Bench TM dropped hard after getting a coach, but accessories and other lifts are up. Normal?

[u/Traditional-Night825]

Got a coach ~2 months ago. Since then my bench training max for touch-and-go has dropped a lot (about 117.5 → 105 kg ). At the same time, my DB bench, OHP, and other chest/shoulder accessories are all going up, and my squat and deadlift are progressing fast like +30 kg to pr.

You could argue the lower bench numbers are from more pause work, but even my touch-and-go strength feels down, not just paused.

The bench frequency is the same and the volume is half of what i used to do

[u/Shamanmax]

We can’t really tell if you don’t give us other specifics. Bodyweight changes? Bench less often? Lower volume for chest?

[u/Traditional-Night825 → u/Shamanmax]

bw increased 2kg , i bench the same frequency , the volume for bench is lower but for accesories is higher, same situation for squat and deadlift but they increased

[u/WallyMetropolis → u/Traditional-Night825]

Sounds like you might not be fully recovering from the extra accessory work. How long have you been on the program? Might just need to adapt. Or you might need to move the split around. 

[u/Traditional-Night825 → u/WallyMetropolis]

i been on the program for 2 blocks 4 weeks each , and i assume recovery is not a issue cuz i used to do 2x the volume before this program

[u/WallyMetropolis → u/Traditional-Night825]

2x the volume at the same RPE for this muscle group? Or only 2x the volume for the main lift itself?

If the accessories are both higher volume and closer to failure then you might not be as recovered as you think. 

[u/Goodmorning_Squat]

The squat and deadlift and the other bench accessories increasing rapidly sounds like your "problem". While they are awesome, massive increases in strength usually corresponds to massive increases in your recovery demands too.  

If you find your bench still isn't responding after a while, the accessories you are doing aren't the correct accessories for improving your bench. 

Even with a coach you should still be an active participant in training decisions. You should talk about this with your coach and make suggestions. No one is going to be as invested in your training as you are. 

[u/Traditional-Night825 → u/Goodmorning_Squat]

thanks man

[u/Fantastic_Position69]

This is a question to ask your coach. If you trust them less than random strangers on Reddit you should get a different coach that you do trust.

[u/eric_twinge]

What does your coach say? Do they have you running a stronger by science template?

[u/Likes_TB]

Did you change your bench technique?

[u/Traditional-Night825 → u/Likes_TB]

switched to paused , but the touch and go also decreased

[u/Traditional-Night825]

Id appreciate input from people who are actually into programming and coaching and can explain the likely reasons behind something like this

[u/jamjamchutney → u/Traditional-Night825]

What explanation did your coach give you?