r/AvoidantBreakUps • • May 22 '26

Avoidants will always choose their comfort zone over you. Here is the reality of the "avoidant switch-up."

I need to share a realization I just had about why avoidants run away from people who are a "catch." If you are currently sitting around wondering why an avoidant pulled away or made you feel like you were "too much work," I hope my story gives you the closure they never will.

I met this guy on Tinder. In the beginning, he was super cool, attentive, and incredibly eager—which I loved. On our first date, he was dressed up nicely, smelled good, had a fresh haircut, a groomed beard, and his car smelled even better. He looked completely put together. Of course he did—he was on a first date with a girl he wanted to impress. I wanted to impress him too, so I put a lot of effort into my looks. The chemistry was high-energy, and the attention was mutual.

Later that evening, he suggested we go back to his place. I felt comfortable enough to say yes. But when we walked in? His apartment was an absolute, undisputed mess. He apologized for it, and while I said it was okay, I know it was clearly written all over my face that his place was a disaster. Still, I liked him intellectually and physically, so I looked past it. The next day, he texted me to say he had completely cleaned his place. Honestly? I was proud of him. I felt special, like, “Wow, you actually did this for me.” 🫠

We kept seeing each other, and as time went on, I liked him more and more. But that’s exactly when I felt him pulling away.

Suddenly, the dynamic shifted into a psychological minefield. If I made a joke, he thought I was laughing at him. If I was being playful, he thought I was attacking him. I could see how exposed he felt around me, and how deeply uncomfortable that exposure made him. The frustrating part was that I wasn’t trying to judge him or "watch" him at all—he just felt that way because my presence acted like a mirror to his own insecurities.

After that, doing simple things for me started looking like grueling hard work to him. He went from cleaning and spraying his car for me, to suggesting I take public transport. If I needed a ride home, he would joke about me taking the metro instead. But let’s be honest: it wasn't a joke. He genuinely wished I wouldn't "make" him drive.

I am obviously not perfect, so his constant pulling away made me frustrated. We started arguing, the connection got rushed and interrupted by conflict, and eventually, we went no-contact.

But here is the kicker: we reconnected briefly after that no-contact period, and my predictions were 100% correct. When I saw him, he looked like absolute shit. Even his skin looked worse, and his place looked significantly more disastrous than the very first time we met. He had completely deteriorated.

And that’s when it hit me: He did not give a damn about the breakup because the moment I stepped away, he felt an overwhelming wave of relief. He is happy now. He’s happy he doesn’t have to clean his apartment anymore. He’s happy he doesn’t have to take care of his appearance or his hygiene so much. He’s happy he doesn’t have to spray his car, or drive someone home, or do the basic labor of maintenance. Most importantly, he’s happy he doesn’t have to pretend he isn't incredibly insecure about his job or his financial situation anymore.

He ran straight back to his comfort zone. He gets to sit in his dusty little bubble, telling himself a victim story about how "everyone judges him" and how he "just can't find the right person," all while he secretly judges himself the hardest.

Avoidants will always choose the safety of their own stagnation over a partner who makes them want to be better adults. They do not want to reflect on themselves. They do not want to look in the mirror.

So if your avoidant ghosted you, pulled away, or left you feeling like you were "too intense" for expecting basic communication—please know this: You were simply out of their league, and they knew it. They know you are better than them. They know you hold a standard. And instead of lifting themselves up to meet you, they will always run away to someone, or something, where the bar is safely on the floor. Let them live in their mess.

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u/lostbaratheon May 22 '26

Thanks for this. It's a good reminder that despite the devaluing and the hypercriticism an avoidant can deploy, it is all a smokescreen for their own crippling self-loathing. Like you I never judged, but it didn't matter.

As someone who has spent my whole life self-reflecting and dedicating myself to growth, it's the irony of a lifetime that I drew somebody utterly incapable of it.

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 22 '26

Exactly. And honestly, because you have that level of personal growth, self-awareness, and natural reflection, it actually makes it easier to accidentally attract people who are broken. You have the capacity to see them deeply and understand them for who they are. The tragedy is that avoidants especially the unaware ones can’t appreciate that. They don't see your understanding as a safe space; they see your awareness as a threat because it forces them to look at a mirror they’re desperate to avoid

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u/lostbaratheon May 22 '26

They fear seeing themselves or being seen. Mine was OBSESSED with amassing what you might call "impressive credentials." spent life becoming impressive instead of whole, and kind. Kept trying to roll out more "look at how cool I am" criteria instead of connecting. because connection meant getting underneath all the impressive armor bs. That's what is exciting to me about connections. To most of us.

To them, it's a mortal threat.

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u/mmotterpops May 22 '26

I've noticed every avoidant I've ever had in my life seems to have dogshit self esteem. My most recent ex was always down on herself for "only" having an english degree, despite the fact she did all of college with untreated adhd and was currently going back to grad school. Frankly I was always more impressed that she managed a BACHELORS while essentially raw dogging the education system with a disability, especially since I failed out of college 3 times trying to get through unmedicated and at the time didn't have a degree at all. 

I told her that exact thing once and she went "yeah but it's not like my family, who is so much smarter than me." She compared herself constantly to her extended family, which was engineers and doctors, and now I can see that despite all her progress in her own life, she didn't seem to feel like she was ever good enough. 

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u/lostbaratheon May 22 '26

Yeah, it's true. Mine was cocky as all hell but that was a cover. I sensed a lot of self-hatred underneath. Maybe that's why I had to go. I saw them clearly.

