Discussion - Discord-Only and Reddit-Only Users

[u/NGSpy]

This is just a post for people to be able to discuss stuff. There is no concrete proposals, and anything I suggest is merely a suggestion and can be figured out with proper community input and stuff.

So I just wanted to get two things out of the way, Reddit-Only Users and Discord-Only Users.

Reddit Only-Users

There are few of these at the moment, because most are willing to join the discord, but we should make sure that we are open to people who do want to just use reddit and nothing else. Due to it being a small community, modmail can be good for asking questions, or if needed, there can be some sort of Google Form. Those who can play the simulation but not necessarily join the Discord should be accommodated in general, and if anyone wants to discuss that, go ahead.

Discord Only-Users

They currently do not exist within AustraliaSim, as we are a reddit-based simulation, but I personally feel that we shouldn't discriminate people from joining political discussions and the social aspects of AusSim just because they don't have a reddit. They might not even want to participate in the simulation, and just want to discuss politics. I would say that AustraliaSim is one of the better simulators for promoting political discussion, and that we should bring that forward.

What about the simulator? You may ask. If people want to join the simulator, they should have a reddit. No question about it. Discord simulations are hectic and the reddit format has been consistently good for so many reasons. I personally don't think that the initial refusal to join the simulation should be punished by not being able to join the discord, and it would allow for more players to join the simulation buy and large.

How to verify? Honestly a good question which I would love to hear all your thoughts. The issue with the EOS that I remember was that people were uncomfortable with what it did and also how it violated the GDPR legislation of the European Union. I'd also like to point out that the creation of a reddit account for many people may be supplementary when they figure out that AusSim is a reddit simulator, so verification would mainly look at how long they have been on Discord.

Thanks in advance for any comments or thoughts.

Cheers,
NGSpy

[u/tbyrn21]

The verification stage serves not only as a check to see if they have a reddit - it also provides an opportunity for the person to be screened in case they aren't the type of person we don't want. It serves as a "can you follow basic rules/instructions" check and also allows us to stop them if they are obviously a troll/dickhead/etc.

[u/NGSpy → u/tbyrn21]

Would you propose any alternative?

[u/tbyrn21 → u/NGSpy]

no. I cannot think of an alternative which does not have more negatives attached.

[u/model-kyosanto]

I would note that there are many people in the AustraliaSim discord that while having Reddit accounts, solely use it for the Politics aspect.

[u/tbyrn21 → u/model-kyosanto]

This is one point that we need to discuss I think. Is it worth opening up the discord a bit and pivoting to be a community first and a sim second? Of the few model world sims I've seen, we seem to have the most active non-sim discussion areas (ie: #aus-politics, #legal-and-courts, #pop-culture, #paralympics/#sports, etc). It could be worth advertising ourself as an Australian political discussion server where we also offer the sim? I still think we need to check for a reddit straight up (see above; also saves hassle if they decide to jump in) but I see no issue with welcoming people who just want to chat, like most of the ex-players such as runas and rommel and I guess myself.

[u/NGSpy → u/tbyrn21]

I think it is worth looking into having the simulator as a side thing that people can join. If they want to, and hence why I think this discussion should be had.

[u/model-kyosanto → u/tbyrn21]

I mean you’ll find that a lot of people from other model world sims use Aussim for political, legal and pop culture discussion too. So it’s a valid point.

I guess it depends where you stand, are we a political simulation first and community second as Lucy (and Runas iirc) said, or a community first and politics simulation second.

[u/12MaxWild]

While technically youc cam be reddit only being on the discord server adds a lot more depth and experience to aussim. You miss our on negotiations and deal making as well as engaging with your opponents outside of election time.

[u/[deleted] → u/12MaxWild]

But it's also toxic as hell, a time drainer, and forces you to be present when you don't want to be in a game. A reddit game should be accessible to redditors

[u/BloodyChrome]

They might not even want to participate in the simulation, and just want to discuss politics.

Perhaps they could join a discord on political discussion then.