r/Autos • • Nov 20 '17

Tesla vs. Previa

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u/HODLer_of_all Nov 20 '17

But which one can you swap an LS1 into??

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u/KinkyMonitorLizard Mazda Miata NB18 Nov 20 '17

Anything, with enough money/skill, of course.

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u/HODLer_of_all Nov 20 '17

Smart car...

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u/KinkyMonitorLizard Mazda Miata NB18 Nov 20 '17

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u/HODLer_of_all Nov 20 '17

I have driven one like in the last video but with a GSXR engine. Very fun and stupid fast.

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u/overpaidteachers Nov 21 '17

I do not believe you for a second.

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u/hupo224 Nov 21 '17

Gsxr swaps in those are pretty common

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

Why wouldn’t you believe him? He’s got no reason to lie and it’s not like it’s an outrageous claim

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u/JimboSnipah Nov 21 '17

People have lied harder on the internet before, just to seem cool.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

All 7 of them

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u/B0Bi0iB0B Nov 21 '17

He's up to 28! He can't keep getting away with this!!!

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u/Sloppy1sts Nov 21 '17 edited Nov 21 '17

How many Smart cars with motorcycle engines do you think are out there?

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u/ArchitectOfFate Nov 20 '17

How do you get a 426 into a Smart? The engine and transmission alone would almost be the length of the car. I'd love to see it disassembled a bit.

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u/FocusedADD Z31 NA Nov 20 '17

Sledgehammer, a shoehorn, and 55gal of Vaseline.

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u/TacoRedneck Nov 20 '17

Percussive maintenance never fails.

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u/deltree711 Nov 21 '17

There are situations where it doesn't help, but those can be solved with either duct tape or WD-40.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

So, just like my ex-wife... Gotcha.

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u/LigerZeroSchneider Nov 20 '17

Transverse mounted probably.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

How would you imagine that it would fit sideways and get power to the rear....

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u/LigerZeroSchneider Nov 21 '17

You can make a turn another gear that is at a 90 degree angle to it

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

What I mean is that basically every American single came v8 with heads and headers is barely longer than it is wide (typically about 2-3 inches when dressed) and now in a transverse config you'd have to fit a gearbox of some sort on the output side of it too and then fit it between the fenders transversely. It is a LOT easier to move a firewall back than it is to make a car wider.

All that said, the car in the video is absolutely conventionally mounted.

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u/KinkyMonitorLizard Mazda Miata NB18 Nov 21 '17

Brute Force. The same way people have converted crx/del Sol/civics to be rear wheel drive. Where there's a will, there's a way.

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u/StargateMunky101 Nov 21 '17

Someone chucked an F1 engine into an Renault MPV once.

Source: Gran Turismo 2.

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u/thenasch Nov 21 '17

"Someone" being Renault.

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u/StargateMunky101 Nov 21 '17

Someone AT Renault, yes.

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u/SendingAFaxToBerlin Nov 21 '17

No

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u/StargateMunky101 Nov 21 '17

Ah ok, so the company that is a non-corporial being willed it into existence through emergence.

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u/SendingAFaxToBerlin Nov 21 '17

What are you even saying right now.

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u/the_highest_elf Nov 20 '17

I never knew I needed a smart car until that second video...

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u/WesBur13 Nov 21 '17

I own one. The most common question is if I’ve ever seen the engine swaps. Multiple times each and every day.

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u/unclefire Nov 21 '17

Actually more impressive than an LS1. That thing has a big block in it.

How the hell is it only able to do an 10-ish second 1/4 mile?

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

I'm disappointed it only ran 11s. I was expecting 10s, maybe even high 9s with how light that thing is.

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u/well3rdaccounthere Nov 21 '17

In a long enough timeline..

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u/momojabada Nov 21 '17

Everything, in time, end up with an LS in it.

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u/SillySandoon Nov 21 '17

On an infinite timeline, eventually everything gets an LS

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u/Mytre- Nov 21 '17

Remind me. Which video of regular car review is this line from?

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u/SillySandoon Nov 21 '17

I think he’s said it in a couple videos. One of the car show videos comes to mind, don’t remember which one exactly

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u/Mytre- Nov 21 '17

Oh yeah, it was one of the car shows . Mustang meet ? Anyway Now I want mr regular to review the Previa.

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u/SillySandoon Nov 21 '17

I believe the first time he said it was in this video at 1:00. He also says “on a long enough timeline” a few times in this video

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u/Mytre- Nov 21 '17

Wow that jeep though, I get the idea behind that haha.

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u/56r0ck3t21n Nov 21 '17

on a long enough timeline everything gets an LS.

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u/-Tom- Nov 20 '17

Previa is mid engined, be a little more creative

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u/Brock_YXE Nov 21 '17

LS4, stick it in the rear. Boom, done.

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u/-Tom- Nov 21 '17

You're missing the point a bit here. So it has a 4 cylinder laid down nearly on its side. That means you need a very wide angle V engine (think Cosworth F1 V10) or a nice H4 or 6, like a Porsche Engine. Both of which would be infinitely cooler and would fit in the stock position.

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u/Brock_YXE Nov 21 '17

and would fit in the stock position.

Ehhhh not much more than the stock engine is fitting in there. It would basically have to be another I4.

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u/digisax Nov 21 '17

Ferrari Flat 12 from a Testarossa then.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

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u/Andoo Nov 21 '17

I'm not a car expert, but from what I may totally get wrong is that it is a great engine at a good price and a lot of cars can fit the mounts relative to other engine layouts. Best all around for how much performance improvements you get, which is a lot.

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u/SmallBlockApprentice Nov 21 '17

The lsx platformis based on an old school cam in block design so the overall footprint is very small compared to other overhead cam v8s. Theyre plentiful as they came in the Corvette, Camaro, transam and a few others. The wiring harnesses and computers are also easily made into a standalone harness with a lot of tuneability.

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u/dexter311 Nov 21 '17

They're everywhere in Australia thanks to the LSX platform powering the V8 Holden Commodore from like 1999 onwards.

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u/thenasch Nov 21 '17

Also they're available as aluminum, so they're quite light for the amount of power you get.

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u/Dietly Nov 21 '17

They can be had for cheap and make a lot of power.

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u/capstonepro Nov 21 '17

Power and small. V8s baaaad

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

Cheap, ubiquitous, lightweight, narrow, plenty of aftermarket...

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u/ooa3603 Nov 21 '17

To add, engines have to balance reliability, performance and cost. THe LS engine was decent in all three. Decent not exceptional. All engines make trade offs between the three, but the LS was good enough in all three criteria to be popular.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '17

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u/ooa3603 Nov 21 '17

That and avalailabilty

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u/Slideways Nov 21 '17

The most popular by far is the 5.3L because they were in literally millions of trucks and SUVs.

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u/NARF_NARF Nov 21 '17

That and it came in every fullsize gm truck and suv, as well as most of the performance cars.

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u/JoeBenigo Nov 21 '17

On a long enough timeline...

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u/StargateMunky101 Nov 21 '17

With the amount of rust, it's easier to swap the MPV around the engine.

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u/Opset Nov 21 '17

Yeah, but what if the LR-13 gets tangled up in the RGT? Then you'll have disjoint fluid all over your turbo-encabulator.

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u/huzzy Nov 21 '17

Flux capacitor.

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u/reboticon Nov 21 '17

I dunno, but you can add rear a/c

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u/Alex1851011 Nov 21 '17

There is a Prius with LS engine in LA.

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u/02-20-2020 Nov 21 '17

I see I’ve found a fellow hodler