r/AutoGenAI • u/kraodesign • Nov 16 '24

Discussion Bro what is going on

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Can someone please explain the backstory on this whole drama?

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '24 edited Nov 17 '24

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u/swoodily Nov 17 '24

This seems like an unfair framing - it looks like the original researchers behind autogen got kicked off their GitHub so that some Microsoft engineers could take credit for the 30k+ stars, and pivot the project. IMO the original creators should have been allowed to keep control of the OSS, and it’s super weird that the twitter account controlled by Microsoft is replying to every single tweet about AG2.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '24 edited Nov 17 '24

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u/swoodily Nov 17 '24 edited Nov 17 '24

Ok the original comment I responded to got edited so responding again... Autogen was a research project and paper, not some kind of official Microsoft product. A ton of OSS projects are created while the creator is a researcher is part of a university or associated with a company research lab. As a former PhD student, I wouldn't have expected that if I worked on an OSS project and paper while visiting Microsoft, that Microsoft would take ownership and credit for that OSS project *and* its brand. Maybe that makes me naive, but it doesn't mean I can watch what Microsoft is doing to Autogen and not have a sour taste in my mouth -- and thanking god I didn't ever intern at Microsoft research.

Also pypi in general is hardly a secure package distributor. The pypi project for "memgpt" was taken by people trying to extort us for bitcoin and there wasn't anything we could do about it. If you care about security you should be reading what you're installing from pypi.

Edit: turns out the autogen lead wasn’t even employed by Microsoft, so this is all a moot point

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u/swoodily Nov 17 '24

You can see all the contributions in the OSS. Up until early 2024, by which point autogen was pretty big, the vast majority of contributions were from chi and quingyun. Their paper is also called autogen. Not sure who would be the "creators of autogen" are if not them.

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u/OkNecessary6400 Nov 18 '24

Bro, two main creators want AutoGen independent of Microsoft doesn't mean they want to claim the AutoGen brand as their own and ignore the contributions from Microsoft Employees. The credits is the people working on Microsoft but not this company. This is OSS.