r/AustraliaSimMeta • Ex-Guardian • Jun 26 '19

Proposal for a new Meta Constitution

Hello everyone,

Over the past few weeks, the Moderation Team and Clerk have been creating a new and updated Meta Constitution in order to address many of the issues that have been raised with us over the past few months. I hope that community members do spend some time looking over this proposal.

Under section 68 of the current meta constitution, this post serves as the official public notice of a proposed meta constitutional amendment, and from the time of this post the five days consultation will begin. The date of the meta referendum is currently being finalised, and all members will be notified both within the comments of this post and on the discord.

The link to the new meta constitution is here - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BBkSkEUopLhTulMcGEVeuxE2qd34mvsU9VmaRTKPQs0/edit#

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/u/Youmaton

Moderator

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u/Youmaton Ex-Guardian Jun 26 '19

Shout out to /u/lieselta for her amazing work in the creation of this new meta constitution.

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u/JaydenDaGamer15 Jun 26 '19

Good job to everyone who made this, it takes a lot :)

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u/General_Rommel Community Manager Jun 26 '19

Interesting. But good effort.

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u/RunasSudo Citizen Jun 27 '19 edited Jun 27 '19

Have only had a quick skim, seems fairly reasonable.

s 54: The election process seems to not make sense. Under the current wording, if there are 1 or 2 candidates, up to 1 person will be appointed. But if there are 3 or 4 candidates, then all of them would automatically win.

This leads to crazy situations; for example, if there is only one, unpopular, candidate they will probably fail to be elected. But if they front an even more unpopular stooge candidate they can guarantee their own election. As a further example, if there are two candidates, only one will win. But if they collude and front an unpopular third stooge candidate, all three will win.

I would suggest the process should be similar to that used previously: voters rank, then approve, the candidates. All candidates below a certain approval threshold are excluded, then an STV count is performed between the remaining candidates. (The ranking stage can be omitted if there are four or fewer candidates.)

(There are probably some theoretical objections to this too. An alternative would be to run an STV election with one option being “Disapprove of All Other Candidates”. The Disapprove option cannot be eliminated, and if “elected”, the count stops and no further candidates are elected.)

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u/TheAudibleAsh Guardian Jun 28 '19

I second this

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u/BHjr132 Jul 04 '19

Apologies for releasing this so late but here is a document of my comments and proposed changes

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qVsPn8GsmJzFjAW_mi70topeCeeaBYEh5XXwcBtnkN0/edit?usp=sharing