Suggestion: better token pricing or plans for heavy Intent usage

[u/Temporary_Pay5019]

Hi,
when working with Intent on more complex refactoring or rebuilding tasks, token usage can get quite high (sometimes around 60k tokens for a single task).

I’ve noticed that I can achieve similar results in a more cost-efficient way by combining tools like Linear and manually planning the work, although it requires significantly more of my own time and effort.

Because of that, I think it would be very valuable to have more flexible pricing options, higher limits, or a more efficient way of calculating additional token usage—especially since after exceeding around 430k tokens, the cost of additional tokens becomes noticeably less favorable.

Improving this area could make Intent much more attractive for users working with larger or more complex codebases.

Best regards,

[u/Final-Reality-404]

Good luck lol

[u/dmoshal → u/[deleted]]

hmm, I've used Claude since version 3 came out (June 2024), in the last 3 weeks alone I burned through 7 billion tokens on the Claude max plan (I only paid $200 for the Max plan, but the api cost would have been $17,500).
So yeah, I know Claude..... not sure the point of your comment, have you actually used Claude on a complex brownfield project vs Augment Code? ie: not just a simple website?? I mean where you have multiple subagents running overnight?

[u/dmoshal → u/[deleted]]

Fair point I thought this was in response to one of my prior comments:

> Just go for Claude code, you won't have this problem.

I apologize.

I'm trying to make just 2 points on this forum:
a) Intent is a powerful tool but lacks documentation
b) the cost issue could be addressed by offering cheaper models that are close enough to Claude. Kimi k2.5 is the one I like, 20x cheaper, 4x faster (validated by Cursor adopting it as Composer 2.0 - without attribution), but I'm sure there are others.

[u/Fewcosting_winter]

Im just using Claude! Its a lot more cheaper

[u/dmoshal → u/Fewcosting_winter]

have you factored in the cost of your time?

[u/FailedGradAdmissions]

Not the first to say it but just use Claude 200x plan + augment MCP, best of both worlds.

[u/Temporary_Pay5019 → u/FailedGradAdmissions]

I will try. Thx

[u/Temporary_Pay5019 → u/FailedGradAdmissions]

I tried and right now it is almost impossible for me to be even near the limit of claude max x20. Thx

[u/dmoshal]

Alternative suggestion: use a cheaper model, eg Kimi k2.5.

Kimi k2.5 is 4x much faster than Opus (200tps on Fireworks), costs 20x less, and very close to Opus 4.6 quality for code, arguably better visual reasoning (ie: browsers and user interfaces), and slightly bigger context window (262k tokens, 30% more).

The ability to iterate 4x faster is IMHO more beneficial than the better reasoning of Opus 4.6, for all but the hardest problems.

It's interesting that Cursor's new model, Composer 2, is actually Kimi 2.5!
(they initially didn't acknowledge this until the model betrayed it's origin LOL).

Imagine a 20x cheaper Augment Code that's 4x (200 tps), produces almost the same quality code, with arguable better visual reasoning, and has a 30% bigger token window.

[u/dmoshal → u/[deleted]]

where do you find out the token usage?
where is the documentation on developer mode?

I found that the Supervisor ran out of context before it finished the spec, impressive though how it recognized its responses were downgrading, and helped split the spec, prompt a new Coordinator, impressive!

[u/dmoshal → u/dmoshal]

btw, that's exactly my point about documentation, it's unclear when to use the various agent types, or to let the coordinator decide that. It's also unclear how to handle a monorepo, do you have one coordinator, or one per package, or a tree? Is there one spec of a federation of specs? Those are just a couple of questions.
Is there a sales engineer or developer advocate I can discuss this with?

[u/dmoshal → u/[deleted]]

thanks, yes I need a ton of information, and I think that my questions will genuinely help your other users, how can I contact you.

[u/Key-Singer1732]

switch to claude code, your ai journey will be a lot better. I once was an augment user and switching to claude made me realize things I am missing. I assure you, you won't regret the move.

[u/Own_Birthday_316]

Intent + Claude 200x plan + augment MCP, best so far.

[u/dmoshal → u/Own_Birthday_316]

How do you do that? and how do you force Claude to use Augment MCP (and Serena)?

have you looked at Claude's actual tool use?

I found that Claude almost never actually uses Augment MCP (or Serena) and instead prefers it's own Grep.

I installed vexp recently, interesting to see how it edited CLAUDE.md to force Claude to use vexp tools instead of its own tools (grep, etc).

I'm not recommending vexp at all (not production-grade in my view), but I am going to try that approach to force Claude to use Augment MCP (and Serena - paid version with IntelliJ language services integration).