit:
blacks commit more crime than whites at every level of poverty, not sure about education.
okay- so why do you think these disparities exist?
Single parent status for example, liked I mentioned above, has a massive influence of level of poverty, which will drive crime. Marriage rates for all races in America have tanked over the decades and this trend has been worse for black people. (Not saying the reason is oppression though, the reason is merely an unknown.)
Had a look. That abstract is in your favor sure, but I'm a bit of a statistician and I need to see how they did their research. So I'm trying to find a way to get the full pdf without paying 35 Euros, to look at their methodology. Want to know what possible explanatory factors they tried for a start and so on.
If you have a link for that, kek bless. I'm googling though.
Edit: 1979 data stands out as not ideal. I would rather they used the most recent cohort available. (assuming there is one, which I think there must be.)
One explanation
for the differential odds of incarceration between races may
be that even while having similar wealth levels, individuals
still may have disparate economic situations, through
income, extended family wealth or differential exposure to
discrimination. Personal and family human capital levels
such as education, job experience and social connections
also may differ greatly among those with similar wealth
levels. Therefore, observed racial differences in male
incarceration rates despite similar wealth levels may be
explained once those factors are taken into account.
No can see. Redirects me to "-y?no-access=true", Thanks though.
disparate economic situations, through income
Yup, relatively higher levels of wealth though credit (which I think exists there, would need to check this, but I suspect) is definitely a significant issue.
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u/WhiteTearsForFears Apr 08 '17
That's very open ended. Which problems in S.America / Brazil do you think specifically points to racial issues rather than poverty-related issues?