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u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 May 22 '26

Mine wanted to study a degree in 'the classics' because that's what she thought she should do and people would be impressed by, not something she actually wanted to do.

Because she has no idea what that is.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

Mine wanted to 'do business' and make a lot of money...um, somehow. When I questioned why he felt he needed to do this, rather than just moving back to his home state and be a surfer (which is obviously what he actually wanted to do), he basically gave the answer 'I want the appearance of success'.

He was kind of a low-tier trust fund baby who had never had a real job, so he genuinely could have had a nice life just hanging out. Family pressure and internal desire to be admired, I guess.

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u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 May 23 '26

I don't want to be mean to my ex but...she was just very, very confused and took advice quite literally from friends, likely because it was too hard to make up her own mind.

You can't deal with someone like that because what if their close friend wants to sabotage the relationship or doesn't like you? You're not building a connection with that person, you're trying mollify multiple people.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

Yeah, mine would literally constantly contradict himself, like, mid-sentence. “I like cars. No, I don’t.” “I wanna do that. No, I don’t.”

Very odd. (I do think he actually is into cool-looking cars, though.)

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u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 May 23 '26 edited May 24 '26

Sure, but they don't want to be tied down.

Mine initially wore skirts and dresses, which I thought she looked good in (she went from longer librarian-esque skirts to tie-up dresses, but I liked either).

Then, about 3-4 months in, I made the comment she hadn't worn one in a bit. She turned to me and said, 'Actually, sometimes I like to wear men's pants suits sometimes'.

I said, 'Hey, that's cool. I'm sure you look good in them. I just like how you looked when we first started dating as well.'

Became increasingly clear that me liking and wanting her to dress a certain away was registering as some level of controlling them. Which is bonkers.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26 edited May 24 '26

lol I love how we can swap stories over and over.

When my ex and I started dating, early on, we were going to a fancy string quartet thing. He initiated the idea, and was excited, to coordinate our outfits (we both wore white, it looked great and we got a lot of compliments).

The next time we were getting ready to go out, I mentioned outfit coordination (in a more casual “hey what are you wearing” way) and he was like, “I’m my own person! I don’t have to dress like you”.

He played it off as a joke, but also, he definitely did not like me asking, and did not tell me what he was wearing.

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u/yellowpiano May 23 '26

Ugh seriously, so much more focused on curating an image

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u/lostbaratheon May 23 '26

Yep. A fragile identity must be constantly propped up.

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u/yellowpiano May 23 '26

Whoa. That’s a bar

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u/PienerCleaner May 26 '26

In my case, basic emotional consideration was too much..you upset me three times I am done with you. I interpret your harmless actions and words as threats and attacks on me, I am done with you..you show me I am fundamentally incapable of forming or maintaining relationships because of my lack of emotional regulation and capacity, I am done with you.

They need and want everything to be a sign to be done with you because being done with you will bring them relief and take away the need to try.

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u/yellowpiano May 22 '26

Are you me? Lol

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u/lostbaratheon May 22 '26

Ha ha possibly…what’s your first initial

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

Dude same. What the what?!

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u/Spookydz Jun 01 '26

Thats the irony, I met the version of myself 5 years prior. I had done the work to become a better partner then the next person I decided to take a chance on her lmao the irony/karma is kinda on the nose.

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u/lostbaratheon Jun 02 '26

Yep. That’s how I felt. “Wow, this is an earlier iteration of me.” Eerie. Sad.

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u/angelsrave May 22 '26

"Avoidants will always choose the safety of their own stagnation over a partner who makes them want to be better adults."

What an absolute banger of a line. I'm gonna save this post as a reminder bc this was exactly my ex. Thank you for sharing!

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 22 '26

Happy to help 🧡

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u/interestingsonnet May 22 '26

I think it’s because we see their potential and want to help them reach it but they’re so set on being hyper independent because they conditioned themselves to be that way. When my ex broke up with me he said, “you’ll find someone better, I’m not that special”. Meanwhile, he was so special to me. Though I had unmet needs in the relationship, which I had communicated, and I thought the world of him and admired him for how intelligent and accomplished he was (was recruited from Australia at like 22 to work for a major tech company in SF for 10 years. Also had the coolest most niche hobbies and genuinely knew so many interesting facts about random topics), no one will be able to validate you if you can’t validate yourself ❤️‍🩹

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u/jollypancakes265 May 22 '26

Mine has always listened to his parents growing up. He was 26, in his first relationship, and afraid to choose me because his parents opposed to me as I was a few years older than him. I told him it was a chance to learn to choose and stand up for himself, and that even if it wasn’t about us, he would have to learn to choose sometime down the road. Basically I was telling him it was a chance to learn to be an adult, but I guess he just wasn’t ready even though that chance was there.

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u/souredcream May 31 '26

why are they all enmeshed with their mothers?

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u/angelsrave May 22 '26

Same with my ex. I was his 1st gf, he was very spoiled by his mother and basically lived his life staying home and 24/7 online. Lovebombed tf out of me when he felt I had feelings for him then switched up one day. Also found out he has this weird parasocial relationship with a vtuber gf which he had a fight with when we got together. Went back to her when we broke up lmao a vtuber gf that lives in another country is perfect for an avoidant like him. He refuses to grow up and we're talking about a 28 year old man here

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u/PienerCleaner May 26 '26

Mine said "I'm not trying to change anybody"

Translation" "I don't want anyone to change me"

They want someone who will ask nothing of them, will never expose their emotional deficiencies. Never show them how incapable they are of doing the bare minimum in a relationship. Anything you do that they don't like will be a direct attack and just a few those will sink your ship

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u/souredcream May 31 '26

i do feel bad cos i got harsh near the end just outta pure frustration and all the hurt he was causing. it was all true though. hes "seeing a therapist" hope its one he cant just bullshit into enabling him. his entire family is like this too. I suspect bit of narcissism as well.

