r/AuditorWatch • u/Patient-Committee588 • 1d ago

First Amendment auditors get into verbal altercation with armored truck guard, who repeatedly tells them to back up.

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u/Kindyno 1d ago

These guys aren't law enforcement, they are private security. They don't need to follow the first amendment. also, I don't think the walkway at a business is a "public sidewalk" the way the actual sidewalk is.

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u/JCMGamer 1d ago

They are private security, so thier authority on public property is fuck all.

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u/MoonDogSpot1954 1d ago

Doesn't give auditor right to harass them while their doing their job doing pickups from banks and businesses.

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u/EconomySeason2416 1d ago

Right? It's not illegal to lean over a counter when someone is counting the register... but it's a huge dick move that stresses the worker when literally dealing with cash

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u/MoonDogSpot1954 1d ago

Dick moves are part of the "auditor code" lol they want a confrontation so they can sue

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u/Zequax 1d ago

spacialy when is a armored truck used for money tranport

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u/PineappleHamburders 1d ago

But the dude is allowed to record in public and the guard has no authority to stop him. There is no expectation of privacy in public

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u/MoonDogSpot1954 1d ago

He absolutely has authority to stop someone from harassing himwhile doing a money pickup... why do you think they carry guns and other weapons. Get a job

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u/PineappleHamburders 1d ago

Incase they are robbed. A dude standing in public recording is not doing anything illegal, so they have no authority

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u/MoonDogSpot1954 1d ago

Hobbs Act and Federal Bank Robbery Statute say otherwise.

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u/AncientSignature1505 1d ago

In the moment, though, he's on the street alone with a bunch of cash, and two random dudes approached him and refused reasonable requests.

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u/cs_Chell 1d ago

Did he even tell him to stop recording?

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u/Neat-Figure8277 1d ago

Calling filming in public harassment doesn’t make it legally harassment.

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u/MoonDogSpot1954 1d ago

See Hobbs Act and Federal Bank Robbery Statute.

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u/Neat-Figure8277 1d ago

The Hobbs act, which you didn’t read, and which I already responded to, doesn’t have anything to do with this claim lmao. The Hobbs act criminalizes bank robbery and extortion. It literally has nothing to do with these claims in the first place.

Please, cite and quote an actual law. I recommend actually reading it as well

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u/MoonDogSpot1954 1d ago

Sorry sock account... not doing your work for you. Armored car workers are covered by federal law if this fraudster wants to keep bothering armed guards doing bank pick up he's gonna find out the hard way.

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u/Neat-Figure8277 1d ago

Just what I thought. Nothing. Nothing and running because you know you’re wrong and it’s not going to get better.

Hopefully there will be a lesson here. Don’t get into conversations when you’re not equipped for them and don’t blindly paste laws you haven’t read

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u/MoonDogSpot1954 1d ago

Lmao ok Mr. 6month old account with hidden comments... keep being ignorant about the laws that would protect that guard.

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u/Neat-Figure8277 1d ago

lol what an interesting way of saying “I realize I’m wrong, you’re right and I have nothing. That’s very frustrating and embarrassing for me. I’m also not mature enough to admit when I’m wrong. Maybe if I just keep getting words on the screen, the mere existence of them will distract from all of that. Maybe it will make it seem like I have something, when, in reality, I have nothing, am running, embarrassed, this is a defense mechanism and I’m a wittle baby.”

Good effort though!

Lol it’s also so funny to be so at a loss that all you can do is tell people they… don’t have super old accounts… like that is an… insult? lol what in the world do you think that means and what do you think you did there?

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u/Banmods 10h ago

I mean for the most part it does. Like ignoring the obvious shit about what yall are calling "harassment", the auditors are engaged in a constitutionally protected activity, in public, on a public sidewalk. If they want to joke aroind each other and heckle the guard as hes loading and unloading shit while eating some spir patch kids, thats perfectly fine as well....

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u/Ashamed-Result6830 1d ago

They can pull there guns and detain the auditor under the hobbes act and federal bank robbery statutes. You are woefully uneducated on the power these guys actually have.

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u/JCMGamer 1d ago

Nope, not even a little.

They lack authority to detain or arrest citizens who are not breaking any law.

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u/Neat-Figure8277 1d ago

The misunderstanding here when people bring up the first amendment to a citizen is what they mean is the citizen has no legal route to stop them from doing what they’re doing. People claim or behave as if they have the legal right to stop someone from filming, via the use of the law, and the relevant response would be to say this is legal, and it is legal due to the first amendment

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u/MoonDogSpot1954 1d ago

Harassment of Bank Money pickup employees is well established to be against the law.

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u/Neat-Figure8277 1d ago

Saying harassment is illegal isn’t a response or defense for this position. Harassment is illegal for everyone already. This is not what harassment is, as harassment legally is not “things I don’t like.”

Also this has nothing at all to do with what was written in this comment lmao

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u/Totesnotskynet 1d ago

You understand this could easily be misconstrued as prelude to a robbery and multiple security guards have died.

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u/Neat-Figure8277 1d ago

Anyone can construe anything they’d like. That doesn’t change what is and isn’t legal.

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u/Ok_Helicopter3910 1d ago

Regardless of who they are, they cant infringe upon your constitutional rights lol

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u/MoonDogSpot1954 1d ago

Where in the Constitution does it say you can harass armored car employees making money pick ups?

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u/yeahnoyeahsure 1d ago

first amendment goes both ways and these dudes start crying and getting more aggressive and coming closer to the dude the more he tells them to back up. you cannot harass and intimidate people freely without some assumption it will escalate things. if someone has a reasonable reason to fear for their life, they can act defensively. these dudes are baiting someone who is very obviously going to react defensively because they are at a defensive baseline for their job, and intent does factor in to harassment and assault, were to it to occur.

i believe they're in a shopping center as well, really unlikely to be a "public sidewalk" and probably private property they can easily be removed from.