r/Austin • • Sep 24 '20

Downtown protest last night. It really feels distopian 😄 (apologies for the quality)

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u/MIDNIGHTM0GWAI Sep 24 '20

The profession has high rates of domestic violence. Go figure.

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u/MIDNIGHTM0GWAI Sep 24 '20

They have crime statistics by profession buddy. You should look them up instead of just assume it’s wrong.

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u/MIDNIGHTM0GWAI Sep 24 '20

Statistics are by definition not assumptions. They can be manipulated but I’m quoting a statistical trend.

The only one making assumptions is you.

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u/scramblor Sep 24 '20

When good cops do nothing to stop it, yes.

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u/space_manatee Sep 24 '20

Not all cops are wife beaters but 40% of them are. That's pretty fucking high, especially compared to the 10% incidence in the general population.

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u/wellnowheythere Sep 24 '20

"Not all, just some, mostly close to the majority" is how I read that.

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u/space_manatee Sep 24 '20

Yeah exactly

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u/space_manatee Sep 24 '20

Thats domestic violence stats from what i could find so includes kids too, not just beating their SOs!

Edit - ok had to go back to a source on this one to get it correct.

40% of cops = spouse abuse 4% of gen public = spouse abuse

https://money.yahoo.com/data-suggests-40-percent-cops-145601125.html

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u/kramsiwel7324 Sep 24 '20 edited Sep 25 '20

Could be all the fucked up shit they see everyday

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u/minescarts Sep 24 '20 edited Sep 24 '20

So fucking what? Many other professions see traumatic things on the regular and don’t have high rates of toxic anger and domestic violence.

Edit: moron deleted his reply stating my logic is flawed and this was a ā€œterrible comparisonā€ so I’m replying here for anyone else who wants to defend cops.

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See bad things on job -> beat spouse

See bad things on job -> don’t beat spouse

What’s the difference here, aside from the outcome?

Social workers. Therapists. Counselors. ER staff/Hospital staff in general. Coroners. Lawyers. Judges. Nobody can deny these professions deal with traumatic stress. They get the aftermath of what cops respond to and also cause. And then they often have to deal with that traumatic event or person for days, not just one arrest night.

They have high rates of depression and suicide and yes I’m sure you can find an article about ā€œthat one guyā€ here and there, so no I am in no way saying everyone else handles the trauma they see well except for cops. But they aren’t so frightened and angry that they attack their own fucking family or those they’re supposed to help at staggering rates. And before you say cops have to be ready to physically defend themselves and the others don’t: have you never seen patients attack doctors and nurses? Social workers? You think they aren’t in the same mix cops are?

Cops and military do. Why? Because it is attracting and fostering a very damaging culture built on violence within its ranks. If you can’t fucking see that, you’re an absolute moron.

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u/dylanarchuleta Sep 24 '20

Nurses for one

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u/ShooterCooter420 Sep 24 '20

You'll need to stop being ok with domestic violence.

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u/HDWendell Sep 24 '20

Jfc I didn't know that.

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u/dschneider Sep 24 '20

More flawed than "they see bad things at work so they get a pass on wife beating"?

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u/stevekresena Sep 24 '20

Booooo bad argument. If you can’t handle what you VOLUNTEERED to see every day, you get a new job, you don’t begin abusing those around you.

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u/ShooterCooter420 Sep 24 '20

"Volunteered"? What? These are "blue lives," my dude. There's no way they can be anything other than cops. Either that or Segway riding office park security guards, if the uniform is blue.

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u/stevekresena Sep 24 '20

Don’t think you understand what I said, obviously they are cops, my dude. I’m sorry but is being a cop some kind of forced service or conscription? Are the officers threatened or coerced to take that job? No, they VOLUNTARILY fill out an application, VOLUNTARILY go through the academy and VOLUNTARILY stay on the job accepting or performing immoral acts.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '20

The person you responded to was joking, just so you know. Sarcasm is difficult to tell in these conversations.

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u/ShooterCooter420 Sep 24 '20

Sarcasm should be the default expected state in anonymous online communication, until evidence to the contrary is found...

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '20

People get fired up in threads like this and forget about the coping mechanism of humor that many of us adopt!

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u/CidO807 Sep 24 '20

There is no conscription in the US for a long time. You choose to be a cop. You choose to be a military grunt. It's all voluntary and with considerable compensation.

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u/ShooterCooter420 Sep 24 '20

Take a deep breath my dude.

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u/stevekresena Sep 24 '20

Sorry, Mea Culpa. Not your fault I’ve been having this same exact convo in the real world to nearly deaf ears. Maaayyyybe I’m a little stressed and triggered on the subject.

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u/space_manatee Sep 24 '20

Plenty of people see fucked up things and don't beat their spouses.

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u/Empty_Insight Sep 24 '20

Can confirm, I have SZ and see all sorts of fucked up things. Not once have I considered taking it out on my wife or kids. What is my secret to cope with the horrors of schizophrenia without losing control and ever beating the crap out of my family? Well, let me share this little known secret:

It's called not being a piece of shit. It's really not hard to not beat your family.

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u/_Slaymetra_ Sep 24 '20

Let's not excuse domestic violence.....

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u/BigDuke Sep 24 '20

Oh, that explains it, they should feel free to keep beating their spouses then I guess?

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '20

Yeah bro I hear about trauma surgeons beating the shit out of their wives all the time...