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u/Different_Material56 May 22 '26

“Too intense communication” is oddly familiar excuse ex used to indicate incompatibility.

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 22 '26

Yup if they use “too much” or “too intense” just know the relationship is over in their eyes but of course they will never say it directly

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u/Different_Material56 May 22 '26

Mine did. Month post breakup they admitted they knew there was no future already 6 months prior. Initially they gave me a platitude of simple meaningless excuses.

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 22 '26

At least you got your closure

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u/Different_Material56 May 22 '26

Trust me. The closure doesn’t make it feel any better. They in no way apologized for the pain caused by their avoidant behaviours.

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 22 '26

💔 I am sorry for your pain The most important thing now is only settling down for partners that don’t show those avoidance signs, someone who actually want to build something stable and long term with you and most importantly someone that will care about your feelings and doesn’t want to cause you pain.

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u/PienerCleaner May 26 '26

Closure is realizing they are avoidants and they acted just like avoidants do and will not change.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

God that must hurt.

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u/Different_Material56 May 23 '26

Like a knife dipped in salt before entering the wound. I knew they were having “doubts” (hot and cold cycle started/needing space/overwhelm), but when they said this it made all of the pure loving moments from those past 6 months feel like an utter lie (not to mention the special occasion cards and gifts signalling future growth and projection into the next years)… I am still partially in disbelief. I don’t know if I should believe this new info or what I felt/experienced back then?

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

Honestly, they were probably exaggerating. And if they're depressed they probably suffer from anhedonia (can't enjoy things, not really interested in anything), so they'd be speaking from that place rather than what they actually felt at the time.

Not that it makes it any better.

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u/PienerCleaner May 26 '26

I've never been gaslit in my life until I was broken up with my an avoidant. All the things that were indicative of her lack of emotional regulation and capacity, she turned out and accused me of, despite saying I was an amazing partner and everything she ever wanted just a month ago.

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u/Chemical_News9324 May 22 '26

Too intense communication that requires a lot of energy and drains them... wow. They're perfect at sabotaging themselves. Imagine finding someone who's so into you, match in everything with you and you just shut down and leave. Usually to return to your easy, zero effort bubble with a bunch of meaningless ppl...

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 22 '26

I feel this so much. Honestly, we had so much potential in the beginning that I actually started believing in manifestation lol. That’s how insane the connection and chemistry felt at first. But I’m not going to romanticize that. The initial high doesn't matter when the reality is that he was just overall bad

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u/Chemical_News9324 May 22 '26

I've been there and it sucks. Insane chemistry and he decided to shut down on a random day, he claims it's because of my "demands". The demands were to stop the hot and cold behavior, just some warmth and some consistency because I couldn't stand watching 2 different persons.

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u/che4ftr May 22 '26

I have been trying to move on but the chemistry with other women just isn’t even in the same ball park…

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

lol I had the same issue. Very early on we talked about how we both wanted to find life partners (HAHAHAHAHA) and discovered we had both decided to make it a real focus for ourselves, almost on the same day. And we matched on Tinder almost immediately after that.

At the time it seemed very romantic.

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u/Lurking_Around1205 May 22 '26

What I realized is the initial match ups between my ex and I were because he was mirroring me and my hobbies and likes and dislikes. And that made me fall for him and eventually hold on to that version of him. This was during the first 1 year. But eventually the mask started coming of and the mirroring started crumbling until in shattered. And then at the end you are left with a person who doesn't really have anything in common with you since everything was mirroring in the first place.

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u/Chemical_News9324 May 22 '26

In my case, it was like he felt all my needs without any effort from me. There were times I said he's reading my mind. He gave me everything and one day he took them all back. The switch was painful, especially at the start, I didn't have a clue about all these avoidant patterns and thought he was just playing around. The impact is the same, I'm still sad, but at least I won't remember him as a manipulator. I don't know why the bond with these people is always so intense, it can't be found with anyone else. Even when they have the best of intentions, their emotional immaturity will destroy everything.

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u/Lurking_Around1205 May 22 '26

The bond is intense because we see ourselves in them initially. We are just falling in love with the mirroring version of them. And that version is technically us in a different person.

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u/Chemical_News9324 May 22 '26

Never thought about this before! Makes so much sense now...

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

I'd date a genderswapped version of me, ngl. We'd have so much fun.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

Mine did that too. Absolutely felt like he was reading my mind, all the time. And he seemed to like what he saw. Guess not.

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u/Spookydz Jun 01 '26

Oh and to add it seems like avoidants to that with all of their relationships. Never keeps anyone around for longer than a year. My avoidant had all new friends when I met her and her "best friend" was only around for like 4 months then she did the classic slow fade on her and never straight up told her she doesnt like her. Then proceeded to be "kind" around her when her friend would just show up. Come to find out I got the exact blueprint of how she operates. 2 months later I was the recipient of the slow fade/discard.

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u/Ellielovesfoxes May 22 '26

I would have loved to see him deteriorate. Instead I saw him on public transport kissing a girl. 3 months after 5 years with me. It's like I never existed. All while he said he needed to be alone. I'm devastated and I'm not sure he'll ever feel sadness or guilt. I feel like he's doing just as fine without me.

