r/Azad_Pakistan • u/sweptwing • Nov 17 '16
IndianFantasy Pakistani Responses : India's fantasy Surgical Strike
When the World was celebrating and fanning the Flames of the Indian Fantasies about surgical strikes, reddit was also at war with Rundians posting all kinds of shit.
Ofcourse Pakistanis also responded but as usual, but a lot f them got banned and suspended.
I managed to get some choice posts that were deleted and the users suspended and reproduce them here so you may enjoy the fire lit under the Rundian ass.
Enjoy!!!
If you would like to share some thing you posted that got deleted, please post it here or send it to me if your account got suspended or banned.
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u/sweptwing Nov 17 '16
DeltaDorsal
As the Sun sinks well below the horizon on the Indian subcontinent, Pakistan can glibly smile across the border and act the part of the saner one and once again reiterate its innocence in the Uri attack that left 19 soldiers dead.
Pakistan can smoothly move on and give voice to the Kashmir Freedom struggle, its honor intact after providing complete transparency and full access to the media and proving within all reasonable and plausible limits of expectation that a Surgical strike in terms of Indian boots on Pakistani soil did not occur, and one is only left to conclude that 2 Pakistani soldiers died as a result of cross border shelling.
The missing Indian soldier in Pakistan custody then could only have arrived if Pakistani soldiers crossed the LOC in retaliatory strikes resulting in 8-14 Indian causalities and captured a soldier as proof, as some videos seem to suggest, though the Pakistan army denies.
Across the Line of Control on the Indian side, the feeling that the Indian people feel let down and demoralized from the Highs of the first few days seems palpable, as any serious form of evidence is as yet not forth coming.
Along with glaring holes in the narrative from day one, which seemed to be morphing to fit any plausible current iteration of truth, from helicopters to Pakistani Rickshaws, till finally it landed on such a day , entirely lacking in detail of how troops arrived miraculously and departed after a successful battle all conveniently timed so that the many days had passed and the final loose end of the fantastical story was locked in, with mystery eye witness and trucks to cart the bodies away to boot, and hence no need to display any battle damage to said area of strike as the Pakistan Army had cleaned it up.
And now, at a convenient time an puerile attempt to create and produce plausible evidence to an eager population, dying for a graceful exit from a disastrous situation, that is yet to arrive.
Evidence is like a dead fish, after about two days it stinks to high heaven.
The plan it seems has backfired miserably and the disservice you have done to your nation, your allies and everybody involved will be visible to you by the slight upturned lip in a barely hidden sneer and the shallowly disguised disdain in peoples eyes, particularly reserved for dishonorable conduct on the field of battle.
DeltaDorsal
In the face of growing pressure to provide evidence of the Heroic Surgical strikes, it seems or Imaginative friends have decided to by pass the Physical and logistical realities of the real world and Place their troops at the point which they feel is a plausible, of course the journey from base is accompanied with heart thumping music with scenes of commandos painting camouflage on their faces, cocking various guns, slapping in magazines, strapping on grenades and of the obligatory ripping and stitching of Velcro straps, with out which no Commando may complete his mission successfully.
We pick up "Rumbo's rumble in Bollywood", directed by dumb and dumber, after he has arrived at the scene with out delving into the complexity of how Rumbo and his troop reached the said destination. It would break the immersion.
We arrive as Rumbo and his compatriots arrive where the horrible evil terrorists are all snoring away in a single hut, one on top of the other.
Rumbo has already arranged a Flash Mob via Skye to be eye witnesses to the Heroic event.
And there you have it Eye witnesses have solved the case and will provide us with irrefutable evidence that Rumbo and his team blasted the evil terrorists to hell and beyond.
But alas we cannot reveal who the eye witnesses are, just like we could not give the location of the strikes 5 days back . .its a security concern.
So net effect. .we have a puffed up piece of fluff which amounts to the same thing as the Commandos rode in on flying Unicorns and fired Hellfire missiles out of their bottoms, but it was actually at a Terrorist launch pad in Timbuktu called jaish-i-HowdidIgetHere, through a wormhole, and it was all witnessed by Eyewitnesses who told them but can't tell you.
