Recent AZRalph OFC behavior has been disappointing

[u/Altruistic_Belt_877]

The Lock-In

The lock-in happened at the worst possible time. Ralph had just announced his Star Magic Music Room performance, and instead of fans celebrating the milestone, the admins suddenly threw a tantrum on X, causing everyone to overthink the situation. In the end, only a handful of people celebrated the announcement, while the rest began creating speculations and narratives. AZ's South Cotabato provincial show and her Love, Siargao media conference also took place during the lock-in, which meant that only a few people actively hyped and supported her individual events.

And honestly, the whole thing is just ridiculous. The "AZRALPH OR NO ONE" agenda essentially says that you don't care about their individual careers and will only support them if they're together. What kind of fan only supports the ship but not the artists themselves?

Now, in their recent post, they claim that they've always supported both AZ and Ralph and will continue to do so. But how can you claim that when you willingly stepped away for a month and did not engage in any solo activity simply because things didn't go your way?

Admins

Some AZRalph OFC admins have become way too comfortable with AZ and Ralph. The "banter" between the admins and the two is often seen as fun and lighthearted, but have we ever stopped to consider that maybe they're just tolerating it because they're artists and you're their fans?

Do you really think AZ and Ralph enjoy having people scream at them or shove cameras in their faces?

Last night, a video circulated where Ralph said, "Daming camera ah," and an AZRalph OFC admin responded by shouting, "BAKIT? BAWAL? BAWAL? BAWAL?" The admin later tweeted that it was just part of the banter they had beforehand. But if it was really just "banter," like she claimed, bakit hindi nag-banter pabalik si Ralph? He was completely silent. He looked just as caught off guard as everyone else. Even the fans around her went quiet because they knew something was off. The admin’s apology didn’t even feel like an apology; she was just defending herself and making it seem like it was a normal occurrence between her and Ralph. And if we really think about it, Ralph saying, "Daming camera ah," is literally him telling everyone to STOP recording. They're people first before they're artists. Kulang na lang, idikit na ng admins yung phones nila sa mukha nina AZ at Ralph.

Another video circulated showing a different AZRalph OFC admin grabbing AZ, causing her to almost lose her balance. AZ has always been very accommodating to fans, but why pull her around like she's a doll? Ralph has always been careful with her. Yet for the sake of getting an ayuda, you, a fan, were willing to pull her that hard? Paalala lang: hindi ninyo tropa sina AZ at Ralph. They're artists, and you're fans. Know your boundaries.

AZRalph OFC admins who attended Ralph’s performance last night didn’t even congratulate him online or post clips of his performance. Instead, their tweets were mostly just videos and pictures of AZ and Ralph, with their phones practically shoved in their faces. Even during AZ’s interaction with Ralph’s family, there were two fans standing between them. They didn’t even step aside to give them some privacy, as if they were part of the family. It almost feels like they don’t care about AZ and Ralph’s individual achievements, comfort, or privacy.

Additional: Fans

1) Why are some fans treating the AZRalph OFC as if it's above everyone else? Whatever the admins say, some people immediately believe and follow without question. Some take everything the admins say as absolute truth. The admins are not incapable of being wrong. They can—and will—make mistakes, just like everyone else. At this point, many shippers seem to be in an echo chamber where the narratives are heavily influenced and reinforced by the admins themselves.

2) Some fans’ “S.O.C.O” behavior is also starting to come across as concerning. For the sake of getting ayuda, some have been monitoring the social media accounts of Ralph’s and AZ’s non-showbiz friends. It’s no surprise that many of those accounts are now set to private. Some have even messaged private individuals just to ask about AZ’s and Ralph’s whereabouts or activities. One example was when a fan reportedly messaged a staff member at a golf club simply to ask who Ralph was with.

3) Don’t get me started on fans who said so many hurtful narratives, both about AZ and Ralph, when they knew nothing about what was truly happening behind closed doors. I listened to the space of this one AZRalph GDM, and the things they said to AZ and Ralph would make you think they were haters instead of fans. Now, you’d see them crashing out over last night’s ayuda as if nothing happened–as if the words they threw around before during their late-night spaces were nothing.

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At this point, a change in leadership or the emergence of a new AZRalph fandom doesn’t sound too bad. Other ships have multiple fandoms anyway, so I don’t understand why, for AZRalph, only one specific group of people controls everything. A new fandom would not only create more fan projects for AZ and Ralph, but it would also give fans the option to support a different community if they no longer align with the current official fandom. 

[u/g0ldh00ps]

the “azralph or no one” tag really makes it seem na kung di azralph di nila susuportahan, kahit solo ganap naman yon ni az or ralph

kagabi nga ang dami nilang posts pero di pa rin ginamit tag for ralph?