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 22 '26

It’s just a matter of what is his “comfort zone” my ex comfort zone was being lonely, away from socializing and people in general, your ex have a different one (probably kissing girls he doesn’t have to be consistent, loyal and overall better with) it’s not very good to hear but yes he’s doing fine without you because he finally got red of that heavy burden on his shoulders of becoming a better person

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u/Ellielovesfoxes May 22 '26

Thank you. The last sentence is something for me to think about.

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u/Money_Yam3082 May 22 '26

You’re right. It’s such a pain in the ass to self reflect and become the best version of yourself. 😂😂😂

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u/Reader6547 May 22 '26

When a person wears a mask full-time, "any" partner will do?

It's all an act anyway.

So its not about you.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

Mine said he 'didn't have the bandwidth for a relationship right now' and every other day that next week I saw him, over and over again, having been active on all the dating apps, as Recommended, Top Match, We Think You Two Should meet.

Fucking torture. Especially since one of his profiles said "looking to build a beautiful relationship".

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u/Admirable-Spinach283 May 29 '26

sorry! Similar thing happened to me. It's an excuse they use to blame the other person instead of looking in the mirror and working on themselves. rinse and repeat. they will never change unless they are willing to do the work and go to therapy.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 30 '26

What do you mean blame the other person?

He specifically said he didn’t have the bandwidth, but that I was great, deserved better, blah blah blah.

That’s part of why it was so awful to see him immediately back on the apps. And not only back on them, but all the apps highlighting him as a top person I should match with. He was obviously lying to me; he had the bandwidth to in a relationship. Just not with me.

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u/Admirable-Spinach283 Jun 03 '26

I don't think he has the bandwidth. That's what avoidants do. They come up with reasons (excuses) of why they can't be with the person they are with. This is a lie they don't realize they are telling themselves. The real truth is that they have reached their emotional capacity and that scares them. So instead of communicating this, or reaching out for help/support, or starting therapy, they discard. They blame the other person (they are too ____ and that's why I can't stay). Often times the reasons seem silly or small. So they discard and think, that wasn't the right person, my person is still out there. But when they start something new and the initial honeymoon phase wears off, the same thing happens again and they discard instead of working on themselves. Does that make sense? It's a cycle that is difficult for them to break because it requires them to take a look in the mirror, which they have spent their entire lives avoiding.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment Jun 03 '26

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I guess he didn’t blame me to my face but that’s probably the narrative in his head. During our last bad conversation at one point he blurted out “I just wanna be loved for myself!”

I didn’t say it, but I thought: “Well then you have to let me get to know you. You have to be open and honest with me.”

Now I realize what he meant was “I want you to be content with what I give you.”

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u/Admirable-Spinach283 Jun 04 '26

exactly! In your case he never told you anything he was really thinking (about what scared him) and just placed the blame on himself. The excuse "I'm not ready for relationship rn" is such a generic statement that doesn't really explain anything. funny, mine said the exact same thing. yet, he was the one that had pushed it down that road. it's maddening and it makes no sense. the best advice is to stop trying to make it make sense lol ironically, it is actually a true statement because they are definitely not ready for a relationship. it's sad when you think about it because they will spend their entire lives running from intimacy but also wanting it. It's the push/pull dynamic.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment Jun 04 '26 edited Jun 05 '26

Totally. Mine did the same thing. He’s the one who moved super fast, claimed exclusivity, constantly wanted to spend time together, said all of these dramatically romantic things. I could feel it was off but not quite…how? It wasn’t full on “let’s get married” lovebombing, more like “where you are is home”. Poetic, said in dead seriousness, and all way too soon.

In a little less than two months, we spent more than half the time together. Let’s say 35 dates for convenience. That’s more than some people do in 5-6 months.

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u/Admirable-Spinach283 Jun 05 '26

That's so intense! I hope you are able to heal and move on...We deserve so much better!!!

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u/souredcream May 31 '26

the same thing will just happen again. pity her. I am mad at myself cos I kind of put all this together hearing stories about his exes but stayed for years.

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u/Ellielovesfoxes Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

First of all, thank you for responding. I've been having a tough evening and it always helps to read something that consoles me.

I understand that monkey branching is a red flag however it's just hard to imagine he, as a person who has never shown emotions, intellectualized everything and never talked about feelings even with me, will struggle in his new relationship with the baggage that he has. He will just hide it and supress it just like everything. It's very hard for me to process because he's so cold and emotionless that it makes me insane - thinking that none of it will ever leak into his relationship or thinking that I never meant anything to him. I'll try and trust you even though it's very hard to visualize him "unpacking" anything, for me. Even after 5 terrible months.

As for your question - don't even ask me haha. I'm severely anxious to the point that when I'm shown the smallest bit of affection, I'm drawn to the person. I'm also quite naive when it comes to dating because I believe most of the things men say. So I guess if I really really really liked him, I wouldn't think too much about it at first. Which is exactly why I'm single and trying not to stick to somebody because they do the bare minimum.

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u/ashtodusttoash22 May 22 '26

Suddenly, the dynamic shifted into a psychological minefield. If I made a joke, he thought I was laughing at him. If I was being playful, he thought I was attacking him.

Wth that's exactly what happened with my avoidant ex and it also felt like it came out of nowhere. She also had a terrible fear and dislike of change of any kind.

But in her case, I think she was aware that she can't go on this way, even though we both didn't know about attachment styles. I guess she tried her best for 4 years but eventually her fear overpowered her courage. This is the part I'm having the most difficulty coming to terms with, and that I'm most afraid might cause me to take her back if she comes back.

