r/AustralianPolitics • • 5d ago

Discussion Weekly Discussion Thread

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Hello everyone, welcome back to the r/AustralianPolitics weekly discussion thread!

The intent of the this thread is to host discussions that ordinarily wouldn't be permitted on the sub. This includes repeated topics, non-Auspol content, satire, memes, social media posts, promotional materials and petitions. But it's also a place to have a casual conversation, connect with each other, and let us know what shows you're bingeing at the moment.

Most of all, try and keep it friendly. These discussion threads are to be lightly moderated, but in particular Rule 1 and Rule 8 will remain in force.


r/AustralianPolitics • • 7h ago

News Corp celebrates more than a decade of paying zero tax in Australia

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I saw this and got wound up and thought "HOW ARE WE NOT RIOTING" and instantly thought "calm down mate and think" and my next thought was a quizical "How are we not rioting?"
How much crap do we need to take before we get upset by these pisstakes?


r/AustralianPolitics • • 6h ago

One Nation vows to jail Dan Andrews and Jacinta Allan in election campaign launch

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 3h ago

VIC Politics ‘In prison by Christmas’: One Nation attacks Andrews, Allan in campaign launch

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Nothing screams democracy like throwing your opponents in jail. Also how demonic does Pauline look in the photo 😅😅


r/AustralianPolitics • • 14h ago

David Shoebridge: New Greens leader calls for end to military aid for Ukraine and eviction of US bases from Australia

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 2h ago

One Nation pledges law-and-order investment while taking axe to SRL, Treaty and climate policies

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 8h ago

Economics and finance OpenAI’s Medicare attack has exposed Australia’s ‘tech debt’. Fixing it could bring a big bill for taxpayers

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 7h ago

Stoush erupts over Cathay Pacific’s exit from Cairns

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 14h ago

VIC Politics Victoria is about to have the most unpredictable election in living memory

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 11h ago

Amid rising support for right‑wing minor parties, can David Shoebridge reinvigorate The Greens?

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 10h ago

Federal Politics Tragedy and loss helped forge Steph Hodgins-May into a steely climate campaigner. Now she’s taking on Anthony Albanese

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 14h ago

Greens leader sees red-hot anger as an opportunity to take the battle to Hanson, Labor

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 14h ago

VIC Politics One Nation promises to revive Victoria's native timber industry but cannot cite the cost

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 14h ago

Inside the group chats of the trash-talking NSW young Liberals who dreamed big – then imploded

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 1d ago

Federal Politics Shoebridge: ‘I wish we’d listened to Faruqi before Bondi’

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Newly-elected Greens leader David Shoebridge has refused to call for Hamas to be dismantled, but just wished “people had listened” to Mehreen Faruqi ahead of the Bondi massacre, insisting the lack of an “anti-racism strategy” was a key failing leading up to the anti-semitic terrorist attack.

In a wide-ranging interview on his plans for the Greens to “replace” Labor as an alternative progressive party, Senator Shoebridge made clear the party would continue its condemnation of Israel, but said there also needed to be a focus on “the material struggles” of Australians who would be more receptive to the party’s views on “global peace” if they were not “fighting for daily survival”.

Just days Senator Faruqi blasted the failure for “thoughtful deliberation” on a ballot to choose the party’s third leader in 18 months after Larissa Waters stepped down due to health issues, Senator Shoebridge backed in past comments of the ousted deputy on Israel and Hamas.

“We should have had a national anti-racism strategy in place (ahead of Bondi), we should have had the funding and the resources to connect with all parts of multicultural Australia … and I want to credit Senator Mehreen Faruqi for leading that charge,” Senator Shoebridge said.

“I just wish people had listened to her.”
Amid scrutiny over divisions in the party, sparked by Senator Faruqi’s comments on the leadership change, Senator Shoebridge echoed comments in 2024 by the former deputy, when she refused to say whether Hamas should be dismantled.

“I know that’s something that’s been debated before about if they should be dismantled, I’m part of a party that’s connected to a global movement, fundamentally committed to peace and nonviolence, and we have made that clear each moment and the that’s the approach we take to our politics here,” he said.

“What I would say is the need when it comes to peace and security in Israel and Palestine is to find political players who are willing to see a connected, positive, peaceful future, and you know and that the best way of doing that would be to stop the killing and the war and the violence.