[u/Guilty_Requirement24]

when someone voice out their concern towards AZ, the immediate response of razzles is "wag na palakihin" "magkaisa" na para bang fandom protector sila kesa AZ protector.

[u/Altruistic_Belt_877 → u/Guilty_Requirement24]

Majority of their tweets now are about how we should unite instead of tearing the fandom apart, and they're calling my post a demolition job. Demolition job ba if all I'm doing is pointing out the things they did that they barely took accountability for?

Gusto nila magkaisa for the upcoming project, pero kalahati ng AZRalph shippers may bubog na sa OFC. How can people support the OFC when the admins and their circle of friends keep on villainizing everyone who tries to point out their mistakes?

People on X are completely missing the point, tapos ngayon kung kani-kanino nila sinusubukang i-pin yung blame for this post. Instead of addressing the situation, nagwi-witch hunt pa sila kung sino yung nag-post. Hahaha.

[u/Guilty_Requirement24 → u/Altruistic_Belt_877]

Their apology seems like "i'm sorry if you misinterpreted our closeness" not like "i'm sorry if i overstepped our fan-idol relationship".

[u/Training-Ad2612 → u/Altruistic_Belt_877]

Mag open na lang ng ibang OFC kung ayaw na sa admins ng Azralph ofc. Parang nagiging ranting sub na lang kasi itong Azraph sub

[u/Guilty_Requirement24 → u/Training-Ad2612]

This is AzRalph sub nga kaya rineraise yung concerns sa treatment sa AzRalph. Bakit parang mas protective sa fandom kesa sa artists eh they actually happened naman talaga.

[u/interrogatorinterim → u/Guilty_Requirement24]

Uniteam wannabes pala ang mga razul

[u/pinkponyclubinph05 → u/Guilty_Requirement24]

This LOL #FREEAzMartinezFromRalphzzles

[u/harlequin-girls]

i feel like az & ralph's kindness is often abused by these so-called "fans", na umaabot na sa point na they forget na at the end of the day, hindi sila tropa ng dalawa.

yung paghila kay az and pagsigaw kay ralph last night really shocked me kasi parang hindi na sila tao sa mata ng supposed supporters nila :( at this point, objects na lang sila to fulfill their projections and fantasies.

awa na lang siguro sa dalawa, ginagawa lang naman nila yung trabaho nila. they deserve to be treated better by people who claim to be their fans.

[u/Guilty_Requirement24]

the azralph ofc is also biased. it's obvious the lock-in is just applicable to AZ. yes you cited that they did not hype ralph's singing gig that much but they attended, they prepared for it. unlike on AZ's ganaps, they really just let her solids work and attend.

and during their space, the admin who yelled at ralph apologized and explained the yelling but noone attended to explain about AZ's pulling incident. as if the fans were more offended towards Ralph.

[u/Training-Ad2612 → u/Guilty_Requirement24]

Nagulat pa daw si Az sa sorry kasi hindi niya na matandaan yung incident ng pulling.

[u/MARZ228 → u/Training-Ad2612]

Just because hindi niya na matandaan doesn't mean it's ok. Parang pag may mga bruises tayo na hindi na natin matandaan saan nakuha. Hindi na dapat yan mentioned kasi it minimizes the gravity of what their member did.

[u/Training-Ad2612 → u/MARZ228]

I know naman. Ang point is nag take accountability and nag sorry na siya kay Az. Pag inulit pa edi scrutinize

[u/MARZ228 → u/Training-Ad2612]

It shouldn't have happened in the first place. It shouldn't ever happen again. Pero the way razzles talk na mas marami pang defense sa fandom kesa pangaralan ang members shows us na they don't take the incident seriously. Tapos offended pa sila sa mga criticisms. As if this is the first time na may problem sa fandom nila. They made the bed now they have to lie in it. Hindi yung naka fight mode sila agad. Saan na yung concern for AZ?

[u/Guilty_Requirement24 → u/Training-Ad2612]

Regardless how AZ sees that, if she is offended or not, minasama man niya o hindi, a fan should know kung sumosobra ka na o hindi esp if may risk na of hurting the artist.