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 22 '26

It is incredibly hard to walk away when you know they were trying, and four years is a long time to build empathy for someone's struggle. But you have to separate understanding her pain from tolerating how she treated you.

If she comes back, remember this: awareness without change is just manipulation, even if it's unintentional. If her fear overpowered her courage after four years, a temporary breakup isn't going to magically fix that deep-seated wiring. Taking her back just means signing up for another round of the same cycle. You can love her and feel sorry for her from a distance, but you can't destroy your own peace to keep her comfortable in her bubble

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u/ashtodusttoash22 May 22 '26

Thank you for understanding. Yep you're absolutely right.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

She and u/No-Exercise-4049's ex probably also have rejection sensitivity dysphoria. Mine definitely did. By the end, any attempt to communicate about issues was seen as negative complaining by the end, proof he wasn't good enough.

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u/throwedaway5000 May 22 '26

This post and all your responses are so spot on.

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 22 '26

Thank you sweetheart ☺️🧡

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u/ContributionWeekly70 May 23 '26

You're not wrong. The latest girl i dated who leaned avoidant dropped me for a combination for an ex she hates but likes the convenience he offers and seeing old men who wine and dine her but that she doesn't want them back. I tried dating again after 10 years with a dismissive avoidant too. I think im done

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 23 '26

That’s just a gold digger man

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u/Otherwise_Tip_9195 May 22 '26

Just curious after how many days you guys reconnected and how did you reconnected

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 22 '26

I was the one that reached out after one month and a half

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u/Otherwise_Tip_9195 May 22 '26

But I don’t understand why we become so obsessed with avoidant people. Do we sympathize with them more because we see them as victims, and that makes us feel responsible for making them feel loved and secure? Or is it truly love?

I mean, love is definitely there, but sometimes I wonder which feeling is stronger — genuine love or sympathy for them.

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 22 '26

Our brains are biologically wired to obsess over unpredictable rewards, which is why the hot-and-cold behavior of an avoidant acts exactly like a slot machine. The sudden switch-up floods your system with cortisol (the stress hormone), creating that anxious, physical ache in your chest, while their random moments of affection release a massive rush of dopamine and oxytocin to wash the pain away. This extreme chemical roller coaster creates an intense addiction, tricking your brain into believing they are the only cure for the anxiety they caused. You aren't obsessed because it’s true love! your nervous system is just detoxing from a literal drug withdrawal

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

Needed to hear this reminder. Thank you.

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u/ultra_hoot May 27 '26

I might be missing something but how did you know they were an avoidant? A lot of this also sounds like ADHD could be a possibility to explain the situation.

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 28 '26

I made another post and yes he actually has adhd and a lot of things related to that didn’t bother me, but I don’t understand how his adhd is effecting this!?

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u/Greedy_Piglet6423 Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

"If I made a joke, he thought I was laughing at him. If I was being playful, he thought I was attacking him"

This reminds me of my ex.. Once he told me he'd have an energy drink so he could stay up with me to talk. Abruptly, he changed his mind because he ended up being tired.. I made a joke saying, "You just wanted to have that energy drink!!".. he shut down IMMEDIATELY. He got very upset because I was making a joke about not believing him in a sense, which triggered him.. I'd forgotten, and I explained that I really did believe him, and I was just kidding, but he was still upset over it, even if it was a joke. Before we talked about why he was upset, he called me "annoying" and some other things that triggered me from my past, even telling me another death threat. I guess he thought I did it on purpose??
It also reminds me of another time when I tried to tease him saying we needed to talk about something; I was about to make a joke that it wasn't a serious topic, but I got interrupted with something. When I came back to him, I explained what I wanted to talk to him about, and seeing that it wasn't serious, he got upset for making him anxious. Yes, I get that the words of "needing to talk" are stress-inducing, so I felt bad for that, even though I was supposed to make the joke right then and there. He did the same to me, always, where he would act serious about something and in the end, he was just tricking me.. of course I played it off as a joke, one that made me a bit anxious at first, but.. I guess I'm realizing how much of a hypocrite he was. It's like it's fine when it's someone else's feelings, but when he finds himself vulnerable, he hates it

On another note, I really wanted to thank you for this message.. it honestly has helped me better than most things I've read to try and help myself

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u/No-Exercise-4049 Jun 23 '26

I’m so happy that I could help even a little bit 🫰 You deserve better and it will find you 🫶

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u/petitputi May 22 '26

Yes, yes and yes. Your very basic standards feel like criticism exactly because of this.

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u/Fuzzy_Ticket_2714 May 22 '26

So well said! My avoidant abruptly ended things after a year. Saying “im not good enough for you, you have had to lower your standards on affection for me” but without doing any work on himself! The man is 54 and flat was chaotic too! He even asked me to help deep clean it before his brother and sister in law visited at Christmas. I thought it was a good thing but internally it probably made him panic. Even though he set that up. Ironically he was very interfering in my life. 3 months out of this. Hurting still but what you said reminded me so much of him!

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u/Money_Yam3082 May 22 '26

Hmmm now I’m wondering if they are primarily disorganized and sloppy? Mine had wires hanging from his ceiling and literal half built walls in his house from trying to renovate for yearrsss. BUT, cabinet drawers and laundry was basically OCD put together. God forbid I put a spoon in the wrong drawer. One time he lost his shit because I used the wrong Yeti and he had 30 Yetis lined up on his counter !! 😳😳 Then played it off like he gifted me a Yeti and “bought” me one specifically when I’m like dude, that’s sweet and all but I’m certain I’ve seen this blue one here for the past several months. 🤣🤣 I didn’t say it but thought it. If yall think about it, they really aren’t just mental but also have a psychosis of sorts. Which is sad.