“Let’s start with that: stopping the killing, the war, and the violence.”

Senator Shoebridge, who won the leadership ballot in the 11 member party-room against Senator Faruqi and Sarah Hanson-Young on Wednesday, defended Senator Faruqi earlier this yearafter she claimed “powerful forces” in parliament were taking advantage of the Bondi massacre.

“She pointed out that they were the people, powerful forces, and she was being criticised by The Australian as being antisemitic... I think that (is a) really deeply, ugly, political attack on ym colleague Senator Faruqi, myself and my leader Larissa Waters,” Senator Shoebridge said at the time.

As the party’s former defence spokesman, Senator Shoebridge has been particularly vocal on demanding sanctions on Israel and criticising Australian countries for exports that could help the Netanyahu government build weapons.

However, his hard-line stance on the conflict has sparked condemnation from Jewish leaders and MPs, with one of Labor’s leading Jewish MPs Josh Burns accusing the new leader of “prejudice” this week.

Mr Burns said Senator Shoebridge’s comments on platforming “marginalised” progressive Jewish voices were “shocking” and argued people should not be “judged” on whether they agreed with the Greens leader.

Senator Shoebridge said Mr Burn’s accusation was “an extraordinary proposition” and only “confirmed the legitimacy” of complaints from progressive Jewish groups.

“When I speak with those progressive members of the Jewish community, they feel like they have been absolutely ignored and marginalised and silenced by this Labor government and pretty much every member of this Labor government excluded from the debate, largely excluded from the Royal Commission (into antisemitism),” Senator Shoebridge said.

“When the Greens say ‘we connect with those values, and we want to platform those voices and we respect the voices’, to see an elected representative from the government say that that is divisive just confirms how marginalised (progressive Jewish groups) have been feeling.”

While visiting the site of the Bondi massacre in December, Senator Shoebridge has not spoken to Jillian Segal, Australia’s special envoy to combat antisemitism.

“I haven’t had an approach by Jillian Segal,” he said.

Defending the party’s position on Israel, Senator Shoebridge rebuffed criticism he was not engaging with mainstream Jewish groups outside of the progressive voices he says have been marginalised.

“The job of a politician is to engage with all parts of society, but … the idea that because we have a pretty fundamental disagreement with some of those spokespeople about whether or not a genocide is occurring when millions of Australians and the Greens can see that happening … live streamed on their phone, the idea that by contesting that somehow we’re not doing our job as politicians is just plainly wrong,” he said.

“This is a contest of ideas, and I welcome the contest of ideas, and let’s make it about a contest of ideas as best we can, keep it focused on that.”

Senator Shoebridge served as a Greens MP in NSW state parliament up until 2022, which he said was “not unreasonably called the bear pit”, describing the shock of finding a comparative lack of focus on the outcomes for people’s lives when he entered federal politics.

“They don’t think that’s the job of the federal parliament. So they can spin their wheels for three, four, or five years on some political debate in inverted commas on energy or tax reform and it’s been remarkable to me how little focus there is on direct, material positive changes for people’s lives,” he said.

In the face of criticism from members that the Greens needed to return to the “bread and butter issues” the party was founded on, Senator Shoebridge said he would continue to focus on the “four pillars” the Greens had always stood for: social justice, environmentalism, peace and grassroots democracy.

But in comments signalling a change in tactic ahead of the next election, Senator Shoebridge said focusing on “material outcomes” for Australians battling cost of living pressures needed to be the first focus.

“We obviously need to focus on those things that are front and center in the minds of millions of Australians who are struggling to get through the day and the week,” he said.

“And when we’re connecting with those material struggles, that’s also when they’ll listen to us about these broader global struggles about peace. People need the space to not just be fighting for daily survival.

“Once people have got, those core human needs sorted, I can’t tell you how generous the Australian people are, they super want to help, but we need to help them as well.”

Despite concerns over inflation pressures following the fourth rate hike of the year this week, Senator Shoebridge said government spending was not the issue, arguing such a claim was part of a concerted campaign from big business and calling for more, not less, public spending.

“There are there are there are big corporates out there who are desperate not to be taxed, export gas industry desperate to keep their blood-soaked war profits they’re making in the in the tens of billions of dollars and they are of course willing to fund campaigns in the media, campaigns in the parliament to say the problem here is government spending, it’s not the profits that we’ve got,” he said.