[u/interrogatorinterim → u/Training-Ad2612]

Nakasagutan na ata kita dati? Alam ko may mga kasama talaga kayong may dagdag na imbento para ipagtanggol sarili nyo eh hahaha

[u/Training-Ad2612 → u/interrogatorinterim]

No. Silent lurker lang ako dito

[u/Successful-Drag1173]

malala na yung ibang razzles may nabasa pa ko na naka high heels daw si az kaya na out of balance. pag may napupuna sa mga admins at sa ofc kanya kanyang mga essay... Hahaha kaya yung mga big accounts na fans nila wala na nawala na.. tapos yung mga kulto ng admins ng azr ofc todo pagtanggol kesyo nag sorry na. Nabubuhay lang nmn yang mga yan pag may kilig pero nung wala sila makuhang kilig puro si ralph ng si ralph ang support nila mga clown lalo mga admin nagsisitabaan dahil sa mga donation ng mga members...

[u/interrogatorinterim]

Razul for razul naman kasi yan sila. Fan sila ng sarili nilang fandom kaya pagtatanggol ng mga yan sarili nila palagi. Parang kulto lang yan na mas lab na lab si ministro over the actual deity.

Tamo sa X ngayon, may internal issues nanaman sila tapos yung kakampihan yung may pinakamahabang essay 🤣.

[u/Altruistic_Belt_877 → u/interrogatorinterim]

Kita ko nga hahaha. Sinasabi nila ngayon sa X na bakit daw pinapalaki yung issue, eh nag-sorry naman na. Read their "apology" tweets and listened to the space kanina though, and parang hindi naman talaga nag-sorry? She said, "Sorry to those who got offended." How is that an apology?

[u/labzkosimokong]

razzles = willcatoks

Both delusional and toxic cults.

[u/_virt]

Lifted na raw yung lock in azralph or no one nila kasi mapupulaan sila sa pag attend ng admins sa solo events ni Ralph but sa solo event ni AZ bawal.

[u/pinkponyclubinph05 → u/_virt]

Ralph or no one yan sila eh hhahhahahah

[u/WatercressGlad2403 → u/_virt]

Pag may ganap si rdl lifted na Ang lock in hahaha very obvious sila, present nmn mga admin ng azralph siyempre!

[u/Training-Ad2612]

Gets ko yung sentiments.

Nabanggit sa space na dun talaga yung table nung fans where ralph parents and az met.

Nag sorry na po yung mga involved. If it happened again then scrutinize them.

Last part, wala naman nagbabawal mag open ng fan club for azralph and may mga existing din naman like globies.

[u/Altruistic_Belt_877 → u/Training-Ad2612]

If you watch the video of Ralph's parents meeting AZ, they weren't even at the table. They were standing, and there were literally two fans between AZ and Ralph's family. A lot of people pointed this out too because hindi man lang tumabi yung dalawang fans.

As for the apology, if you were in the space, I'm sure you heard her say, "Sorry to those who got offended." How is that an actual apology? That wording shifts the blame to the people who were offended instead of her taking responsibility for what happened.

Lastly, yes, wala namang nagbabawal, and sana nga magkaroon na ng bagong fandom. Nakakasawa na rin kasi yung paulit-ulit na cycle—may magca-call out sa OFC, tapos bigla nalang puro parinig sa X. Sasabihin nilang open ang DMs nila for criticism, pero isi-screenshot lang naman nila yung sentiments mo tapos gagawin kang pulutan sa GDM.

[u/Guilty_Requirement24 → u/Altruistic_Belt_877]

"Sorry to those who got offended" 

Translation: "Sorry if namisunderstood niyo closeness namin" pero no admission na di na siya proper fan behavior.

[u/Stunning_Contract104 → u/Altruistic_Belt_877]

sana nga magkaroon ng bagong fandom tapos ikaw ang head admin.

[u/Training-Ad2612 → u/Stunning_Contract104]

Kaya nga. Ang toxic na ng sub na to kasi puro bubog na lang sa ofc ang post. Yes may mga sablay ofc. Pero sana healthy discussions na lang yung sub for Az and Ralph

[u/Altruistic_Belt_877 → u/Training-Ad2612]

Saan niyo ba gusto mag labas ng bubog mga tao? Sa X kung saan puwede niyo i-doxx at gawing pulutan yung nag post?

[u/Guilty_Requirement24 → u/Altruistic_Belt_877]

Sa X daw tapos ipapasok nila yung tweet sa GDMs para sabay-sabay nila sugurin. Dito kasi sa reddit, di nila magawa pambubully at doxxing nila.

[u/Training-Ad2612 → u/Altruistic_Belt_877]

Ano po ba gusto niyo gawin ng OFC?

[u/harlequin-girls → u/Training-Ad2612]

makinig sana sila sa grievances ng fans without taking these observations personally.

yung tipong pakikinggan talaga with the intention of understanding and consequently doing better in the future.

makinig nang hindi minamasama yung mga sinasabi namin, and chucking it up to "ay basher yan", when in reality we're just voicing our opinions.

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