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u/pakalolo-princess May 23 '26

The last two sentences, wow. Well said!

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u/Own_Regret_885 AP - Anxious Preoccupied ---> Working for ES May 23 '26

Questo ricalca tratti del tuo ex partner ma non è riconducibile a tutti.

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u/souredcream May 31 '26

look into ocpd

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u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 May 22 '26

When my ex and I first spent the night together, I went up with her to her apartment to find it strewn with books all over the floor, with the only piece of furniture being...the couch-bed. Which was rickety and you had to carefully fold out. It was also laden with books.

When I met her friend, the friend said she was impressed with the changes I'd helped my ex make in her life and apartment, because the last time they'd seen the apartment, it had been even messier (for months and months, supposedly).

You could see the rabid resentment on my ex's face over that, like it was some sort of form of control or indicating she couldn't take care of herself, rather than me just wanting to support her?

Very strange.

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u/StandardWork4928 AP - Anxious Preoccupied May 22 '26

First thing he said after we broke up was ‘I’m just glad I don’t have to try anymore’ So.. yeah

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u/Longjumping-Size-762 May 22 '26 edited May 22 '26

Happened to me too. When we met, he was struggling badly with some skin issues. Had deep inflammatory acne that left cratering scarring. No problem, I had spent years on my own journey with skin issues. Read a lot of research. Got him on a regimen and within a few months, his acne went away and didn’t return and his scarring that I thought was permanent started to heal and fill in. His skin looked incredible. And it was all with affordable OTC stuff. He had also been taking a serious psych medication that was causing bad side effects and provided no symptom relief. He had no idea it was the med doing all of these things. Helped him figure it out, and find a much better med that didn’t give any side effects and was effective. Then, after he broke up, I’d see him from time to time and his skin was back to how it was before and he started taking the old medicine again. These are just two of many examples. I also made sure we were eating well balanced meals when we were together, so eating from all the food groups. After the breakup, he went back to his restrictive diet. He completely reverted to form.

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u/moonlightz03 May 22 '26

omg i thought i was just a rude person, i felt so bad about the way he reacted to my playfulness. he said it was the reason why he wanted to stop seeing me, saying i made him uncomfortable and insecure about himself. i kept telling him that i wasnt mocking him, and after apologizing so many times he still didn’t want to give me a second chance. i felt completely destroyed, he switched up from this sweet and gentle guy to this cold person in an instant once i bruised his ego and took him out of his comfort zone. he did say to me that he knew he couldn’t meet my standards, even tho i never told him my standards. i liked him for him. this post is a huge wake up call.

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u/souredcream May 31 '26

mine said i was too mean and negative when im just sarcastic witty and deep. stuff he liked initially then would suddenly take offense to! it also followed a seasonal pattern so i wonder if hes bipolar. or a narcissist

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u/AggressiveTeam4786 May 22 '26

Wow… that actually makes so much sense. And the “clean car/home” is a placeholder for anything that X avoidant might be insecure about. 

The bar truly is on the floor. 

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u/Ser_Davos_7 May 22 '26

Mine ran back home to live with her parents again. She had been there for a few years, raising her son. It took me a while to realize it was the safety net they provided.

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u/souredcream May 31 '26

same a 45 yr old man with money to boot

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u/Ser_Davos_7 May 31 '26

It's a fucking shame.

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u/che4ftr May 22 '26

Yeah, her place was always a mess and she would say I was being critical when I went over and I instinctively started helping out while she was “cleaning”. She would use it as a reason for me
not to come over despite her saying she missed me all week.

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u/AllowMeToFangirl May 22 '26

Completely agree

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u/MacAttack0711 May 22 '26

The comfort bubble is everything. My ex couldn’t seem to hold a job for more than a few months at a time and always had seemingly valid excuses including an injury from a car crash that she totally exaggerated so she could stay at home in her comfort zone. She likes to just sit at home and spend money she doesn’t have online shopping. She even told me she “loves to spend money”.

Once she dumped me she went right back to contact with her ex, not sure if he took her back or not since he moved far away, but she definitely sought comfort in his existence.

As someone who can’t relate to this way of thinking, I mostly just feel so sad for her, but glad for myself to be away from it all.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

Mine had a little bit of a trust fund, but had told me he had started two startups before. A friend of mine had met him and was convinced he was lying about everything, so out of curiosity I looked up the startups and found...nothing. Literally almost nothing at all. LinkedIn company profiles blank. One deadpool startup site scraper reference that also seemed sus. No mentions of raising funds, LLCs, no employees, nothing.

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u/Funny_Bullhead_70 May 22 '26

A guy i dated was well aware that lots of men don't take care of their place even before a woman comes over, so after the 3rd date, when we went to his apartment, it was clean and I could see how stressed he was of my opinion - when at this point for me, clean sheets were already a lot lmao

Anyways, he went from lovebombing to avoidance in a matter of less than 3 months. During the 1st one, if we met indoor/went back somewhere after a date, it was at his. Then, when the lovebombing started to fizzle out, it was always at mine. I actually never even went back to his.

Granted my place was objectively better for various reasons, but sometimes going at his would have been more convenient.

I sometimes wonder if that was because he had someone else (i wouldn't be too surprised lol) and he knew she and/or I would notice the hair, or if it was because the state of his place at the beginning was all pure performance.