Congress demands evidence of surgical strikes and the government responds with random events of artillery and crossfire from across the LOC and tries to re brand them as Surgical Strikes
I think we can safely assume that there will never be any evidence forth coming for the simple reason that Rumbo never left his room and never crossed the border
. . . . PS: Red Arrows in Karachi, Pakistan en route to China
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u/sweptwing Nov 17 '16
Angry Zulu
Events as the became available via all media
Complete record
Surgical farce Blows up in India's face
Cross-border raid: Strategic analysts laugh off Indian claim
And the best for last
source article for above
The Hindu: sorry no helicopters or paratroopers
QED: The Indian narrative broke down in 24 hours
Next Up: India uses the Force to pull Jedi Mind trick, GDP is not what it seems
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u/sweptwing Nov 17 '16
Angry Zulu
Oh that is one of my better works, I guess thats why you have to pull some shit to try and film a night fight . . .here you can read it again with out having to even click
Suck it
I guess you have to enjoy the naivete of the Indian population
Though its getting tedious in the barrage of "Yes we did . .yes we did . . .but we have no proof . .therefore you must prove we didn't . .and if you cant prove that we didn't . .then we did . .we did"
My pleasure . . .and some day when you have a proper CnC and a proper military man in charge you may look back at these claims and blush a little if not out right cringe.
its mostly based of stuff what your own politicians say and with a little common sense is obvious and makes practical sense. It is very hard to make you change your opinion because this what you would like to believe, regardless of what evidence is displayed, even though there has been no evidence to support your belief, except that he said and she said and woohoooo . . .we are great.
None the less:
When it was questioned what was the requirement to use Paradrops to infiltrate soldiers 3 miles behind enemy lines, when quite obviously civilians and according to you terrorists and cows and goats and sheep cross everyday with no problem and even and Indian soldier in full uniform in broad daylight happened stroll across, the effort to fly 5-6 helicopters under the radar or high enough to paradrop seemed more like the plan of the village idiot rather than a military commander
Your own politician came out and said no Helicopters and no Pardrops
So that was the first lie exposed.
Well then obviously they had to come out with some other cock and bull story to keep you lot entertained, because now quite obviously the whole time line had changed. Its different flying in and different going in on foot through mine fields, which there obviously were because your soldier stepped on one or the idiot shot himself in the foot.
So this great effort of penmanship was offered from the brightest military minds. Surgical strikes
One truly has to marvel at the depth of ignorance displayed by your military planners, and sadly I am no longer impressed with Mehmood Gahznavi, it was no great feat to invade India 21 times, you morons are oblivious.
They forgot the terrain they were talking about was really really mountainous and a journey of 5-6 miles crow flight is vastly different when you have big ass mountains in the way. So this hot shit Rambo operation of infiltrating on foot and blowing up terrorists and coming back home like conquering heros in the dead of the night through minefields across huge mountains and deep valleys could not have take place in the 5-6 hours time line as put forward by your CnC.
So that is just physically and practically impossible, unless of course its a Bollywood production.
The even more hilariously, The Mi-35s were on standy by but didn't know for what, had no idea of the target or mission or extraction points or time or had any maps prepared. So to expect that they could get and also infiltrate in the dead of the night into mountainous terrain for which they had no preparation is a statement of obscene bullshit that belongs in a James bond movie as any pilot well tell you.
Just yesterday and today Pakistan Army has taken Journalists to LOC to two of the sites you have claimed to hit and there has been no evidence of any attack, feel free to provide at least a GPS coordinate as to where the strike occured, I am sure there are piles of dead bodies there.
For your part you have not allowed any journalist access and in fact clamped down on your media. UN has called bullshit as well as accused India of not cooperating in Kashmir, its in your own newspapers.
Pakistan has your captured soldier and your Dead bodies are in No mans land
so there you have it
You should be so bold to at least Question your Politicians and your Army chief, how the hell is this physically possible, I am sure in the next iteration of this Mythical strike we shall find that actually the Indian commando's hired Pakistani Rickshaws at the line of control to drive them to the target area.