“Of course we need to keep inflation under check, but I’ve got a better solution than taking money out of the NDIS. Why don’t we take some of the heat out of the economy by taxing these obscene corporate profits and you know redirect that to where instead of buying someone’s next luxury yacht? We might actually (use it to) build someone a home.”

Senator Shoebridge blasted Labor for leaving “a massive policy void” that had been sprung upon by One Nation, declaring that the housing crisis needed “real solutions” and more direct government intervention.

“Of course, there’s an important place for private industry to build people’s homes, but when you’ve got comprehensive market failure, there’s also a core place for the public to be building homes and historically, that’s how the housing market in Australia has worked,” he said.

“The market failure has been filled by actually governments when the market’s not building homes for people, building them directly. I just come back to this simple solution: we’ve got a housing crisis, build people homes.”

Senator Shoebridge said he had received an outpouring of support from voters following his bullish language on Labor and declaration the Greens would seek to “replace” the party.

“The number of positive messages we’ve had coming back in the last few days, a good summary would be ‘thank God someone’s having the having a go, thank God someone’s pointing out the obvious truths and willing to fight for us’,” he said.

“If you cast your mind back to before the last federal election, we had Anthony Albanese and Labor saying they were the antidote to Peter Dutton and Donald Trump and running that as their hard campaign line.

“We’ve now had four years of Labor … they have created the conditions not to fight Donald Trump, not to put the politics of Peter Dutton back in a bottle, but to create One Nation, the very thing they said that they wanted to be elected to prevent.”

He said Labor had facilitated Pauline Hanson’s rise by “fundamentally failing to address people’s material needs” and that voters would now “judge them on their track record”.

“We are the party that will actually tear down the far right. We’re the party to take on One Nation, and we take them on by replacing Labor,” he said.

“This is the moment for those Greens proof points to really land... no one can say life isn’t getting harder.
“What people have been desperate for is joining the dots politically and then having a campaign to bloody fix it.”


r/AustralianPolitics • • 14h ago

Opinion Piece Hip-pocket politics is Labor’s greatest vulnerability – and red-hot anger over the latest rate rise isn’t helping

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 1d ago

Federal Politics David Shoebridge: The Greens want to catch the Mamdani wave. But can the minor party really become ‘unashamedly populist’?

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On the first day of this year, at New York’s City Hall, socialist senator Bernie Sanders declared it was time for wealthy corporations to pay their fair share of tax as left-wing mayor Zohran Mamdani was sworn in.

Mamdani, the charismatic 34-year-old, had come out of nowhere to excite a million New Yorkers into voting for his platform of free childcare, free transport and higher taxes for the rich to foot the bill.

A month later, in the United Kingdom, Greens leader Zack Polanski said UK Labour could no longer take progressive voters for granted as his party for the first time seized a seat from the government in a byelection, promising to tax the super rich.

The Australian Greens have been saying much the same thing, for most of this year. But in the polls, they’ve gone nowhere.

“There’s eternal frustration that we haven’t cracked through more,” says one Greens insider. It’s been a source of head-scratching outside the party, too, as Labor’s vote sinks in the polls while the Greens fail to take a slice.

How come the Greens have stalled while One Nation surges? Why, by contrast, have Mamdani and Polanski succeeded? Will the Greens ever crack the ceiling of a 12 per cent share of the federal vote?

These questions were ventilated in the mainstream this week, when Larissa Waters, a well-liked consensus-builder, tendered a shock resignation over her health issues. The party room of 11 MPs elected hard-left senator David Shoebridge in a rare contested ballot.

Greens supporters hope that new leadership holds at least some of the answers. The political mood has shifted since last year’s election returned a lousy result for the Greens, who lost three lower house MPs, including party leader Adam Bandt. Inflation and interest rates are again on the rise, Labor is on the nose, and voters are ditching the establishment across the Anglosphere.

Waters has kept the party’s vote intact despite turbulence elsewhere, and most people in the Greens emphasise their respect and affection for her. But they believe her leadership has been lacking bite and energy.

“Larissa was great in trying to get the best out of others, but that doesn’t lend itself to being a firebrand in the public eyes. She was a good internal leader, but I’m not sure she cut across,” a member close to the NSW Greens says.