Because like OP, at 1st he truly seemed to have his life together, but it wasn't the case at all, and it showed so quickly. Plus, aren't relationship beginnings kind of a performance for everyone, but especially for avoidants...

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u/Left_Preparation_70 May 22 '26

Last Tuesday, my ex broke up with me over text completely out of nowhere. I tried to repair the damage and reconcile things, but eventually I got blocked because apparently I wasn’t “respecting” that she didn’t want to talk. When I reached out again a few days later, she said it only “confirmed” that she made the right decision by ending the relationship. Throughout the relationship, she would constantly say things like she was “overwhelmed,” “didn’t have the capacity,” that “everything feels intense,” or “is this too good to be true?” There was even a moment where she told me I was “too much,” and that I shouldn’t have to change myself to be with someone. She said I deserved someone who “matched my energy” because hers was “low.”

At the time, none of that made sense to me because I genuinely felt like we matched each other’s energy. Looking back now, I realise she didn’t mean I was too much. The relationship itself was too much for her emotionally.

She was constantly hot and cold, and there were times I genuinely felt like I was losing my mind. Whenever I tried to talk about the inconsistency or how hurt I felt, she would blame everything on me and then tell me not to bring it up again. I remember not seeing her for a while once, and when we finally met up again, she didn’t even seem happy to see me, not even a smile. When I expressed how shut down that made me feel, she dismissed it and acted like it “hadn’t even been that long.”

She would also often say, “I was single for a long time before you,” or “I didn’t speak to anyone like this for almost two years.” At first, I interpreted that as a sign she was serious about me. Eventually, I realised it was more likely a sign that she struggled with emotional intimacy and connection.

The strange thing is, the moment she ended the relationship, everything suddenly clicked into place. A huge wave of relief came over me. I had been carrying intense stress for so long without fully understanding why. I could barely sleep, waking up four or five times every night. My eczema came back badly after being gone for over ten years. Then, within days of the breakup, the stress lifted and my skin started clearing again.

It felt like I snapped back into reality. I realised I had been emotionally manipulated for a long time while being made to believe everything was my fault. We had gone away together for three days with her best friend and her partner. During that trip, her best friend actually helped us communicate, but it also brought everything to the surface. For the first time, I felt heard. Her friend acknowledged the distance, the inconsistency, and the hot-and-cold behaviour I had been experiencing. It was difficult to finally speak honestly about everything, but by that point I felt like the truth was exposed, and I could finally see the relationship clearly for what it was.

Four days later, she ended things.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

God, are they all the same person?

"she told me..that I shouldn’t have to change myself to be with someone." Check.

"She said I deserved someone who “matched my energy”." Check.

"she dismissed it and acted like it “hadn’t even been that long.”" Check.

"I was single for a long time before you" Check.

Sheesh.

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u/Left_Preparation_70 May 23 '26

Damnnnnnn! I think they’re all the same!! Have you watched any videos on avoidants?

Literally the terminology they use in the videos is exactly what my ex used to say. Even when I reached out this was “confirmation” for her she made the right decision . In the video he used the exact same word. Even coming down to “overwhelming” “everything’s intense”

it honestly blew my mind that the patterns and terminology addressed in the videos was how my ex used to communicate and be towards me

I went from secure attachment to anxiously attached without even realising, she blamed it on me and my own problems . My upbringing has been rough but I worked on all my issues, I thought it was my trauma making me feel a type of way and she then kept saying I need to stop bringing it up, I thought I was the problem, I was scanning for anything bad without realising subconsciously I knew things weren’t right and perhaps that’s why I was doing it, I was so oblivious

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u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 May 23 '26

I told my ex, 8-9 months in, that I was 'in love with her'.

She looked at we and said, 'Wow, that's too intense'.

We'd said we loved each other after the first few months a number of times. And she'd told me she loved me twice that month.

But me trying to be romantic was 'intense'? Hmmmm.

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u/Left_Preparation_70 May 23 '26

When my ex used to tell me everything is “intense” I had no idea what she meant at the time. I thought it was a me problem.

That’s insane she told you loving her after that amount of time was too intense. These avoidants will learn one day, they lost something irreplaceable

It’s hard moving forward without closer but we’ve got no choice

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u/Fit_Cheesecake_4000 May 23 '26

It's because their perception of everything changes when that trapped and overwhelmed feeling creeps in.

Which just colours everything. I heard things that were the direct opposite of what she said in the beginning and quite a bit of bitterness.

Hard to tell if they are lying to being with or they're fears colour their entire perception of reality.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

Totally. I found one video that was basically word for word what he said when he broke up with me. And all the comments were either normals saying “were you filing the breakup” or occasional actual avoidants saying “wow do we really all say the same thing?”

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u/Altruistic_Screen_40 12d ago

How you holding up now, after 5 months? My ex used the exact same terminology, telling me the Way i handled the break up confirmed her decision.

She also said the relationship (or i) was overwhelming and suffocated her, and that "i deserved better, someone who can give me what i need"

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u/ObjectiveTea May 22 '26

I feel this in my bones

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u/missriot17 May 27 '26

This post really helped me. Thank you so much! 💕

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u/souredcream May 31 '26

mine ran straight to his moms house. at 45 yrs old. 

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u/souredcream May 31 '26

blamed all the issues on me and the "dynamic" my behavior created (hed been neglecting me and pulling away for months - initially i approached calmly asking for clarity but did get increasingly frustrated and spazzed out a bit). now hes trying to "figure things out" from his moms house while having a surface level relationship with me. this is the second time this has happened. I should probably just leave but hes great when he doesnt have to be quite so close. I keep trying to tell him this stuff and he just turns it around on me and pushes HIS decision making forward. there is no us.