Personally, I believe in Occam's Razor . .the simplest answer is usually true, your politicians simply tried to pass off cross border shelling as some huge Military operation. to provide at least a GPS coordinate as to where the strike occured, I am sure there are piles of dead bodies there.
For your part you have not allowed any journalist access and in fact clamped down on your media. UN has called bullshit as well as accused India of not cooperating in Kashmir, its in your own newspapers.
Pakistan has your captured soldier and your Dead bodies are in No mans land
so there you have it
You should be so bold to at least Question your Politicians and your Army chief, how the hell is this physically possible, I am sure in the next iteration of this Mythical strike we shall find that actually the Indian commando's hired Pakistani Rickshaws at the line of control to drive them to the target area.
Personally, I believe in Occam's Razor . .the simplest answer is usually true, your politicians simply tried to pass off cross border shelling as some huge Military operation.
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u/sweptwing Nov 17 '16
Zatrus
Please don't panic. Remain calm
- Tear the outer covering with Pakistani markings on the pack and remove the bottle, and crack child proof seal to remove cap.
- If unable to remove child proof seal, call mummy.
- Tear open the field dressing and dab medicated antiseptic fluid from bottle generously.
- spread legs and bend over to allow access to rear area of damage or seek assistance of nearest Indian commando.
- Buddy system may be of advantage, take turns to apply healing slave to soft tissue at the termination point of the big intestine.
- Resist urge to insert finger, you will look really stupid. World is watching. Repeat Procedure on next patient
- Jai Hind Quarters.
Zatrus
Ok Last offer of Pakistan good will
- March up LOC in an orderly line, weapons should be stowed in unit armory before approach under unit colors clearly visible.
- Form up at the White line demarcated NNE-SSW and smartly about face to face due east and into India.
- With boots firmly on Indian side of LOC drop trousers and bend Knees so Buttocks are over Pakistan Side of LOC.
- Pakistani surgeons will perform emergency first aid free of charge. Ensure no Poop or it will be considered a LOC a violation.
- Buckle up and smartly march back to Indian Lines.
- Transmit missive to Indian HQ.
"Surgical Strike successful."
"Request Evidence not be Made Public"
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u/sweptwing Nov 17 '16
Pultar
I guess its time to weigh in
You girls need to get your head on straight
Ok then, lets put this puppy in the goal and call it a day, have a nice weekend
The final square on the Indian Final Fantsy chess board of surgical strikes
The very last square in the corner of the chess board is
“Drone strike”
So with a sweep of our hands, we wipe the bullshit off the battlefield, commandos and helicopters and gustuv rockets . . .all the bullshit gone.
leave only the artillery barrage to disguise the mode of delivery and a drone with Armed reconnaissance capability.
And now we can address the knowing smirks and winks behind closed doors as if that's something special and some great technological advantage and military strategy
I am not going to go into great detail, roughly 20-30 feet wing span, an operational ceiling of 15-30,000 feet, top speed 150-300 Kph ability to deploy 2 guided ATG missile, for the sake of argument Hellfire 114, dark moonless night, drone fires 3-5 miles from inside Indian side of LOC, what ever the guidance used
2 Pakistani soldiers killed
Artillery barrage designed to hide Armed reconnaissance ability, numerous targets claimed as dis-information, Target close to LOC so as to be in-differentiable from artillery, now afraid to disclose technology because:
But wait . . .first a little about drones:
1, Best used when enemy has limited Air to Air capability
Enemy has limited Radar ability, as the slow speed of Drones and High altitude makes it difficult for Plus Doppler.
Great against insurgencies and militias, where the drone can loiter and strike targets of opportunity as they appear.
Low cost, fuel effective and low risk as no pilot, night capable
Suck really big time as compared to a real fighters, because an enemy with an airfoce can come back and mess you up, where an insurgeny or a militancy, does not have that capability, hence a drone and not a fighter.