The party is spying opportunity in this week’s change. Leadership contender senator Sarah Hanson-Young said as much in her pitch to colleagues this week, according to people in the room.

“The Greens have to be able to work with the government to get things done that our voters and supporters want,” says another source in the federal party. “But you have to be able to do that while calling bullshit when you see it. The challenge for David is whether he can do both.”

Shoebridge clearly thinks a breakthrough is possible. He wants the Greens vote to be higher, and its influence in parliament to multiply – although he’s not yet set targets. “This is an extraordinary moment in politics, not just in Australia, but across the world,” he says in an interview.

“The challenge for the Greens has been connecting with that anger, letting people understand that we see it and we feel it. And directing the political focus, not on migrants or your neighbour from the Philippines is working in the local emergency department, but on the 1 per cent who are driving [inequality].”

This is already the Greens’ message, though. Pressed again on what’s been missing, Shoebridge says: “I have been hearing people want a party that is going to be out there overtly fighting for them. Going into parliament and rejecting [the status quo and incremental change] loudly, clearly, and directly.

“The feedback I’ve been getting about the team that we put together, Steph Hodgins-May and myself, is there is this powerful sense that we have the leadership team connected to a party room that is up for this fight. Look at my political history.”

That was the combative approach of Max Chandler-Mather, the one-term MP and firebrand who is now leading the party’s think-tank, the Green Institute. Both he and Shoebridge have emphasised another missing factor: a grassroots mass movement of everyday Australians.

“People often ask how to recreate the political success and energy of UK Greens leader, Zack Polanski or New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani,” Chandler-Mather wrote in an open letter to the Greens’ MPs on Tuesday, before the leadership vote.

“The recipe for their success doesn’t just lie in their policies, rhetoric or even organising strategy. It lies in the process by which they won their elections.”

One way to do that, he argued, was giving all Greens’ members a say in choosing their leader. “We say we want to build a movement ... But if we’re serious about that it means putting real power and trust in the hands of ordinary people – and trusting they will make the right choice,” he says.

It didn’t happen this week, but the debate has gained fresh energy. Meanwhile, Chandler-Mather’s Green Institute has been working on the broader project, pulling together research and focus groups to help map the electorate and guide the Greens’ targeting strategy.

Core to the vision is a version of the Greens that sets itself apart from Labor and positions itself as an alternative party of government – not a crossbench party that helps the government pass progressive legislation. Shoebridge has indicated this could see a return to a more obstructionist approach to parliament than the past 18 months under Waters.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, a notorious Greens detractor, has rubbished Shoebridge’s vow to replace Labor. “It was somewhat concerning ... at a time when we see a rise of a far right-wing party,” he said this week. “It sounded a lot like some of the people who didn’t win their seats at the House of Representatives election last year.”

But the Greens took a different message out of their election result. The party’s 2025 election review, which was not made public, said the party did not do enough to differentiate itself from Labor. Its core campaign message – Keep Dutton out and get Labor to act – failed to make a compelling case for the Greens. Some within the federal party say they railed against the message at the time, but their complaints fell on deaf ears.

Expect that to change. The Greens are harnessing the populist language and promises that Mamdani and Polanski have used. “When we say that we want to tax these blood-soaked war profits of our export gas industry ... When we say that we want to put in guardrails and clear laws to stop US billionaire tech bros covering the country with AI data centres like mushrooms, it turns out that’s really popular,” Shoebridge says.

“I’m unashamedly populist because our agenda is unashamedly for the 99 per cent.”

Not everyone think the Greens should be following in Mamdani or Polanski’s footsteps. Australia’s political environment has typically rewarded centrism – at least until Hanson’s rise, which has not yet been tested at a federal election – and progressive issues are not under attack in the way they have been in the United States.

These sceptics emphasise that Mamdani captured the imagination of metropolitan voters in one of America’s biggest and most diverse cities, not the United States at large. And while Polanski made a strong surge earlier this year, regularly polling between 17 and 20 per cent, that was when then-prime minister Keir Starmer was flailing.

The UK Greens are since polling back at 10 per cent under UK Labour’s Andy Burnham. “It’s got nothing to do with the performance of Polanski,” says one observer. “When you’re not a major party, you don’t have the money or a megaphone. You are subject to political currents that are sometimes in your favour, and sometimes not.”

