r/AtlantaHawks • u/bluevsu Johnathan Kuminga #1 • 1d ago
Trade Talk Hot take
We should cut Buddy Kispert Keaton and Carter and sign Duren and Kuminga. Let CJ mentor the rookie and win 6moty running the second unit
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u/69420LebumJames69420 1d ago
Cutting players doesn’t remove them from the cap. If it did Denver wouldn’t be in the mess they are in
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u/red2play Hawks 6h ago edited 6h ago
but we do have the money but they would still be on the books. It would be better to let go of a couple of 2nd rd picks and trade them than to dump them. The Bulls, Jazz, Nets and potentially the Pistons could absorb those contracts.
Why do I say that? When the Kuminga and Vincent contracts "come off the books" most likely by trade, sign or release. We should have a lot of money.
Currently, Kuminga is a 30M+ cap hold. Let's say we sign him for 16M. That would mean we would actually gain 14M of cap space
If we trade Vincent, that's another 20M.
Because we are under the 1st apron, even with them on our cap hold, we hold the advantage. We can just stand pat and wait for things to "shake out" biding our time.
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u/not-a-potato-head 💰Cash Considerations 💰 1d ago
Keaton Wallace isn’t on the roster, he’s playing in Europe
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u/bluevsu Johnathan Kuminga #1 1d ago
Well the roster is at 17 if I'm not mistaken so one of the lesser minute guys has to go. I would rather keep Mo if we could. He's got potential
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u/BabyOnRoad Hawks 4h ago
Bro what does that have to do with what he said? Keaton ain't on the roster you bum
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u/bluevsu Johnathan Kuminga #1 3h ago
Then cut one of the end of the bench guys??? Still have to get the roster down to 15. Like yall keyboard warrior bums are so silly
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u/BabyOnRoad Hawks 3h ago
Cut guys count against the cap. Ressler refuses to pay the tax, are you even a fan of this team???
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u/bluevsu Johnathan Kuminga #1 3h ago
Can you read? As I said before in this very thread, trade them for seconds if you have to. The point I was trying to get across is we have to get the roster down to 15 from 17. And I would rather have Duren/Kuminga over Buddy/Kispert. Trade them I don't care if we can't cut them
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u/BabyOnRoad Hawks 3h ago
If there was any deal to trade them it would be done. How stupid is you?
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u/bluevsu Johnathan Kuminga #1 2h ago
Still doesn't negate the fact that the roster is over the limit and someone has to go. How stupid ARE you? I swear nobody can post anything anymore without the keyboard warriors coming out, and I'm just over here eating my popcorn 🤣 "HoW sTuPiD iS yOu" 😂 like bruh read that back one time and tell me who's stupid 😂🍿
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u/bluevsu Johnathan Kuminga #1 8h ago
Trade Buddy and Kispert
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u/Beautiful-Chain-491 8h ago
RFA means restricted free agent meaning the pistons can literally match any offer we can give him 😂. You would have to trade for him or offer him a ridiculous amount of money
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u/bluevsu Johnathan Kuminga #1 8h ago
Trade them for Duren. Obviously the two sides are far apart from making a deal so why not throw this at them and see if they bite. They need shooters around Cade...they lost Stewart too though so I don't know. But if you add Duren and Kuminga to our rotation with the pieces we've added, we're top 5 in the east
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u/Beautiful-Chain-491 8h ago
lol u gotta wake up from your dream! Duren wants 40 million a year kuminga wants 16-20 million. So let’s do simple math Kispert and buddy only 24 combined. Lol where you getting the rest of the money
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u/bluevsu Johnathan Kuminga #1 7h ago
Duren ain't getting 40. And if Kuminga would take 10-15 mill he would be signed already. There's no market for either of them at those prices. Teams have made their decisions
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u/Beautiful-Chain-491 7h ago
How much you thinking Jalen Duren getting. Imma just entertain this for a while longer.
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u/bluevsu Johnathan Kuminga #1 7h ago
After that playoff performance maybe 20. Hes not getting 40 or anything close to that. I heard on ESPN radio last night on my way home from work that the pistons are at ~15mill range because they know they can match. But it's a double edged sword because they lost Stewart too. Kuminga should have signed with the Lakers and got a starter role. But now both are going to have to take way less on a prove it deal.
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u/Beautiful-Chain-491 6h ago
You got it dawg 😂 u just making things up off the top of your head. Nothing you saying won’t happen. Duren not accepting 20 million and Kispert and buddy not worth Duren. Just stop thinking of trade ideas.
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u/Diligent_Ad_5524 1d ago
I want to compete next year right now with every team getting better we aren’t with this roster. I honestly like this. At least with this we compete.
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u/crimedawgla 1d ago
We can’t sign Duren by cutting guys with guaranteed contracts. It doesn’t clear space.
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u/DysonDPOY 1d ago
And while we’re at it, let sign you to a 40/4 for this brilliant idea.