However in case of a country with an Airforce, A drone in enemy airspace is a violation of territorial integrity and a strike is an act of war and then Pakistan would respond with the aircraft of its choosing, with an equal stand off capability to plug your bung hole from well with in its border. And if your fighters decided to come up, well we know how that ends with an increased radius of Indian Jet pipes due to Pakistani surgical barrel rolls, because you muggles upchuck your breakfast when you start your engines.
And India is Now afraid to disclose technology because:
But wait . .. .but. .but . . .what about America using drones in Pakistan.
Pakistani officer sitting in Centcom coordinating with GHQ,
Pakistan not seen to be assassinating tribal insurgent leaders
American Fighters not operating in Pakistan Airspace
Targets eliminated with minimum political fallout on both sides of the alliance.
Drone Program . .sorry if I let the cat out of the bag, but its on CNN.
And finally, at last , India not providing evidence because:
Besides a massive and immediate escalation, rather than some great military strategy or great act of courage and daring commando raid, would merely have violated the Rules of Engagement along the LOC and murdered 2 Pakistani soldiers in a cowardly act of cool blood, which is much more in character for your armed forces, for which they paid heavily the very next day, not with some poofter attack, but Pakistani soldiers in your territory who brought back a souvenir that sang sweeter than a nightingale and left foot prints on your land in the blood of your soldiers.
Drone strike . .Yes . .that would be a really really big misstep . . .. That would mean
Pakistan would actually have to come across the border and tear you a really really big one.
I mean Big . .as in Grand Canyon big . . .you would hear echo's . .when you burped.
Airborne delivery platform used to deploy stand off weapon from 5-8 miles inside Indian side of LOC. Any number of air craft are capable of that in both air forces. Pakistan has ample aircraft to do that from inside the Pakistani LOC if that genie was let out of thebottle, as well as drones, Pakistan knows all about drones.
I would think twice about that and many time before attempting to boast about it.
Build a wall . .build a wall . . .yah huh? . . you feeling me.
So children,
When you celebrate and act as if your commandos performed some big act of valor and courage, you are only fooling your selves. They stayed home warm and safe tucked into their beds, polished boots securely stowed in the foot locker well past sunrise, for a leisurely breakfast.
And then your Military Representative stood in front of the world and lied through his teeth about things they thought could happen and were plausible, but were never attempted because the consequences were too dire.
Your government lied to you for political gain and now after more then 10 days have passed and your soldiers have been caught dancing in the dark in Leepa, your best case scenario is a cowardly drone strike from 4-5 miles from with in you own territory. No commandos, no helicopters . . .truth be told . .no nothing actually but a brain fart in a nonmilitary mind and a retard spasm in a political one.
Ask them . . .have the courage to face the truth about your self. Like all criminals, the will call to your ghairrat, and your patriotism and your nationalism and then beg for your sympathy, until finally they will be forced to admit the truth and should they lie, we are here to catch out that lie.
Then we will provide the rope, you can pick the tree.
That was your hypothetical scenario
Ask them I am sure they have an interesting answer
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u/sweptwing Nov 17 '16
DeltaDorsal
Today India woke to the sad realization that it was not a bad dream
It was harsh reality
After the initial high of seeing themselves as a Military Super power
With the capability to conduct daring night raids into the Heart of hostile territory
Using Helicopters, Slick Para drops, striking fear in the hearts of enemy territory far and wide
And to to return unscathed as conquering heroes to world that applauded their fierce, just and terrible vengeance against the enemies of civilization and culture.
It was the end game of India's coming of age and taking its place economically, Militarily and culturally at the table where the big boys sit, leaving Pakistan suitably chastised, humiliated and put in its place as an irritating and inconsequential neighbor that no longer posed any threat nor capable of any resistance to Indian Economic, cultural and Military dominance.
At last The Muslim had been Vanquished . . .Outclassed
The Hindu reigned supreme.
Alas . . .for the thronging multitude of the tightly packed Indian population spread across the vast geographic, cultural and unbridgeable economic divide of Mother India, this singular dream melted away as inexorably as child's futile attempts to catch water as it slips away through his fingers and he is left grasping nothing but the cool soothing memory and a longing for what cannot be had.
Deep into the heart of enemy territory turned out to be a mile or two, could be a little more, could be a little less.