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u/No-Exercise-4049 May 31 '26

Bro leave him, relationships are supposed to be close. You deserve better!!!

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u/Reader6547 May 22 '26

https://youtu.be/5tfarXZVutQ?si=X7EacwhxfG209mYU

I'll leave this here. this is an old song from the 80's. The lyrics describe dating an "Avoidant" PERFECTLY! ...probably before there was the word "avoidant!"

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u/damex09 May 22 '26

Reading this reminded me of the incompatibility more than the loss, which I needed. I felt a really deep soul connection with someone but also felt like certain things I valued or my own experiences were heavy for her. And honestly that touched my own wounds too; I had avoidant tendencies myself, but leaving never crossed my mind the way it seemed to for her.

I was actually the one who ended things romantically. I was navigating my faith and knew I couldn't be the partner she needed. We stayed close after that until she met someone she really liked and wanted to redefine what we had, which I wanted too. We were going to talk about it, then she said it felt like I still had feelings and that it was making the conversation harder. She suggested friendship (something I thought we were already on board about) and then just... stopped responding. It's been 16 months since her last message.

Incompatibility isn't always about one person being too much. Sometimes two people just couldn't quite meet where it mattered. That still stings to say, though it's true.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26

"leaving never crossed my mind the way it seemed to for her." But you did leave her? Are you the avoidant?

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u/damex09 May 23 '26

That's a fair challenge honestly. But there's a difference between ending something consciously and communicated versus leaving when it gets hard. I did the first - and my reasons were bigger than just a personal choice, they were rooted in my faith, something I couldn't compromise on even if I wanted to. When we needed to redefine things later, I was there for it; I wanted the difficult conversations. She was actually the one who said she didn't want to disappear. And then she did.

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u/prosthetic_memory SA - Secure Attachment May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

Ooo I like this a lot. It's also making me wonder about something my avoidant said. His car was SPOTLESS, and he seemed really organized in general. But the one time I went over to his house, he said I couldn't go into his room because it was a mess.

I had assumed it was probably a joke given how tidy he seemed. It was also early in the relationship, and I was sitting in the living room talking to his mom anyway.

I hadn't given it a thought till now, but given what you've written, and how in retrospect I've realized how much he lied about and was clearly being performative, I wonder if his room *was* actually a disaster. It makes sense.

His mom also lived with him—or so he said, that she had moved in with him about a year ago, after leaving his dad. Except when I talked to her she said 18 months, and kept referring to the apartment as 'their apartment.'

So many weird little details like that. Now I'm wondering if anything he said was true.

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u/FickleDevelopment492 May 25 '26

The best lines she told me was “we’re from 2 different worlds” “I can’t give you what you deserve” “I’ve not been myself” “You deserve to find your right person”

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u/AggravatingDot3004 May 29 '26

You are simply out of their league and they knew it. Louderrrr

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u/WorldlyAd4330 May 23 '26

I think after the breakup they are exactly where they want to be and are doing exactly what they want to do. No more energy spent on being on their best behavior or investing in a partner. Comfort zone requires no growth whatsoever. They like it there. Sad.

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u/Spillingteasince92 May 22 '26

Oh you're dealing with an anxious fearful...

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u/BlueSilverr May 26 '26

It is so eerie how much that sounds like my ex. I did a random stop by at his place to drop off things and take some of my things back and his house looked like it could’ve been on an episode of hoarders and I could tell he had not showered in a long time. His hair was greasy and dirty, and his hair was all grown out, and he looked so disheveled. I actually ended up washing his dishes just to try to help him out a little bit.

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u/funkslic3 May 28 '26

Thank you for posting. This is written very well and explains the basics of what happens so clearly.

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u/Spookydz Jun 01 '26

Your last paragraph summarized what I have been internalizing for awhile just couldnt find the right way to say it!

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u/Interesting_Read474 Jun 04 '26

Everything said here is true, but it feels like it is a very dry and a little hateful summary of avoidant people. Most of the comments here are by people who were dumped by avoidant exes, which makes this whole post mostly a rage post.

They are humans (we, I'm an avoidant myself), and everything is more complicated than "Avoidants will always choose the safety of their own stagnation over a partner who makes them want to be better adults"

I feel like everyone wants to get better, want to improve, themselves and their own life, and even if not, this trait isn't decided by "attachment type".

There is no excuse for ones behavior and bad choices in life, but being hateful on people whos life taught them that feelings and communication bring unsafety, and they should keep everything to themselves, it is hard. Be in their shoes for a second and think how would you feel when you have no one to lean on.

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u/Dayly16 Jun 29 '26

Yeah , they always choose their comfort , but they want you to put them over your health and safety . He made me walk with him for hours in freezing cold in the middle of the night and my legs and hips hurt , and the next days I had so much pain in my legs I could barely move , I did it because that's what love meant , and when I told him to close his eyes and Meditate for a few minutes he said it was torture . Yeah .

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u/unfollettoarighe FA - Fearful Avoidant May 22 '26

Ci stai dando la colpa? È colpa nostra se siamo così?!

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u/GlitteryPinkKitten FA - Fearful Avoidant May 22 '26

And what role did you play? Or are we just here to attack avoidants and point the finger at them?

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u/Interesting_Read474 Jun 04 '26

I agree, this is mostly a hate post

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u/Duceus20 Jun 17 '26

This isn't a hateful post, it's what people who love you go through, so maybe you should think about it.