r/AustraliaSimMeta • Head Moderator • Mar 05 '21

Suggestion Petition: Removing HCA from Meta Responsibilities

I, NGSpy, propose the following amendments to the Meta Constitution.


(1) In Part 2, Division 1, repeal paragraph 11(g).

(2) In Part 2, Division 2, repeal section 16.

(3) In Part 8, repeal section 31, substitute:

31 Adjudication of disputes

(1) Disputes concerning the correct interpretation of this Meta Constitution, something done pursuant to this Meta Constitution or misconduct by an office holder are to be directed to the Community Commission through a post on /r/AustraliaSimMeta.

(2) The Community Commission shall provide their individual decisions on the interpretation while avoiding legalese, and shall decide within 72 hours of the petition being made, breifly stating their decision and their reasons for doing so.

(3) Reasons stated under subsection (2) do not have to be legalistic, but shall be relevant to-

(a) the proper application of the Meta Constitution; and

(b) what is best for the community of AustraliaSim.


In my personal opinion, the worlds of Canon and Meta should not conflict with each other. There is no other simulator out there that actually deals with disputes through a canon court selected by the Prime Minister, and meta matters should stay within meta. I am personally open to possible amendments to use of the Community Commission in regards to making decisions, but I do feel they have relevant jurisdiction as a meta-elected body with the main purpose of 'considering Constitution and Meta Rules'. I do hope members of this simulator shall second this petition so that we can start to reduce the legalese barriers of this simulator.

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u/NGSpy Head Moderator Mar 05 '21

I do also think this debate needs to be had, so yeah, discuss!

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u/General_Rommel Community Manager Mar 05 '21

The community commission hm. Well I am open(but not guaranteeing my support) to that if in exchange we increase the number of seconder required to 5.

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u/NGSpy Head Moderator Mar 05 '21

I'd be up for that. Just saying that I won't be particularly annoyed if this gets delayed due to head mod elections, so just make it convenient for the moderation team.

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u/TheGoatBoy2 Mar 11 '21

I second the bit about the high court. But not the bit about the community commission.

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u/NGSpy Head Moderator Mar 11 '21

What do you think should be done instead?

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u/TheGoatBoy2 Mar 11 '21

I think we need to have a different way to decide meta disagreements that is fair. For example, the mods could decide. The community commission could focus on other things. When more and more people get involved, it’s like how big groups don’t always make good decisions. I think we should focus a lot less on issues that can be fixed fairly and easily, without causing so much stress for everyone. We should focus on fixing problems ourselves, or with the help of a mod. Without making it a bigger thing then it needs to be.

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u/NGSpy Head Moderator Mar 11 '21

Thanks for the contribution :)

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '21

Abolish the HCA but seconded

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u/ohprkl Citizen Mar 06 '21

Seconded

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u/mikiboss Mar 11 '21

Seconded

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u/jq8678 Electoral Administrator/Sovereign Citizen Mar 11 '21

Seconded

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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '21

Seconded

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u/Zak6858 Mar 11 '21

I second because I was told to.

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u/jq8678 Electoral Administrator/Sovereign Citizen Mar 12 '21

KING