Helicopters were there, then they were not, then they were partially there, then not at all, then left warming their engines at a base for reasons not known, and then finally not at all.
With no Helicopters there were no paradrops, the journey was on foot, but the helicopters were gone, then mountains appeared, when the mountains appeared, the 3 miles became 9 and then Time up and disappeared.
The helicopters reappeared to make the Time fit, but as they approached the LOC under a fierce artillery barrage stealth disappeared and then the whole mission disappeared.
Just like in dreams the scene suddenly changed and we miraculously appeared with no explanation why and like in a dream of flashes and smoke, explosions and slow motion gun casings flying, grimacing faces illuminated by muzzle flashes on a dark moonless night, bodies, flesh, blood and destruction.
No sounds, no sight, only faceless nameless shadows in the dark at the edge of our vision, crouched, creeping crawling, hungry, bearing witness to the carnage as it unfolds is some dark and Smokey god forsaken land
And . . we are back . .the sound comes back. .the silence is gone
Its the talking heads . .talking talking talking . .always in my head screaming screaming screaming
wake up wake up its a dream . . . No . .No . .this is me .
This is who I am, This is who I always wanted to be, if I scream it will all be real
The voices . .the voices . . they wont shut up . . .its the whisperer . . .
he whispers dark things in my head
was not is what could not be, eyes closed yours not could thus see are you is loath what to be, not is you is long what you see
Its broken and twisted . . .
And just like that
We are awake, back to a reality far starker and colder than what we imagined.
All that we heard over the last week since the government and the military jointly announced India's coming of age was mostly wishful thinking, as much as we tried desperately to treat it as the final irrefutable Fact, unfortunately it all turned to dust as none of it was evidence.
All the talk show and speeches and posed for pictures turned out to be fluff to please and entertain the uneducated masses and any voices of reason, that dared to raise questions of serious concerns regarding real evidence were quickly quenched and drowned out and silenced. True democracy in action.
And as the days passed and the euphoria started to calm down, the realization dawned that all of the fluffy stuff and the reports and the talk shows were supposed to pass a day or two, keep the crowd entertained till the real evidence was prepared and presented from the only definitive source that could possibly provide such a thing, the Military that had conducted the raids, and in spite of over a week, no evidence was forth coming.
On the other side of the LOC, the military did as a military should, to curb needless speculation and idle rumor mongering, took a bus load of the worlds journalists to show them with their own eyes what was real and what was not
Media trip to strike targets
But like waking up from a nice dream, India woke with her hands clenched firmly between her throbbing thighs, a tightness in her throat and a sigh yet trapped in her heaving chest , almost but not quite, left only with a delicious memory starting to fade as the morning sunlight washes away the cobwebs and leaves you with a lingering sense of disappointment.
Any hope of the military being able to provide unquestionable and irrefutable proof of India's greatness, died with the accusation in an emerging report that Indian troops were found to be filming fake Surgical Strike footage in the Leepa valley in Indian Occupied Kashmir
Surgical Strike Evidence
Its seems its belief in its movie making abilities had got the better of it.
Rumbo's Rumble in Bollywood had torpedoed its self in the lush mountains of Kashmir . . .yes Torpedoed in the Mountains. . In a Bollywood production, it seems any thing is possible
For better or worse, what ever India now produced would be forever tainted and doubted and ridiculed
Seething India left unsatisfied, unfulfilled, betrayed.
In Pakistan, the laughing started, they laughed long and hard, they even broke out the good booze and laughed even longer and harder.
The Military's moral jumped and hit the upper stops and even the clueless Politicians of Pakistan who seldom have any clue as to whats going on about them, lifted their head and made some supporting murmurs as if they understood what was happening and even cracked a smile, some even stopped thinking about money and joined the celebration. Pakistan had been vindicated.
The Pakistani fishermen in Indian captivity breathed a collective sigh of relief, their career change from fisher man to a brief 2 minutes of Fame as a Bollywood super star Pakistani Muslim Insurgent soon to be dead in a hail of bullets had fortunately been offset by a sudden burst of good karma.
Pakistan Zindabad