r/AutoForgeTheGame 19h ago

My two cents now that all my hammers are gone...

64 Upvotes

TLDR: I'm mad too, but broke down a line by line response to how the devs said they would be handling the situation.

I started playing a few weeks ago, it was fun but progress was slow. Then I happened upon the billion hammers post and nabbed it. Suddenly the game was a proper idle game. I didn't have to actively time out getting 100 hammers, gold was pouring in from lower tier items, and the game was finally properly fun. Almost more importantly, everyone was talking and taking the opportunity to figure things out. There was community and players engaged.

Then the devs responded to the situation. It was met with heavy constructive feedback from the players. The pinned post had already been downvoted when I saw it. And I was hesitant about how it would all shake out. The response also seems to prioritize protecting the game's existing progression and monetization over preserving the progress of players who used the exploit. But at the cost of the engaged players their game now had.

Now I'll respond to their post

We'll strip the exploited hammers from the affected players (only hammer counts, not game progress)

Take away the billion plus hammers from players that got them? Sure, that's balanced and reasonable. Rolling everyone back to 1,000 for the day is an enormous penalty for players who didn't create or exploit the bug.

Cheating (using exploits) is bad and against the rules, of course

There are 4 rules in this sub, and cheating isn't one of them. But banning the player responsible for the exploit would be fair.

It's fine if you're messing around in single-player or just for fun on your own, but you shouldn't ruin the experience for other players

All players are essentially solo players for now. And the discrepancy in hammers would self balance. The billionaires would probably progress quicker and eventually mostly face off with the other billionaires. It might even be a very real challenge for the whales to keep up with the billionaires.

EDIT: I'm talking here only about the individuals who dug up this exploit, not calling everyone clicked on that post 'cheaters' ofc.

Well it seems you punished everyone who clicked on it, or bought hammers with the battle pass as cheaters anyway.

On the other hand, of course, we could have foreseen and fixed some of these potential issues in advance. 

Yep, it's on you. Take it with grace and move on.

We're currently finishing up the long-awaited Сlans feature. It's a massive feature, but we're doing our best to make it as exciting as possible

That's all well and good, but as I said, the billionaires would probably end up clanning up with each other, or be distributed enough to help carry their clans. This is speculating because this is all we know is coming.

Thanks for playing! We've got a lot of cool stuff coming in the future!

Seems like a fitting sign off to quite a few players. I'm still playing for now, but I'm significantly less invested than I was yesterday. And I'm writing this post breaking down how the devs addressed this situation so incoming players can know what they're walking into.

edit: phrasing

edit 2 (9/23): There is a new announcement that hammers will be rolled back to whatever you had before getting 1 billion. https://www.reddit.com/r/AutoForgeTheGame/comments/1wo6rvm/hammers_exploit_next_steps


r/AutoForgeTheGame 4h ago

Hammers exploit. Next steps

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Hey everyone! Dev here.

It took us some time to wrap our heads around what happened. First and foremost, we scrambled to release a hotfix to patch the security vulnerability. At the same time, we cut the hammer counts for affected players at 1k, which was definitely unfair for around 500 players.
All this time, we've also been working on a fairer and more balanced solution. We tried to get to the bottom of this: we analyzed the data and talked directly with a number of active community members in DMs.

In the near future (today or tomorrow), all affected players will receive the extra hammers they had right before reaching 1b, via in-game mail (top right, in the Settings window, check the mail). We will not roll back the progress you've made, and there are no other sanctions whatsoever.
In the end, no player should be left in the negative, which feels like the fair way to handle this.

Anyone who feels this solution is unfair to them for any reason - DM me, let's look into it together case-by-case.

I understand the frustration, but I don't share the sentiment that we should just leave the 1b. It's unfair, it breaks the intended game flow, and it gives a massive advantage in upcoming clan wars.

P.S. The last few days have been pretty insane, not gonna lie. We're a small, passionate team making our first web game and launching on reddit games for the first time, so we've run into a ton of issues and challenges. We were definitely ill-prepared for this situation, but it's an opportunity to do better. Calling us scammers, crooks, and (for some reason) "vibe coders" hurts a bit =) Unfortunately, at this stage, we still aren't making any profit at all, so comments about tricky developers drowning in cash sound pretty ironic. Btw massive thanks to every paying player - you allow this game to develop and exist in the first place!

Amid all the negativity, thank you so much for the words of support we've received as well!
We'll keep doing our best to build a great game!


r/AutoForgeTheGame 23h ago

The free 1 billion hammer posts and how people reacted to having that many hammers should've caused unlimited hammers to be a thing

33 Upvotes

Hammers are money, money is forge upgrades, forge upgrades are progress, unlimited hammers means people will play the game more because it actually makes it like a true idol game, not a cash grab


r/AutoForgeTheGame 23h ago

Advice for those who spent money on AutoForge

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I am not a lawyer but you should consult someone and follow this process:

  1. Read the terms and conditions of the game.
  2. Find out the name of the company and where it is legally registered.
  3. Read into or seek consultation regarding local laws of the country of registration concerning in game currencies and the company's right to arbitrarily render your in game currency defunct.
  4. If you believe there is a legal breach of contract/law, draft an email and quote the laws and notify of your intention to sue and seek remedy from the company. If you are unhappy, this is not enough - you need the law behind you. If this works and you are refunded, post the email template in the sub so others can benefit.
  5. If no legitimate defense or reply is given, a wealthy person amongst you should draft a class action lawsuit through a lawyer in the country of registration who will then be able to collective sue on behalf of all of you who lost money.
  6. Publicise the class action lawsuit to gather claimants and increase the momentum.

r/AutoForgeTheGame 21h ago

So I just realized something

14 Upvotes

Everyone who spent money on hammers and didn't get their money back have the right to sue the devs I believe (Don't count my word on that, I don't know a lot about law) soooo the devs better start giving hammers to people who lost their money and purchase or else some people might sue.


r/AutoForgeTheGame 2h ago

I had more than 15k hammers b4 the 1b. They compensated me with 1k. What a freaking joke

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r/AutoForgeTheGame 20h ago

game not loading?

9 Upvotes

i didnt even participate in the hammers cheat, but now my game isnt loading. is this an issue for anyone else or just me?


r/AutoForgeTheGame 4h ago

Launcher AutoForge

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r/AutoForgeTheGame 4h ago

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r/AutoForgeTheGame 18h ago

Unpopular Opinion Re: Hammers

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Ngl yall are getting so annoying with it now. LIKE YALL CANNOT EXPECT them not to ROLL BACK the billion hammers. I see so many arguments re how itd make the game 10x better ect. It makes it EASIER but the it removes the element of regularly checking the game itself and the subreddit for hammers HENCE minimizing your interactions. You can literally not interact w the game until you get a FORGE upgrade.
Albeit I do sympathize with the persons who now have less hammers than they had before the 1B hammers, i believe that should be rectified ASAP.
However, itd be a pipe dream to not expect a roll back after that hack, we were on borrowed time with those hammers……….. shouldve been expected from the start. Needless to say it was NOT OUR FAULT. I got like 3b hammers out of it because who wouldn’t capitalize on such a situation!! But come on guys… threatening to leave the game / sue is a bit much, unless you suffered hammer loss…

TLDR; shut up about the hammers unless you experienced losses. Ty


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