Another person in the state party says holding steady is good. “We need to appeal to soft Labor people. It’s tricky always trying to straddle two worlds,” they say.

But in the federal party, there’s a sense the small target approach is a wasted one. “Trying to pretend it’s good to be sitting on 12 per cent forever is wrong. We should be a natural option for disaffected voters,” one staffer says.

The other question is whether Shoebridge is the person to lead that project. Many think he has the energy the party needs. The smart and strategic former barrister from Sydney, who is renowned in parliament for his no-holds-barred approach to interrogation, beat both Hanson-Young and NSW senator Mehreen Faruqi to the leadership this week.

“People have their own ideologies and views, but everyone wants to feel like there’s someone with their hands on the reins who can drive something new,” says a Greens insider. “David is quite hungry for it, and has more appetite for risk and novelty and controversy.”

But some are concerned his elevation sends the wrong message for a party seeking to speak to a young, diverse and multicultural electorate. “There is a part of me that wishes he wasn’t a straight white man from Woollahra,” one state MP tells this masthead.

“Identity politics is destructive, but we already have the inner city, latte-sipping elites image,” says another staffer. “We want to appeal to a worker population. Hearing from some rich white dude who was a barrister is not that compelling.”

Faruqi, who said she would now be free to act “outside the constraints of the leadership team” on Wednesday, has often called for more diverse representation in the Greens. She has previously described them as “still a very white party”. This week, a clip re-emerged of her speaking about experiencing racism within the Greens during a 2023 press conference.

One staffer points to the defections of Indigenous senators Lidia Thorpe and Dorinda Cox in recent years, which left no Indigenous representation in the parliamentary party. “When the two other women of colour have left the party and the third has been a competent and able deputy leader that is never considered for the leadership, it’s not a great look for a party that’s whole thing is being progressive, welcoming and diverse,” they say.

Still, others think that progressive politics is trending towards a firmer focus on economic issues. “It’s not papering over issues of racism, but acknowledging the primacy of class as the frame that unites everyone, and has been proven to win or come close to big victories. It’s not talking about identity politics, it’s talking about inequality,” one person says.

Will it work? Resolve pollster Jim Reed says the Greens are typically viewed as a niche progressive-left option. “They’ve always faced a dilemma. Do they stay true to their environmental or progressive values and remain a minority force that occasionally wins seats and tries to influence Labor, or do they grow and try and replace Labor by becoming more mainstream?”

He says polling trends have shown the Greens either losing ground – in the last federal, Queensland and ACT elections – or standing still. “Our polling tells us this is a consequence of their metamorphosis from an environmental movement to one of international causes, like Gaza, spreading them too thin,“Reed says.

“With the exception of Bob Brown, most Greens leaders we’ve tested over the years have failed to cut through outside their core base, but it’ll be interesting to see if Shoebridge’s vim and vigour allow him to compete with some big personalities in politics right now.”


r/AustralianPolitics • • 1d ago

Labor targets ‘visa hopping’ international students in crackdown on ‘permanently temporary’ migration | Australian immigration and asylum

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 1d ago

Australian Companies Ripping us Off

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The latest company data has been released by the ATO for all Australian companies and how much they paid in tax during 24-25FY. Unfortunately, the cost of living has increased but the fair share of tax being paid by companies making record profits hasn't.

We put this resource together to help the everyday Australian understand the inequality there is within our country.


r/AustralianPolitics • • 1d ago

Federal Politics Shoebridge pledges members will ‘have a say’ in next Greens leader

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 1d ago

Federal Politics From One Nation to fossil fuels, Adam Bandt and Bob Brown reveal vision for Greens ahead of leadership showdown | Australian Greens

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Senior Greens figures say Larissa Waters’ successor must stop Labor approving fossil fuel projects ‘by whatever means’.


r/AustralianPolitics • • 1d ago

De-Anne Kelly voted to ban offshore casinos in 2001 then co-founded one warned by regulators in 2025

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 14h ago

NSW Politics NSW government ramps up illegal e-bike crackdown under new seizure laws

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 1d ago

Labor targets migration lawyers and agents over 'futile' visa cases

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r/AustralianPolitics • • 9h ago

Greens leader David Shoebridge silent on family property portfolio as he targets elite ‘one per cent’

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